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Worst CGI moment in ROTS

Discussion in 'Archive: Revenge of the Sith' started by Darth-_Kermit, Oct 16, 2005.

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  1. brook_33

    brook_33 Jedi Padawan star 4

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    I found a lot of R2D2's shots made him look CG. They weren't bad, but you could definately tell when he was CG and when he wasn't.

    The clones heads were terribly done when the helmets came off.

    It looked better in the film, but in the tv spots, when yoda is defending the jedi temple from clones on the outside, and he turns off his saber, it looked really bad.

    Dooku's face sometimes looked too CG.
     
  2. Tyler_Boydston

    Tyler_Boydston Jedi Youngling star 1

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    Same here. Everything else was pretty good, although I can't really give my honest opinion until I see the DVD, as I haven't seen the movie since May. I can remember that though, but that was about it.
     
  3. JediCouncilMaster

    JediCouncilMaster Jedi Youngling star 6

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    Doesn't anyone agree with me on the Palpatine and Posse fight? Doesn't Palpatine's twirl and his fighting style look so fake? His face looked fake. His attacks look fake. Everything looked fake.

    By the way...6,000th Post! [face_dancing]
     
  4. ThrawnRocks

    ThrawnRocks Jedi Master star 6

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    I felt that a lot of the CGI, especialy, oddly enough, the lightsabers, at the beginning when Anakin and Obi-Wan are running around in the Invisable Hand looked very cartoony. To tell you the truth, that whole part on the Invisable Hand until after the Dooku fight look very cartoony, especialy with that little elivator episode. When I was seeing this part of the movie I was thinking "what the hell? ILM messed up big time on this one." Lucky for me, the CGI got better.
     
  5. thechozn1

    thechozn1 Jedi Master star 4

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    Yeah, when the bridge falls down on Obi-wan it should have broken him in half with the force they gave that thing.
     
  6. DarthCryptus

    DarthCryptus Jedi Youngling star 1

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    the platform never falls on Obi-Wan. If you look closely it falls directly above him and there are posts on the back of the platform holding it up.
     
  7. lordvicious

    lordvicious Jedi Youngling star 2

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    Palpatine's face during his fight in the hall with Mace. I am not sure it is CG or it was his stunt double but it looks nothing like Ian.

    Second would be Dooku's initial somersault over the railing. When he lands and unhooks his saber, he looks very fake.
     
  8. KfistoRox

    KfistoRox Jedi Youngling star 2

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    I don't have any probs with the clones or Dooku as some of you are saying. I'm not sure if it was the cgi or the shot, but in the climatic scene after DV makes the jump onto the droid and camera pans in it looked a little off.
     
  9. Winston_Sith

    Winston_Sith Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    :::I found a lot of R2D2's shots made him look CG. They weren't bad, but you could definately tell when he was CG and when he wasn't.

    Really?

    Got any actual *proof* for that?

    I know that R2's obviously(?) CG when he fries the SBD's, but what else?
     
  10. EwokThatCried

    EwokThatCried Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Super battle droids vs. R2-D2, the oil slick and fire looked very Looney Toons to me and the guys who did R2-D2's CGI double forgot to add all the subtle jerks vibrations and bounces that the actual remote control R2 has when he moves. The CGI version glides way to smoothly.
     
  11. starwarsagent

    starwarsagent Jedi Youngling star 5

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    in ROTS the animators worked really hard on grievous. he looked real. no doubts. he was a real metal robot, like the terminator. He felt full, real.

    Yoda looked pretty bad in some shots, more to the ending, I think they rushed it when he was fighting sidious and going into the tunnel to escape.

    overall, 98% of the effects were fine. better than the effects from all those 80's movies. Im glad george is moving on to new ways to tell a story.


    SWA.

     
  12. DarthNolan

    DarthNolan Jedi Youngling star 1

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    I think the most obvious contenders are the Dooku Flip and the Palpatine twirl. They both were distractingly bad. Oh and that little jump Palpatine does towards the end of his duel with Mace, I think there was a collective WTF?? in the cinema when that happened.
     
  13. starwarsagent

    starwarsagent Jedi Youngling star 5

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    I saw ROTS 15 times in a digital theater. I didnt have any problem. perhaps thats why the difference.


    SWA.
     
  14. The_Force_within

    The_Force_within Jedi Youngling star 1

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    OBW was sliding??? Anyway, the worst moment has got to be the balcony, it appears to be going through OBW's leg at one point, which I found quite badly done.
     
  15. darthvaderv

    darthvaderv Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Well the lava surfing is the worst for me. Good idea, good scenary, it just was unrealistic in some parts. Still not bad for such a CGI film. I think as great as CGI is, some of it is still recognisable, technology is not quite at the limit yet.
     
  16. DarthNolan

    DarthNolan Jedi Youngling star 1

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    Because so much of ROTS is CGI I wonder if in 5-10 years time when CGI technology has improved Lucas will go back and re-do ROTS.
     
  17. arbed

    arbed Jedi Knight star 5

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    For me, it was Obi-Wan flying through the air by Count Dooku. Seemed pretty weird there for some reason.
     
  18. DINVADER_RETURNS

    DINVADER_RETURNS Jedi Youngling star 3

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    Well the lava surfing is the worst for me. Good idea, good scenary, it just was unrealistic in some parts. Still not bad for such a CGI film. I think as great as CGI is, some of it is still recognisable, technology is not quite at the limit yet.


    I hope you realize a lot of Mustafar was models and miniatures.
     
  19. Lord_NoONE

    Lord_NoONE Jedi Master star 5

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    There were a few overly cartoony moments in the film but they never really stuck out to me. I can't pin any of them down and isolate them as the worst. I can say that there were cartoonish moments but they paled when compared with the awesomeness of RotS.
     
  20. poker

    poker Jedi Youngling star 3

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    I completely disagree, but I always disagree with you anyway. ;)
     
  21. Ben R

    Ben R Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Dooku's flip over the balcony railing: I think that the reason it looked so weird was that his flip was too fast and he didn't seem to have any weight when he hit the floor below.

    Clones with no helmets: I agree that they should have just made a damned suit.

    Obi-Wan blocking 4 of Grievous' sabers at once: This one really made me cringe. This is where Grievous first comes at him with all 4 sabers. The first block that Obi-Wan made stops all 4 sabers. But, not only is that lame, but the manner in which it happened looked off. You have these 4 light sabers, being spun around at power-tool speed by huge, robotic arms. Can you imagine the momentum behind those if they were real? Even if a Jedi were able to block 4 at once, there would be some recoil. ...But, there's not. All 4 sabers immediately stop at Obi-Wan's with no bouncing or movement. Just a dead stop as if they were swund at a 2 billion ton piece of steel. It looked awful and ruined what was a fabulous start to that fight. Up until that moment, I was thinking, "Oh, this is KICK @$$!!!" Then, all 4 sabers stop abruptly with no apparent foce against Obi-Wan's lame block. Then, I thought this ---> [face_plain]
     
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  22. starwarsagent

    starwarsagent Jedi Youngling star 5

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    thanks. :)


    SWA.
     
  23. DamonD

    DamonD Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Off the top of my head, I thought a couple of the Palaptine head-swaps in the Palps-Mace fight looked a little too obvious. Apart from that, nothing really caught my eye...
     
  24. DarthBerg0

    DarthBerg0 Jedi Youngling

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    Yeah, it was definitely the CG clones that screwed up any scene they were in. I just get ticked that they didn't just make the two costumes that were necessary, Cody and Bly. Not only would it help the eye lines, it would be more realistic and their feet would actually touch the ground.
     
  25. Darth-_Kermit

    Darth-_Kermit Jedi Youngling

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    Now, many of you have agreed with me -- the Morrison head on the CG clones just wasn't pulled off well at all.
    But, really, with the millions spent you think ILM could have done better with what *seems* like a fairly easy trick, i.e., putting a human head on a CG costume. This is one movie that should not have to be tweaked for the DVD...they should either find a way to do the shot, or not do it at all. Yup, they should have spent a few dollars and created a Clone uniform, or two. Lucas seemed so proud back in interviews after AOTC about the fact that all the clones were CG.
    As a "customer" I think he could have done better; now he 's got more tweaking to do to maintain his "legacy."
    I hope it doesn't sound like I'm bad-mouthing GL; I'm not, this is meant as constructive criticism (although I seriously doubt ole George would ever get around to reading *this,* lol.
     
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