PT Your Favorite Prequel Villain?

I like your sig, VLM.

 

Darth Sidious, as McDiarmid delivers a performance that is both over-the-top and yet subtle at times.

 

Palpatine/Sidious and it' not even close. only truly good performance in the entire trilogy (no disrespect to the other actors 'cause as we all know it's not their fault), and his character had a real story to him. sometimes he was overthetop in a really stupid way but eh it's at least fun to watch.

the other villains are all pretty interchangable tbh until Anakin becomes a villain.

Darth Maul: filler. has cool fighting scenes, but there is no character to him. they wrote him into the film just to have a bad guy to fight at the end.
Count Dooku: not filler. a bit more of a story and purpose in the film, but still highly underdeveloped.
General Grievous: most filler character to ever be in Star Wars. it's like they made him just to have an action scene in the middle of the film, when they could have done so many cooler and more relevant things instead. he's fun to play as in Battlefront II at least, and could have been a good EU character probably.

in my prequel rewrites there'd just be Sidious, Darth Maul, Count Dooku, and a bounty hunter/criminal of some sort (not Jango Fett/Boba Fett though). Darth Maul would be the primary villain that the Jedi protagonists fight across all three films. Count Dooku would be the face of the separatists (and would be morally grey) and even though he'd be a villain I wouldn't give him any fighting scenes. Sidious is of course the puppeteer behind it all who is most clearly important in the third film, and I'd include a criminal-underworld sub-plot involving the separatists/Sidious's hired guns.

 

My favorite movie villain of all time is this guy so I think it's safe to assume who my choice is

 

Maul, totally underutilised

 

I love Sidious as a hologram in TPM and AOTC, he looks very misterious and menacing. But then in ROTS the character was a big deception.The emperor with a saber and McDiarmid bad acting and melting face just ruined everything.

So I choose Darth Maul. Menacing, quiet and very cool visual.

 

1. Darth Sidious
2. Darth Tyranus
3. There is no third.

 

I read that as Sheev effectiveness at first...

 

Just curious, why don't you like McDiarmid's performance in ROTS? For me it's one of highlights of the saga.

 

Ian does a great job in the whole Saga (only time it reads 'off' is ESB as he wasn't originally there).

Ian's uncomfortable with the weapon. I think that makes it *better* because it highlights how brave he is. Like Cushing, he doesn't seem inclined or suited to arms which I admire.

 

- First of all, I don't like the Emperor using the lightsaber (same with Yoda). The use of Lighting makes the Emperor more powerfull, threatening and be considered superior being. I hate those grunts too. (Pic. 1).
- The "no, no, no" part its embarrissing, and all the transformation itself. (pic 2).
- The make up in ROTJ and ROTS are not the same. In ROTS its too clean and the tone of the skin its not the same. In ROTJ its more creepy, he looks rotten from inside.

Emperor ROTJ > Emperor ROTS. In acting and good looking way.

 

Messi We will have to agree to disagree. Thank you for responding though

 

I have to say Maul. Palpatine is tremendous indeed, but I already knew that from ROTJ. Ian McDiarmid's performance throughout is just diabolically stupendous!

Maul's mystery is intriguing. He only mutters a few lines and yet I believe in him so much! He's loyal, focused, powerful and dangerous...like a trained Pit Bull waiting to be let loose.

I would trade Dooku and Grievous any day for a more developed Darth Maul, not too developed though. Mystery is what makes fascinating characters and Maul could have been so glorious!?

Palpatine. 'Maul, sick balls!'

 

I agree to a certain extent. I also don't believe Palpatine or Yoda need to use a Lightsaber. My thoughts are that they have evolved to such a level of the force that the Lightsaber has become obsolete.

Yeah, the grunts? :/

The transformation...what's all that about?

The make-up I can sort of see eye to eye, but in trying to make him look younger he was never gonna look exactly the same. And McDiarmid was a lot older, dunno if that was a factor...maybe?

I think the script and the directing have a lot to answer for. The acting was never the problem. Mr Lucas is a creator. A creator should never try to define their creation...just let other people explore it!

 

I kinda feel like people are maybe forgetting how ridiculously silly McDiarmid's performance was in ROTJ. He used to make my brother and I crack up in hysterics.

Crazy face.


The way he spits "pitiful little band".

The way he way patronizes "I'm afraid the deflector shield will be quite operational".

In the PT, people have commented on his crazy sex faces when he's with Anakin. Yeah, sure, I saw it too, and it was crazy. But in ROTJ he looks like he's receiving oral sex when he says "goooood, I can feel your anger" to Luke.


More spitting, "fully armed and operational battle station". More and more. I could go on. I could keep posting pics of the hammy faces he makes. Maybe they're not as crazy as the ones he makes in the PT, but they're crazy.

And yeah, he made crazy faces while zapping Luke.




I'm not saying they're exactly the same. They're not. And I'm not saying that because you like one, you have to like the other. I can appreciate the subtleties, the differences between the two. I get it, I've said the same thing, how I prefer one thing over another thing, even though they're similar. I prefer his performance in ROTJ over that of ROTS...but I was and still am glad to have gotten more of the insanely hammy McDiarmid.

 

Palpatine: Oh, I'm afraid the deflector shield will be quite operational when your friends arrive.

The way he's says this line always cracks me up. He's trying for sweet and innocent little Palpy, but it comes out so wrong.

 

Then you must be missing the point?

Palpatine is played to the bones by McDiarmid as the ultimate pantomime and fairy-tail villain. Why else would Lucas hire him? Pure British thespian brilliance!

We're not meant to like him, but we still do!

 

Palpatine. I have never come across such a manipulating villain in my life. Ian McDiarmid was fantastic.

 

I retract that status and gives u a most humble apology... read it on the fly, agree completely!

I might be a dick, but I'm not a total dick!

 

I honestly liked how over the top Palpatine got in ROTS. Then again I am fan of fun and goofy villains.

 

I voted Sidious. I enjoyed watching how he manipulated things over the three episodes, and finally his reveal-something I was much looking forward to in ROTS.

As far as any inconsistencies in the makeup, I think the difference is great-his PT face makeup looks much more fresh and swollen, eye areas more red-all just like a fresh wound. In ROTJ, it looks much more droopy and grotesque-like major scarring that didn't age well. Which if you think about it, is exactly what it is...We have to remember, the ROTJ is over 23 years later, and at this point Palpatine is presumably in his late 80s early 90s...So it makes sense he'd look and sound more old and decrepit...

 

"Rise."

A black twisted heart of infinite darkness and evil. Sheev Palpatine forever.

 

McDiarmid seemed like he was having the time of his life ruling the galaxy lol