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Worst CGI moment in ROTS

Discussion in 'Archive: Revenge of the Sith' started by Darth-_Kermit, Oct 16, 2005.

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  1. OMoT33

    OMoT33 Jedi Youngling star 1

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    I dont think any of us mean to bash ILM. Frankly, they are the best in the business and I am almost certain that no other company could have turned out what they did in ROTS. Some of these CGI moments that looked a little iffy are simply that because there are no computers capable of rendering some of the stuff they used in the film (i.e the trees on Kashyyyk). Therefore, models had to be used or the CGI would have to be toned down, and hence the bad CGI moments. That doesn't mean we can't complain about it tho.
     
  2. Jumpman

    Jumpman Jedi Padawan star 4

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    You can complain about. But, you have to understand that no one has ever done 2200 visual effects shots in a film. That's just remarkable that they only have a few bad shots in a two hour fourteen minute film. And to think, ILM has done this for three films. And out of 6500 visual effects shots, there's probably only 100, if even that. That's incredible.

    By the way, they used a crap more models in the Prequels than most think.
     
  3. The_Dark_Knight

    The_Dark_Knight Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Actually this off topic but I think that ILM did a better job at ROTS than War of the Worlds. The aliens and the helicopters and stuff like that look kind of fake but for the worst CGI moment would have to be the throw of Obi-Wan by Dooku.
     
  4. Darthdesert

    Darthdesert Jedi Youngling star 1

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    all the lava in Mustafar looks awful, specially when Anakin and Obi are dueling over that kind of plataform, it really looks fake to me. All the rest pretty cool, Dooku fliping over the handrail is just cool, Grevious was great, all the way!
     
  5. The_Dark_Knight

    The_Dark_Knight Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Actually I thought they did a good job with the lava and Mustafar as a whole.
     
  6. Jumpman

    Jumpman Jedi Padawan star 4

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    ^Come back to me once you see the film on DVD. I've seen it digitally projected. Mustafar was stunning. All of the shots.
     
  7. The_Dark_Knight

    The_Dark_Knight Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    I didn't see it digitally but I can't wait for the DVD though. But I thought Mustafar looked stunning by itself though. ILM did a top notch job on this movie regardless what anybody says. But they didn't do a that great of a job of War of the Worlds though.
     
  8. Jumpman

    Jumpman Jedi Padawan star 4

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    The lava itself is difficult to achieve, let alone having an entire planet made of magma and volcanoes with 2 actors in the middle of it. They did the best they could do. With what they did, it looked great. If they had more time and money, it would've been unreal. It's close to unreal now.
     
  9. The_Dark_Knight

    The_Dark_Knight Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Yeah I'm waiting for the DVD they say it's supposed to be like the digital production quality. So I can;t wait to see how sharper the images and colors will be.
     
  10. WitchKing66

    WitchKing66 Jedi Padawan star 4

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    i am really not good in the digital/film difference ...
    i guess the DVD is the digital, but for some reason watching AOTC on the DVD made some scenes look very cartoony; espacially the deleted scene in AOTC with Mace and OB1 talking in the Jedi hanger bay; when OB1 takes off with the fighter; it looks like a video game ... if u go to official SW site, u check out the pics from ROTS, you can really know which one is CG; but that i suppose is because they are pictures ....
    i dont know [face_whistling]
     
  11. Jumpman

    Jumpman Jedi Padawan star 4

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    The DVD will be sharper than the Episode II DVD simply because of the new generation HD cameras they used on Episode III. It will look like film but a much vibrant, higher quality of film. It's a digital image that replicates the film look, but cleaner, more vibrant in colors, and sharper.

    I was looking at the "A Hero Falls" music video on the Star Wars Musical Journey DVD and I could tell that Episode III is going to look great on DVD. Eventhough, in that DVD, the transfer of the video isn't that great, the images were sharper than the Episode II music video.

    If you want a great hint at how great the DVD will look, pop in your Clone Wars Volume DVD and watch the teaser trailer. Then, multiply that by 2 or 3 and you get an idea how great this image is going to look.

    I haven't seen it yet but after seeing it digitally 8 times, I know it's going to be ridiculously stunning.

    Well, the deleted scenes in Episode II were not finished in terms of visual effects and the image quality wasn't even up to par to the image transfer of the film itself of that DVD. Plus, you're seeing semi-stock digital footage of the deleted scenes. Those scenes hadn't been put through the ringer to match the image quality of the film itself. That's why they look a little different than say the film itself on DVD. With Episode III, the deleted scenes should be as exact as the feature film itself in terms of transfer and visual effects except for the Shaak Ti scene.
     
  12. The_Dark_Knight

    The_Dark_Knight Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Now that I think of it the clone troopers look kind of bad at times but other than a few glitches like Yoda looked kind of cartoonish when he told Obi-Wan to search his feelings and find him you will speech. Yoda looked kind of cartoonish there, but other than that I can't think of anything else.
     
  13. yoshifett

    yoshifett Jedi Knight star 5

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    I was just WAITING for another ROTS ****er thread. Thank God it's here.
     
  14. The_Dark_Knight

    The_Dark_Knight Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Please excuse me for not knowing but what is a ****er thread??? :confused: An inquiring mind wants to know.
     
  15. yoshifett

    yoshifett Jedi Knight star 5

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    I define it as a thread with the sole purpose of complaining about ROTS.
     
  16. The_Dark_Knight

    The_Dark_Knight Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Ah I see.
     
  17. KILLER-CLONE

    KILLER-CLONE Jedi Youngling star 1

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    ****er threads.......you've come to the right place.
     
  18. XenoSkywalker

    XenoSkywalker Jedi Padawan star 4

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    It seems a bit amazing that no one noticed "Anakin's Fake Face on Mustafar"...

    ...I was not taken out of the "moment" by what I considered to be a shot that did not look real, but I did notice the "unrealness" of the shot that I am about to describe....:

    When Anakin and Obi-Wan are in the Room with the Long Table on Mustafar and they are both Force Pushing Each other... and then "explode" away from each other, when the Camera shows us Obi-Wan fly across the room, it looks great... ...but when they show what happened on Anakin's side of things, they show him (Anakin) fall on the Control Panel, and he recovers; and during the process of his "recovery", he faces the camera, and he doesn't really look very much like Anakin (face wise, that is) unfortunately...


    ...Thankfully for me, when I sit down to watch a fantasy movie such as Star Wars, I am always able to accept whatever I see, because I know that I will enjoy the story regardless of any technological shortcoming, so I am never affected by things of such unimportance. :)

    But I can empathize with people that feel taken out of a scene for whatever reason. It really sucks when you are trying to "buy in" to the "reality" of the movie, only to be shaken out of it when someone sneezes, or talks, or crunches food, or ad nauseum..... [face_plain]

    [face_peace]
     
  19. Garth Maul

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    I think ROTS might have been the first movie I've seen where I didn't groan at some CGI scene.

    That being said, I suppose I'd have to go with Dooku chucking Obi-Wan, and maybe the Clormtroopers without helmets.

    Part of the problem is that we KNOW what they did to certain scenes, so it's easier to look for flaws.

    For example, I thought Dooku's flip was actually rather well done, particularly the movement of his clothes. Unfortunately, we all know Chris Lee is 8 billion years old, and he can't move like that anymore.

    I think the fact we know it's fake makes it look more fake.
     
  20. XenoSkywalker

    XenoSkywalker Jedi Padawan star 4

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    ...Exactly;... ...which is why being able to "shut down" your "conscious analytical mind" during movies or games is such a beautiful thing... ;) :D
     
  21. darthvaderv

    darthvaderv Jedi Padawan star 4

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    I know that. However, you must admit when Anakin jumps on the droid opposite Obi-Wan the realisticness of the lava does die. As this is a common complaint, I think you are hard pressed to defend these scenes.
     
  22. BothofUs

    BothofUs Jedi Padawan star 4

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    3) Palpatine's Great Leap Forward looking fake
    4) Palpatine's idiotic Yoda's style jump at the end of the duel with mace
    5) Grevious chase with OB1


    These were some of my favorite tidbits from the movie! This criticism is unfounded, IMO.
     
  23. darthvaderv

    darthvaderv Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Yes agreed. It's not that some scenes are not liked, this thread is about the worst CGI moments though.
     
  24. StormTrooper1776

    StormTrooper1776 Jedi Padawan star 4

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    All the CGI was awesome,not one thing sucked.
     
  25. darth_zom

    darth_zom Jedi Youngling star 1

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    Even if this IS a ****er-thread, my only issue with the Dooku flip was that I too thought it out of character, as WK66 suggests. I expected a confident stroll down the stairs from Lee followed by some arrogant dialogue. Then again, I did not expect Dooku to die in three minutes, which I still feel could have been written better (Fade to the Chancellor's office, Anakin has called on the darkside and decapitates Count Dooku just as Mace Windu and Obi-Wan arrive). The platform pushing Obi-Wan's body just looked weak to me. I thought the whole Mustafar sequence was incredible, however, flitting CG bots and all!
     
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