Why do people dis Hayden Christensen?

MaraJade55 is right. Guys just shouldn't be here because they aren't secure about themselves knowing that so many girls think he's hot. LOL....Life as a House was great btw.

 

Tusken scene could've been better? I really don't agree. If you mean they should've shown the killing then you are wrong because what you imagine in your head is unlimited.

 

Ryan Phillip is supposedly too old and not tall enough.

 

Age doesn't mean a thing, there are people in movies all the time who play younger characters. Hell all those people from Beverly Hills 90210 were in their late 20's and they were playing high schoolers.

 

Hayden did extremely well in AOTC as Anakin. Jake was... well, okay. but I understand why GL wanted us to see a young Anakin in ep1. As for the dialogue... GET OVER IT. ITs Star Wars!! geez. Anywho... yeah. Its all cool. lol heh.

I agree with some ppl on this thread, Anakin_Girl for example. um... yeah. I look forward to ep3 big time. Yippee!!! er

 

Hey Leonardo D'caprio or whatever is gross the movie he was really good in was the Man in the Iron Mask! He did a great job doing both twins! I agree with all ya all on the whole thing because most of you toke what I was going to say! I agree with Mara Jade too! I think she has a good point in the matter! !

 

Why Thankyou JediRuler and JediMasterGaladriel it's nice to know that people agree with what I have to say! It's nice people like you guys that there need to more of in the world! ! Cool names by the way!

 

Hey JediMasterGaladriel it's more like D'Craprio! ! Hayden is to hott to dis I think we should rebel or something!

 

I think Hayden sucks because of his name--Christensen--that's too hard to pronounce. Say it three times fast, you'll by all kinds of tongue-tied.


BTW,

 

Well thats BS! are you just joking?

 

What? The whole "BTW " didn't let on that I was really being serious?

 

Hayden didnt really show me anything special in AOTC, nothing to exciting or to dull. Anakin was a hard role to pick, and I think that whoever was to be picked was going to be so-so. Hayden is LAAH was a lot better than he was in AOTC, that is IMO, Anakin would have been better off with body piercings and blue hair anyways

 

Uhmmm, squeeeze me !

I'm not dissing Hayden because he is hot, i'm dissing him because his acting wasn't what i expected from him. I'm pretty sure about myself and i don't feel "insecure" with people around me who are better looking or more handsome (i'm starting to lose my hair, and that's upsetting at 28 years old, but that didn't affect my personality). In fact, i appreciate the performances of guys like Brad Pitt, Bruce Willis, whatever. My wife thinks that they are hot, and i can accept that without having to diss them to feel better.

Having said that, there had been some terrific perfomances in Star Wars. You can compare those with Hayden and think if is he actually a good actor:

- Sir Alec Guiness: The first Obi Wan, this "master thespian" made an excellent work. His role as Obi Wan really hit the spot. We all remember him for this one, but he was also a very accomplished Shakespearean actor. In fact, he didn't like being Kenobi, nevertheless, he excelled at the job.

- Ewan McGregor: Extraordinary role as the younger Kenobi. He even copies the accent of Sir Alec Guiness when he speaks. You can actually believe he IS the younger Obi Wan.

- David Prowse: He was never a famous performer, but he made an incredible job by being the man behind the black mask of Darth Vader. You can actually see the emotions with just the way he swivels his head or moves his body just a little forward. That was a tough role, lacking the main tool of an actor (his face), and he was able to do it, and do it in a remarkable way.

Just three examples... and compare with Hayden.

 

i'd like to say it wasn't haydens first movie. but to get to the point, it was great acting! he did it perfectly1 and may i ask what was the "wet dreams" scene? anyhow for those losers who say "he didnt show enough emotion" hello! the jedi are taught not to so he didnt know how to show emotion (menaing anakin) hayden did it perfectly and hes the hottest guy ever! jake llyod stinks i want to strangle him myself. hayden also played in "higher ground". no one else could of played anakin. and i admit anakins lines in both one and two stink. they are so corny! all well, all hail Hayden

 

"hello! the jedi are taught not to so he didnt know how to show emotion (menaing anakin) hayden did it perfectly "



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"Hello !" Of course Jedi are taught to not act like idiots, but they aren't trained to act like a freezin' robot. Even Star Trek's Data can handle more subtle emotions.

Acting angry a whole movie doesn't make a good character. I never understood why does Anakin always complain about his master("He's holding me back"), when the movie only shows a few interactions before that. Anakin looks an talks like an spoiled brat, as someone said before. The arguing between he and Obi Wan seems forced, out of place. "They need to fight in some moment, so let's make them fight. At least they could have been fighting for something important, not a fight coming from thin air.

Sometimes it made me recall "The Planet of The Apes" (Tim's version): there you had good SFX, good music, average actors, and... they did only stupid things. Sometimes they did things that "had to be there". Some time in the movie somebody had to say "damn them all to hell", in a certain moment, someone had to kiss a monkey, someone had to run somewhere, even when it was completely illogical to do so.

The Clones is a better movie, way better. But, it still has some big holes in th script and dialogues. Four words at the right time might change the whole movie. Do you remember "... I am your father" in TESB ? We all were like "whoa !!!! Something important has happened here !!!". That was a good script: the bad guy being the father of the good guy. This was complex, this was new, how can evil give birth to good !

If Anakin had some good lines like "i remember you when we met for the first time. I was only a kid, but i knew that you would change my life forever... yada yada yada yada... You bring to my mind memories of my mother, of those days when everything seemed simple... but now i'm trapped in my duty, yada yada yada". But no, he goes with pick up lines like "you're not like sand".
Hell, like if that would have worked even once. I don't know other galaxies, but here, on earth, most girls will run away if someone starts comparing them with geographical features or construction materials. "You are like.. well, you are not like wood. You aren't like bubblegum either. You are more of... mmmh, a plush kind of person... Ehr, no ! Ehm... you are like sponge ! Yeah, that is, sponge... soft, you are soft and smooth, nothing like the coarse hygienic paper we have here".


Damn those scriptwriters... Damn them all to hell !!! [phrase said with my fist clenched in the air]

 

I thought the kid was brill. Every time I see the movie I uncover another aspect of Anakin or some other Vaderism/Jakeism that Hayden's incorporated to make all the many actors that have played Anakin/Vader over the years come together in his "bridge" performance. Foreshadowing, allusion, it's all there. I'm convinced he'll only further his success in Episode III, and maybe then people will finally be able to appreciate what he did with the char. in II.

He's completely deconstructed himself and reconstructed the perfect Anakin - mannerisms spot-on. Whenever I hear a complaint against "Hayden", I find it's usually a subconscious complaint against "Anakin" - people don't realize it's just how the character acts. Of course, there is no way that every fan's personal vision of Anakin Skywalker at this period in his life can be matched - that's just impossible. But the stereotypical view that he should be "evil and kewl", just because he's gonna grow up to be Vader, holds no ground for me. Hayden portrays an insecure, overly passionate, overgrown kid who desires control yet lacks it so severely, and that's exactly how things should be at this point. And I totally dig his "off"-method of delivering lines - it's reminiscent of Vader's speech pattern, and even kid Ani... sounds like he's gonna crack at any minute. Vader has an extra dimension of depth to him now. I can more fully empathize with Luke on his quest to redeem his father, because I've had the opportunity to get into his father's mind... it doesn't seem so unfounded anymore.

I give Christensen top props for such careful attention to detail in this role. It may not be fully credited or appreciated now, but I like to think it will be someday.

Expecting great things for III. Bring it on!

 

Hey, Darth Mauve!!I thought Hayden was Fine as well, both for his acting and to look at.Work it girlfriend!!

 

Right on! Yea MaraJade D'Craprio clever! I think that was hilraous ! ! I wish I would have thought of that! no matter it's just I always try to be the funny one! Hayden is just hot all around! (if you get my drift)! !

 

TheVioletBurns: You're a genius.

orbiter:

1) The three actors you mention can't compare to Hayden at all. Sir Alec is good, but he had also been acting for years by the time he played Obi-Wan--that would be like comparing Hayden to Christopher Lee, who is old enough to be his grandfather. I think Ewan is a great actor, but he's not better than Hayden. And David Prowse? Definitely not.

As for Hayden--no actor has ever succeeded in leaving me completely in awe the way Hayden did the first time I saw him act, which was in an episode of Higher Ground. I think the mark of a good actor is someone who can have the audience get into his/her character, actually feel what that character is feeling. Hayden does that in every TV show or film he's been in, including AOTC--I have seen several people who did not want to sympathize with Anakin admit to doing so, to a point, during the confession scene, and admit that Hayden did a great job with that scene and throughout the entire movie.

2) You gave no substantial reason why you don't like Hayden other than you don't like his character and you don't like his lines. That's not his fault. He didn't write the script, and Lucas decides what Anakin's character is like and directs Hayden on how to play him--he doesn't give the actors much latitude for creativity in that department.

Otherwise--what VioletBurns said. A lot of people expected Anakin to be some kind of Arnold Schwarznegger-type badass just because he's going to be Vader, and people aren't willing to remember that he's not Vader yet in this film--he's just another 19-year-old kid with issues; a kid who has Force powers, sure, but still just another kid.

 

I haven't seen Hayden's TV series yet. I could praise him about those if we were talking about TV series. But we are talking about Star Wars. In AOTC, he didn't do well. As easy as that. I wasn't waiting to see "Terminator III" when i went to the cinema.

I remember a passage in the movie "Nightwatch"; there was Ewan McGregor acting as one of the main characters.

One of his friends asks him: "If you have to choose between two movies which one would you choose ? One is an average summer movie, it's fun, it lasts for some 90 minutes, and it's full of action. The other, has 45 minutes of action, but the last 45 minutes are about one character reading a book, sitting on a chair. Whic one would you choose ?"

Ewan's character replies: "Well, it depends"

-"Depends on what ?"

-"It depends on who is performing the character reading the book".

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What i mean is, AOTC was an average summer movie, fun, i didn't think i was wasting my money when i saw it. But i would have prefered better acting....

 

It's not as easy as that because to many of us you are dead wrong. Your opinion is not fact.

 

He's completely deconstructed himself and reconstructed the perfect Anakin - mannerisms spot-on. Whenever I hear a complaint against "Hayden", I find it's usually a subconscious complaint against "Anakin" - people don't realize it's just how the character acts. Of course, there is no way that every fan's personal vision of Anakin Skywalker at this period in his life can be matched - that's just impossible. But the stereotypical view that he should be "evil and kewl", just because he's gonna grow up to be Vader, holds no ground for me. Hayden portrays an insecure, overly passionate, overgrown kid who desires control yet lacks it so severely, and that's exactly how things should be at this point. And I totally dig his "off"-method of delivering lines - it's reminiscent of Vader's speech pattern, and even kid Ani... sounds like he's gonna crack at any minute. Vader has an extra dimension of depth to him now. I can more fully empathize with Luke on his quest to redeem his father, because I've had the opportunity to get into his father's mind... it doesn't seem so unfounded anymore.

I give Christensen top props for such careful attention to detail in this role. It may not be fully credited or appreciated now, but I like to think it will be someday.

posted by TheVioletBurns

yes to everything you said there - hayden nailed it!

 

Having said that, there had been some terrific perfomances in Star Wars. You can compare those with Hayden and think if is he actually a good actor:...

- David Prowse: He was never a famous performer, but he made an incredible job by being the man behind the black mask of Darth Vader. You can actually see the emotions with just the way he swivels his head or moves his body just a little forward. That was a tough role, lacking the main tool of an actor (his face), and he was able to do it, and do it in a remarkable way.

Just three examples... and compare with Hayden.

orbiter: Hayden worse than Prowse??? You must be kidding. You cannot compare Hayden - a man with talent and charisma - with Prowse. Prowse is just a whining old man with a too big head.

 

I think that people should cut Hayden some slack. Sure, he's as wooden as a plank of wood... but so is Ewan McGregor... and Natalie Portman. In fact, almost everyone is wooden in the Star Wars prequels ! Alec Guiness was as flat as a pancake in the originals too, and Mark Hamil wasn't exactly Gene Hackman. But does it matter, I ask you ? No, of course it doesn't. Star Wars is more about plot, visuals and excitement. The fact that Harrison Ford and some of the other cast members have given exciting performances, is just a bonus. In no way is Star Wars about acting. The actors are just sort of there lol They are just devices for delivering the dialogue. Was the acting really great in Flash Gordon or any of the sci fi serials in the 30's/40's ? Was the acting very good, in most 50's b-movies ? That's what Star wars is trying to evoke. Sure, it's an epic saga, which we all analyse to death, and watch obsessively... but it's really just a high budget kid's own, sci-fi serial

I do agree, that Hayden is very flat. But he looks the part, he is good in the action scnes, and he holds his own. He is perfectly adequate for the role