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Why do people dis Hayden Christensen?

Discussion in 'Archive: Attack of the Clones' started by JediJenSkywalker, Oct 25, 2002.

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  1. SithLord127

    SithLord127 Jedi Youngling star 2

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    Sorry, I don't fall into the Hayden Christensen fan club, I thought his dialogue was horrible, and wasn't natural at all. I understand Lucas wanted to get someone who wasn't famous for the part but geez. He better improve his skills before Episode III when it counts the most.

    Ok this next part isn't really Hayden's fault but why did they write Anakin who is supposed to be 19 or 20 in AOTC but act like a spoiled little 12 year old? The writers could have written the character better, I mean I love the movie but when I think that this guy is going to be the most menacing villain of all time? I just don't buy it. I never saw Vader to be a spoiled little brat as a kid, I mean the arrogant part makes sense but he just does this little "pouty face" throughout the whole damn movie that reminds me of my 2 year old cousin when he doesn't get his way. It's more irritating then Elijah Wood's lame "big blue wide eyes" in every single shot of Fellowship of The Ring.
     
  2. SithLord127

    SithLord127 Jedi Youngling star 2

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    Oh and Hayden Christensen being "hot" has no relevancy at all, that has nothing to do with it. You can't be "Why doesn't anyone like him? He's real hot". There is no arguement in that statement.
     
  3. hoth-nudist

    hoth-nudist Jedi Youngling star 3

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    I agree with some of what sithlord has to say. Hayden does not look intimidating or act intimidating at all. Not to say lucasfilm couldnt make him intimidating. I think thats what was missing. GL's rotten dialogue messed it up big time for hayden. He's obviously a future talent.
     
  4. Darth-Clossinius

    Darth-Clossinius Jedi Youngling star 1

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    Well, I for one think Hayden was the absolute best choice to play Anakin Skywalker as a Teen/Early 20s.

    Lets look at some of the other choices:

    Leo DiCaprio - I would have never become the SW fan I am if this man would have got the role. I would have chucked my toys and videos right out the window. He is a pop culture icon and he has no place in the SW saga. He is not the type nor does he even look like I would picture Ani as an older boy..


    Ryan Phillipe (sp?) - He MAY have been OK, but from the movies I have seen him in, he appears to be more of a "Sensual Demon" type role, rather than a Troubled and Misfit Jedi Knight...Let him stay in the teen flicks and other movies he is destined for...

    Hayden Christensen - He hits the spot. He looks like an aged Jake Lloyd, and a young Sebastian Shaw...if you don't believe me, just look for yourself, its all about the eyes...He was relativly unknown up until AOTC. His acting skills aginst bluescreen/digital characters is superb because he has a history in theater, which is more or less an active imagination. The only thing i found bad about Anakin was some of his dialogue..but that was not his fault, it was Lucas'.

    Many men/boys hate the ACTOR because he got to kiss Natalie (oh woop dee doo) and because their girlfriends/wives think he is hot.

    I have no doubt that had the internet been around like this back in the 70's and 80's, people would be saying the same about Mark Hamil, Harrison Ford, and good old Billy Dee.

    Now with that said, I am going to say that I am a huge fan of Hayden in this role. I think it is because of him that I love SW so. He is the perfect choice to lead the Innocent Anakin into the Deadly Darth Vader...there is no doubt about that...

    and I totally agree w/those of you who think he is hot ;)
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  5. anakin_girl

    anakin_girl Jedi Knight star 6

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    SithLord:

    I agree with you that Hayden's looks have absolutely nothing to do with anything--in fact, while I enjoy looking at him myself, even I get irritated when people use his looks as an argument for why people should like him. For one thing, using that argument makes him seem like a piece of meat, not a real actor; it keeps him from being taken seriously. Also, beauty is subjective.

    However,

    I understand Lucas wanted to get someone who wasn't famous for the part but geez. He better improve his skills before Episode III when it counts the most.

    There was absolutely nothing wrong with his skills. He was nominated for a Golden Globe and won an award for Best Upcoming Actor (not sure if that's exactly what it's called) for Life as a House, and he won an award at the Cannes Film Festival for AOTC. (I'm horrible with the names of awards, but I have a picture of him with each of these.) Supposedly, Lucas picked out Hayden for Anakin with Episode III in mind, and if you watch the angry eyes during the scene right after Shmi is killed, you can see it.

    As Anakin is my favorite character, when I initially found out Hayden was going to play him, I watched an episode of Higher Ground just to see who he was and to judge his acting skills for myself. I had no intention of watching more than one episode, but I was in awe of Hayden's sheer raw talent. I fully understood why Hayden was a star in his performing arts high school's very competitive drama program and why several teachers at that school referred to him as "the next James Dean". I now own all 22 episodes of that show. Hayden's skill has only developed further since then, and if you want to see an example of pure acting talent without the influence of stiff Star Wars dialogue, rent Life as a House. Irwin Winkler allows his actors a little more latitude to explore and develop their characters.
     
  6. sdj

    sdj Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Star Wars is not the best platform to start an acting career. If people didn't already know Ewan McGreggor he would be getting dissed too.
     
  7. JediJenSkywalker

    JediJenSkywalker Jedi Youngling star 1

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    I couldn't agree with you guys more! I especially love those pictures of Hayden!;) Infact I'm listening to the Episode 2 Soundtrack right now! This is so cool I never knew so many people liked Hayden! :)!
     
  8. SexyStarWarschic

    SexyStarWarschic Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Because they are mean and evil he is so fine! And you people are right they're just jealous of him because he is so hot! :D! I'm listening to the Imperial March! I love that song! [face_blush]!
     
  9. SexyStarWarschic

    SexyStarWarschic Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Yea really there dising Ewan now too! Hayden's looks don't matter but it does have a big impact on his popularty my friend claims she met him I don't believe her! :D
     
  10. MaraJade55

    MaraJade55 Jedi Youngling star 1

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    Oh please!~ Orlando Bloom is so much hotter! (Rebel Scum!) 8-} I'm just kidding I think Hayden is hot too! I mean who wouldn't? But I'm just a little mad that he turns into Darth Vader and like kinda takes Mara Jade's place as the Emperor's Hand.
     
  11. orbiter

    orbiter Jedi Youngling star 1

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    Hayden.... Mmmh, i think he sucked, but not because he were a bad peformer. He had lousy lines and a so-so script. Almost every actor would have had a very bad time trying to express some feelings that aren't easy to explain without a narrator.

    We all agree that the Tusken scene could have been done a lot better, it should have been done a lot better, since it is a turning point in Anakin's life. That would have been the best chance for Hayden to show us his acting skills. That scene is incomplete, we need to see not gore or guts on screen but a huge display of rage. When he finishes with it, he could allow himself to cry. And then you could go to the Yoda/Windu scene. What Anakin does in that moment is supposed to be horrible, at first we can empathize with him when he kills 2 or 3 guys, but if he continues 10, 20 or 30, we will start to feel nauseous. And that's exactly how Anakin's supposed to feel at that moment ! There are many ways to do that scene without exceeding the PG-13 rules. It's not necessary to show him killing the women and children. He can add that part later when he speaks with Padme. Then, we would really feel nauseous and confused.

    How was it done in AOTC is like having a nice session of sex and receiving a phone call just before finishing. >:) it's rather frustrating. We paid to see Anakin going to the dark side. We didn't pay to see him talking about how he went to the Dark Side.

    About Jake Lloyd: well, there are better and there had been better actors, but it seems that Lucas prefers to spend more money on SFX than on actors. And we can understand that. Having DiCaprio in AOTC could have been good (i hate DiCaprio, but at least he is a good actor), but it would have costed 50 ? 60 ? 70 million dollars ? I don't know, but that would have made AOTC impossible to finish.

    But why i really, really, really hate Jake Lloyd ? One word: "YEEEEPEEEEEEEEE !!!!!"

    :)

    About Mark Hamill... He IS Luke Skywalker. No one else could have done it better. Some people complain about him being a whiner, but that's the sound engineer's fault :)
     
  12. MobartZmuda

    MobartZmuda Jedi Padawan star 4

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    "We all agree that the Tusken scene could have been done a lot better, it should have been done a lot better, since it is a turning point in Anakin's life"

    Dammit, I didn't get the memo. When was the meeting, last Friday?

    "Hayden.... Mmmh, i think he sucked, but not because he were a bad peformer. He had lousy lines and a so-so script"

    So that makes Hayden suck because ...

    If you don't think he's a bad performer and you blame his "suck-titude" on lousy lines and a so-so script, why are you even blaming Hayden? He didn't write the lines--you are blaming the wrong person.
     
  13. MaraJade55

    MaraJade55 Jedi Youngling star 1

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    Yea really.. I couldn't agree with you more. I think he is jealous 8-} It's mean people like him that give Hayden a bad name dameit! :mad:
     
  14. BlueMules

    BlueMules Jedi Youngling star 3

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    Where is Son of Jar Jar? He is one of the most critical of Hayden's performance :D
     
  15. ST-TPM-ASF-TNE

    ST-TPM-ASF-TNE Moderator Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Perhaps one day I'll have the honor of arguing with him :D
     
  16. anakin_girl

    anakin_girl Jedi Knight star 6

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    We paid to see Anakin going to the dark side. We didn't pay to see him talking about how he went to the Dark Side.

    Ummm...you did. I didn't. I paid money to see Anakin the good guy lose his temper, do something wrong, and regret it later--and that is what I saw. Some people seem to forget--he ain't Darth Vader yet.

    You may say you didn't want blood and guts in the Tusken scene, but the way you describe it--preferring to see Anakin kill 20-30 Tuskens as opposed to the two or three we saw him kill--requires blood and guts, or at least a very lengthy murder scene, which I don't know how that could be done without blood and guts.

    The way the Tusken scene was done was perfect. Watching Hayden's eyes during that scene, I could literally feel Anakin's rage. It takes an immensely talented actor to have that effect on me.

    i hate DiCaprio, but at least he is a good actor

    Not anywhere near as good as Hayden. Did DiCaprio get nominated for a Golden Globe for his first major film? Was DiCaprio winning SAG and Young Hollywood awards, as well as awards at the Cannes Film Festival, when he was 21? I don't think so. (Although I haven't kept up with DiCaprio so I could be wrong on some of this, but I wouldn't post here if I wasn't fairly certain.)

    And you hate Jake Lloyd because of "Yippee"? Geez. There's nothing wrong with a nine-year-old saying "Yippee". And by the way--even if there were something wrong with it, Jake, like Hayden, did not write his lines.
     
  17. Darkwish

    Darkwish Jedi Padawan star 4

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    I think Hayden was great in the role. I only wished George had given him better dialouge.


     
  18. JediRuler

    JediRuler Jedi Youngling star 2

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    People who hate Hayden are just..to be polite.......DIFFERENT.
     
  19. MaraJade55

    MaraJade55 Jedi Youngling star 1

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    I just got done watching Lord of the Rings on DVD! :) Legolas is so hot! [face_love] You know what I think the people who are saying all this [censored](excuse my languge) about Hayden aren't realizing the fact that he just seemed like he wasn't acting very well because yea the dialoge did suck and like I said before and like some other people said they're just jealous and I think when we all get off the internet we should tell those ahnoying Hayden haters that they are just jealous and the only reason why he didn't act very well was because the dialoge sucked! And plus have any of you guys seen Life as a House? All though he played a jerk he did pretty good and the love scenes weren't that bad in Episode 2. :D I was very much invovled in them if you get my drift.. ;)

    YJ edit: That language isn't allowed here.
     
  20. ST-TPM-ASF-TNE

    ST-TPM-ASF-TNE Moderator Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    You should edit your post.

    No extensive swearing allowed here you fiend ;)
     
  21. Jedilisa

    Jedilisa Jedi Youngling star 3

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    Hayden is mostly dissed by males who are jealous of him because of all the attention he receives....It is not his fault he is really good looking/talented actor and attracts the attention of women/men everywhere.I believe he is the perfect person to play Anakin.He did a great job portraying anakin..I personally enjoyed the "Wet Dream" scene..He looks great without a shirt. And it is not a "Wet Dream" that he has..it is a premonition.
     
  22. Jedilisa

    Jedilisa Jedi Youngling star 3

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    I agree with you Anakin_Girl...You are right.
     
  23. Chewsocka

    Chewsocka Jedi Youngling

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    Hayden's fine. He was good in Life as a House. The problem with the acting in SW movies is with the director. Lucas actually wants the stilted, droll performances his actors deliver. Go figure.
     
  24. JediMasterGaladriel

    JediMasterGaladriel Jedi Youngling star 1

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    SO RIGHT! About the so called "Wet Dream scene" :) I think people dis Hayden because well they're just to concede to understand that there is someone hotter then them out there! I have to tell my friend Evan this everyday when he e-mails me and says stop talking about Hayden every freakin day! I shall one day make an "I hate Hayden Christensen FanClub" Man does that tick me off! Anyway all you people are so right that is all I have to say! [face_laugh] yea right I'm just getting started someone through something good and juicy at me so I can make coments about it! :D
     
  25. SithLord127

    SithLord127 Jedi Youngling star 2

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    As for the "jealous" references, just to comment. My wife also gets nautious when she sees Hayden's lines in the movie. So I know that my wife doesn't like him, jealousy has nothing to do with it. I also post in the Kevin Nash discussion forum and the women there are just like some of the females here. They base everything on looks, not talent. Ryan Phillippe would have done a WAAAAY better job and even though Attack of The Clones is my favorite episode yet, it still would have been 10 times better. DiCaprio would have been OK, better then Hayden, but not as good as Ryan Phillippe.
     
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