XJ X-wing vs the E Wing. Lets get ready to RUMBLE!

E-Wings are still heavily used even in the NJO but probably for planetary defense instead of space flights,they were present in the Battle of Yuuzhan'Tar/Coruscant,fighting along side of HowlRunners and other fighters, so they are mostly used by local security forces as capable tough ships, the XJ-X Wings are used by fleets and battle groups in space because of their speed and proven combat ability.

 

I can't give any examples, but I definitely remember squadrons of E-Wings being assigned to different ships throughout the NJO. I don't think they are just part of planetary defense groups.

 

People without swearing why cant you
get it to your head.

If the E-wing was better than older X-wings.

Its totally obvious that the new E-wing
improved like the Xj is still better than
the latter its simple logistics.

Example: Honda civic has been upgraded troughout this decade but it cant beat, say
a mazda Miata, because it has also been upgraded it is still better.

It doesnt make any sense that the NR or GFFA
to upgrade the X-wing and not upgrade the best fighter they had in the New republic years.

Think please, its not so hard you should try
it.

If your favorite craft is the X-wing rock on
I love it but that does not justify for us
telling its the superior fighter.

Just wait for the new EVV, and you'll see.

 

E-Wings are still heavily used even in the NJO but probably for planetary defense instead of space flights,they were present in the Battle of Yuuzhan'Tar/Coruscant,fighting along side of HowlRunners and other fighters, so they are mostly used by local security forces as capable tough ships, the XJ-X Wings are used by fleets and battle groups in space because of their speed and proven combat ability.

You're confusing the V-wings with the E-wings in the Battle for Coruscant. It was V-wings and Howlrunners used by Coruscant Planetary Forces. Like it has been said earlier, E-wings are used extensively throughout the NJO, but in a backgroud role. Jedi use the X-wings, so therefore they get the prominent screentime by the authors. Mara Jade even flew an E-wing at the end of Rebel Stand as part of Blackmoon Squadron (the most famous pro E-wing squadron seen thus far in the NJO).

 

stop hiting enter in the middle of your sentences it annoying it almost as bad as all caps.

 

Ill try

 

I don't think that the car thing is a good analogy. With the improvements, the two fighters may not have improved equally well, and the gap between them might not be so big anymore.

Since the E-Wings already had so much firepower and are so expensive, they may have only made the necessary adjustments for grab-proof shield and stutterfire.

Consider a 1985 Thunderbird and Firebird versus the 2002 Thunderbird and Firebird. The 2002 T-bird is probably better than the 2002 Firebird in terms of speed and options, but in 1985, the Firebird wins.

 

E-Wings would make scrap metal out of the
X-Wings.

It would make sense that the people in GFFA would regularly upgrade their fighters.

Take a look at the US. The B-52 has been around since the 50s, and we have been modifying them so much that their projected life-span is to exceed 100 years!.

Unless Rogues or Luke is behind the stick, an average pilot in an E-Wing would shoot down an X-WIng with a average pilot.

 

Is there any real evidence for that? Last I checked the XJ3 was one of the best snubs in the fleet. I don't know anywhere that the E-Wing has a distinct advantage.

 

True the XJ3 is one of the best snubs.
But if it was superior than the E-wing,
why come up with the new E-wing the E-wingIV.
The X-wing is prefered by elite squadrons,
because they have been around for years so its obvious they prefer the symbol of their
squadron, or they have grown acusstomed to it. Period.

 

If I were to say why X-wings are around more, it would be because FreiTek simply can't meet the production demands as a Mega Corporation such as Incom, driving up the price of E-wings and limiting their availability. Of course, that's just an assumption based on what I'v gleaned from the books and my own knowledge (basic but fundamental) of military contractors.

The Lockheed Martin/Boeing YF-22 was picked over the Norhtrop YF-23 in the Advanced Tactical Fighter competition because Lockheed Martin was a proven manufacturer for the Air Force, and Northrop had really screwed them with the pricing of the B-2 bomber. The YF-23 was actually superior to the YF-22 in all categories except maneuverability and projected costs. So it was snubbed because of politics, not performance.

Perhaps the same aspects can be applied to the X-wing/E-wing case.

 

But if it was superior than the E-wing, why come up with the new E-wing the E-wingIV.

That doesn't mean a thing. If the X-Wings were inferior than why bother making the xj3?

The X-wing is prefered by elite squadrons, because they have been around for years so its obvious they prefer the symbol of their squadron, or they have grown acusstomed to it. Period.

Or maybe because they think its a superior craft, or because E-Wings smell funny, or because they don't like starfighters that start with vowels....
I'm not saying your wrong, I just haven't seen any proof. I don't have any huge attachment to the X-Wing, I just don't take peoples opinion and assumption as fact. Until a source says 'the new e-wings are way better than the new x-wings' I can't make any assumption on which is better.

Kansasnavy -- that makes sense

 

We have no stats on the Series IV, and only fanmade d6 conversions of the XJ. Given that FreiTek engineers managed to juice up the ol' T-65 to fly about 50% faster, it stands to reason the Series IV can move faster than the original A/B models.

Since both ships are made by the same manufacturer (Incom was nationalized by the Empire, X-wing and E-wing production are both FreiTek enterprises), it stands to reason that they aren't direct competitors. The XJ/XJ3 is a space superiority fighter, equivalent to the USAF F-15C Eagle. It seems mainly tailored towards knocking down other fighters, although the torps give it a healthy antiship punch.

With nearly twice the torpedo load (and the Series IV might have an enlarged magazine), the E-wing is more like the USAF's F-15E Strike Eagle. It can mix it up with the other guy's fighters, but it's best at pounding the crap out of bigger targets. In the NJO, the Series IV might possibly even be a twin-seat, beefed-up model designed to replace the B-wing as the F/A-18E/F and F-14 fighters have replaced the dedicated A-6 Intruder attack plane in the US Navy.

The E-wing is almost certainly more manuverable than the XJ3. In Dark Journey, Kyp Durron finds himself being outmanuvered both by Chiss Clawcraft and black-market Hornet Interceptors. The original E-wing could match a super-agile TIE Interceptor move for move. The E-wing can also likely take a lot more punishment than the XJ3.

If it were my choice, I'd take an E-wing anytime, anywhere.

 

the e wing is not limbo...i've seen an action fleet toy of it before. Ha!

 

The X- A- B- and E-wings have been used every now and again. You even get I-7 Howlrunners and Vigilence Interceptors popping up, too.

But no K-wings. I'm thinking there's a legal reason for the utter lack of Special Ks thus far.

 

well, personally I think that it's obvious that the E-wing is the better fighter, but does it really matter? The TIE Defender could whip them both at the same time! Why doesn't the NR buid a bunch of those?


They way I see it, the X-wing is sorta like the F4 Phantom. It's been around for years, everyone loves it and even though it?s bordering on being obsolete, it continues to be used simple because it can still perform its job and pilots love it. There may be much better, newer and more expensive fighters but many pilots will always hang on to their X-wings. Eventually as, younger pilots, who don't have the same emotional attachment to the x-wing come into the ranks of Starfighter command, the x-wing will also be fazed out. The same thing happened with the y-wing several years back before the NJO. But eventually it was fazed out. (For the most part)

 

The only thing the Defender has the others don't is a little more agility, and a tractor beam. Loadable protons and concussions is not needed at all. One type will suffice. A pity the EVGG omitted the tractor beam for that entry.

 

oh come on!!

the defender had six, count 'em, six total cannons. E-wing? three. x-wing? four. Defender? Six!
plus plenty of warheads, and the ability to carry two different types at the same time, which is a big deal by the way. plus the tractor beam. which in many ways is the equivalent of a dovin basal. Kinda evens the odds a little bit more. and i bet Danni could come up with a way for the tractor beam to act as some sort of jamming device for the dovin basal, thereby rendering any corral skipper caught in its wake complety helpless. now that would be cool to see.

 

I'm only bringing this up, because I'm good at thinking in these terms: can you fire the Defender's laser and ion cannons simultaneously? I don't think so!

Like a B-wing's laser-blaster-ion cannon assortment (yes, there are fighter varients, I know), the primary flight stick trigger fires the cannons. But you change the selector for type of cannon.

Therefore, basking in the crowning glory of winning here, I conclude multiple cannon weaponry is for variety purposes only; able to fire one sort at a time doesn't make them more powerful.

Okay . . . I'm ready for the confetti shower now.

 

The TIE Defender can fire its lasers and ions simultaneously...

 

It's not mentioned in Isard's Revenge. How do we know?

 

I used to think all purpose launchers were a waste of time. Just load up with the more powerful proton torpedoes, why waste time with concussion missles?

But I was informed that proton torpedoes are more powerful but slower because they're heavier, more suitable for attacking capital ship. Concussion missles have lower yield but lighter, harder for fighters to dodge. So the all purpose launchers are useful because you can carry different payloads depending on your mission profile.

Oh and by the way, who ever designed the E-wing really screwed up royally. My biggest thing against them was that they were around in the dark empire days. As in before Adumar was part of the NR. So what's the point in having a payload of 16 PT's when you're having trouble securing 6 per X-wing.

I can't believe they had Rogue squadron flying E-wings. What an insult. But I refuse to acknowledge that Dark Empire is part of the SW universe anyway it's so full of crap. And since the Rogues don't fly in E-wings anywhere else, that makes me feel better.

 

"It's not mentioned in Isard's Revenge. How do we know? "

video games, my friend. Video games.

Which, by the way, are canon. Just ask Valentio.

 

I don't remember the Rogues flying E-wings in DE, but they could've, its been a while since I've read it. I don't understand why people dislike it so much (beyond the idea that it voids out Vaders sacrifice). It was the farthest story in the timeline, the only thing close to it for years was TTT, and it gels together fine with that. The next closest thing (barring rpg stuff, I don't know much about that material but I've never heard of any conflict between the two) is marvel stuff, and that is 5 years earlier. So any contradictions like SoA would be on the heads of the new author, not Veitch and Kennedy.

 

Some fighters in our history (the Spitfire, for example) have proven remarkably upgradeable for various tasks. The X-wing may be an older design, but it's cheaper to upgrade an existing T-65 to XJ3 standards rather than purchasing entirely new fighters when the upgraded X-wings can still the job well enough.

-Tim