YODA'S INVISIBLE CANE. Are you ignoring it, or don't know about it?

Wow, Neo, you're awful touchy about this stuff.... no matter how you slice it, this "invisible cane" thread is pretty nit-picky..... that's all I'm saying.

--"You havnt looked for it and wont because you dont care. Yet, your here. "

What does this mean? Yeah, I'm here because the nit-picking of these movies is so out of hand its ridiculous. You're voicing you opinion about this "no-cane" business and I'm saying: If you're going to nit-pick, nit-pick the story or something that has an effect on the films, something that has a bit of merit....story line problems, plot holes, something...

are we incapable of having fun? Of enjoying the movies? Or do we just watch it over and over, combing every frame for the slightest potential "problem"?

 

Woooo Yeahhhhh, can we please have forum for cane-debates exclusively??

 

And one for shoe lace debate.

 

Dear Neobaggins: Please stop being so dull and picky. A missing cane which doesn't even look like it's meant to be there probably neccesitates you get a new hobby and fast. Thank you.

The Establishment of WHO CARES

 

A thousand nitpicky threads, some with over a thousand post and most vague in relation to the movie. Yet, this, is nitpicky. And now Im called "touchy' when the irony points in the other direction.

"there probably neccesitates you get a new hobby and fast. Thank you."

Whoahh, cowboy. No need to get nasty. Oh, and please, dont think your cooler than the next guy/gal her folks. Remember, we are here talking about a movie regardless of the size of topic. It was geeked-out when we stepped in the door and now all of a sudden there are topics that are, "nitpicky".

Anyway, back to the subject at Yoda hands. Oh, wait. They FORGOT to put it there. I dont see where in any of my post would lead someone to believe the scene offends or bothers me. Infact my past post have me repeating myself over and over on the issue that it isnt a big deal. But people will extract what they want.

Wierd how when it was brought up that there is a stump in front of yodas chair that accomodates the length of yodas cane, there was no reply.

STARWARS has been a nitpicky stage for years. Movies that are not worth analyzing are nowhere near as popular as STARWARS. So saying this is nitpicky is hipocritical as I will find each of you somewhere on the boards discussing stuff like how many hairs Chewbacca will shed in ep3. Nitpicky, Bah. Its like going to a fart contest and telling a contestant he smells.

 

I see his point Neo. It's one thing to be nitpicky, it's another thing all together to accuse people who don't agree with you of ignoring the issue.

I think you make a decent case for their being a missing cane, but at the same time, it doesn't seem conclusive. All you are going on is the position of his hands, which sort of does look like he is reasting them on something, but he could just as easily be doing some wierd meditative thing.

The problem is this could go either way, and you would get more respect if you would just aknowledge that.

 

Benefit of the doubt goes to LFL. There's no room for a cane there.

LFL = 1

NeoBaggins = 0

Came. Saw. Ass Kicked. Happy Hanukah!

 

you can say that here? wow.

"All you are going on is the position of his hands, which sort of does look like he is reasting them on something"

Interesting observation. I agree, it does look that way, yet, theres nothing there.


", but he could just as easily be doing some wierd meditative thing."

EASILY, be doing SOME WIERD meditative THING. Now what would be more accessable. A cane meant to be added in the shot but forgotten or removed from the cgi for some reason. Or, Yoda is performing A WEIRD meditation THING that has him held up by hard air. And this is said to be something he could EASILY be doing. My stance has just been reinforced. Things are as I suspected them to be.

"The problem is this could go either way, and you would get more respect if you would just aknowledge that."

Either way? I dont understand what you mean. And your respect for me will take a backseat to me respecting myself. Every time.

 

Whatever. I'm not even sure if you really believe this anymore or if you're just antagonizing people or if you just enjoy feeling like you're the one guy that's right about some obscure fact. In my opinion, here's nothing in the scene that proves that there's supposed to be a cane there and what you're suggesting would require a very unlikely string of accidents to end up in the movie. Now that I've actually looked at the DVD I've decided that the scenario I was suggesting before isn't very plausible in this case. It's one part of one shot. How is it even possible for Yoda to need a cane in one part of one shot and not the rest of it? How exactly would an animator screw that up without doing it on purpose? I guess there's always an odd possibility... but really, I seriously doubt that an invisible cane has anything to do with the way Yoda's got his hands folded. I think the assumption here is that Yoda's actually resting the weight of his head on his hands - I don't believe he's supposed to be.

 

I just checked this scene on my AOTC DVD and here's what it looked like:

[image=http://www.starwars.com/episode-i/snapshot/2000/03/img/yodacane_bg.jpg]

The cane's there, but Yoda's gone! What the devil?!

 

Its only a matter of time.

 

Travel to the centre of gravity's pull, find your missing Yoda, you will.

 

Several post ago I wrote..

"All Yodas movements and pressure are drawn to this point. Physically but not visually. Younglings, anyone? "Master. Cause somebody deleted it from the CGI Yoda." Truly wonderful the mind of a child."

Further proof you just stumbled in here and started posting before reading up. Welp, atleast we see things the same way. The principles in the missing Kamino scene are strangley enough similar to the cane missing in the shot. Thanks for backing me up.

If you keep shoving that thing in there your gonna choke on a toenail.

 

[image=http://blueyoda.dirtyrubbish.com/images/generic/photos/stick.jpg]

My cane? Have it, I do. Right here, it is.

 

thats a good one! ROTFLMAO

 

See, now you're just getting angry.

Further proof you just stumbled in here and started posting before reading up. Welp, atleast we see things the same way. The principles in the missing Kamino scene are strangley enough similar to the cane missing in the shot. Thanks for backing me up.

While you were using your witty diatribe in an attempt to back up your own flimsy arguments, I was simply replying to someone else's far wittier post. Whereas my post had some relevance - yours, unfortunately, did not.

Now, does your mouth take a size 10?

 

>The cane's there, but Yoda's gone! What the devil?!

My theory is that originally Yoda's cane was going to be head of the Jedi council in AOTC, but then George Lucas changed his mind and the animators never got around to finishing the scene. Darn those lazy animators!

 

POINT/COUNTERPOINT: YODA'S CANE


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POINT: The cane was never in the scene
by George Lucas

The scene that you are all referring to was intended to show Yoda in a contemplative mood, kind of like Rodin's famous sculpture 'The Thinker.' Yoda's hands are raised to his chin in thought. I can see how one might look at that scene and say that his cane would have fit in there. It's something we could have done, but that was never the intention. There was no gaffe by the visual effects crew. The cane was never in the scene.







[image=http://www.kpitv.com/images/A_E/ae_27-02.jpg]
COUNTERPOINT: If the cane isn't there, Lucas is unfair
by Johnny Cochrane

The evidence is clear: Mr. Yoda has been disenfranchised. He clearly needed his cane in this scene. As my client might put it, "When 800 years old you are, need a cane you will too." Mr. Yoda isn't contemplative, he's arthritic. His back is killing him having to sit like that without his cane.

I find it interesting that Mace Windu, Anakin Skywalker, and Obi-Wan Kenobi didn't seem to run into this problem. But, then again, none of them have green skin. I think that it is clear that there is a color barrier in that galaxy far, far away. One wonders if Kit Fisto has run into similar problems. But we are not here to speculate, ladies and gentleman. We're here to deal with the facts. My client's cane was left out or deleted because Mr. Lucas is a racist. If the cane isn't there, Lucas is unfair!

 

(in overly dramatic Charleton Heston voice from Planet of the Apes)

Darn those lazy animators!
Darn them all to hell!




"If the cane isn't there, Lucas is unfair!"

This thread is just too funny.
And it keeps getting funnier!

 

"Maybe I should talk about "bullet time". Sure. It was first presented in THE MATRIX and for the next five years set the standard for special effects. To be copied repeatedly and implimented from everything to videogames to car commercials. Perhaps Doritos too, I wouldnt doubt it. So yeah, It is something good to talk about. Thanks.

I dont watch P.Diddy. And I dont believe he himself has a video out right now. Hes played.

And treebeard is strangly slow and looks wierd because. Hes supposed to be. So by your statement the desired effect was accomplished. And I willing to bet hes slow because, um, its part of his characteristics?"



He wasn't serious when he asked you to talk about all that!

 

My client's cane was left out or deleted because Mr. Lucas is a racist

 

Sithman
"He wasnt serious when he asked you to talk about all that."

What are you, his press agent? A physic, maybe? how do you know what someone else meant? Now, predictably, the poor guy has to say he wasnt serious to stay opposed. But you figured that and thats why you said that. Its comfy over there, huh.

rsterling78
"Um, are those your words and what you THINK. Or, is that something Lucas said? Or is it both? please, explain. This is interesting to me.

Sithinterceptor
Dont you think its kinda lame to say the same thing I said but with different wording. I believe you will not warrent a response from me again. I thought you were a lil sharper than that.

 

ok then let's agree to end this destructive conflict.

does that warrant a response?

 

Yes, it does. Agreed.