Discussions Your Personal Canon

Do you hate the name so much?

 

It goes against what is written about Palpatine in Darth Plagueis.

 

Right I forgot about that.

anyway for me my personal canon is basically the old republic era basically being the same. The rest is more or less the same as current canon.

 

That´s one reason yeah. But also don´t like the name, or that the emperor told Tarkin, would have prefered like Tarkin habing figured that out himself like he did with Vaders identity.

 

My personal canon is almost the same like before disney.
The 6 Movies + the original EU / + Rogue one + Solo

 

Yeah, pretty much the same here, except I haven't seen Solo.

Those sequels.... I just can't.

 

All movies, t.v. specials & EU books pre-Disney and The Clone Wars cartoons and Mandalorian

 

Tales of the Jedi
KOTOR 1 and 2
Darth Bane Trilogy
Darth Plagueis
Multimedia Project
2003 Clone Wars
ROTS novel
Battlefront 2 501 story
TFU 1 novel version
Shadows of the Empire
not Thrawn Trilogy, Dark Empire, Yuuzhan Vong ST ROTJ is the end

 

I don't have much of a "personal" Canon beyond certain ways the player-driven stories develop, like SWTOR for example, but i do consider Star Wars Legends the "main universe" with Canon being an alternate timeline that exists as parallel to the Legends world, this is mostly due to the fact that i got used to the Legendsverse being the default Expanded Universe to Star Wars.

That said, i have certain ideas of how some unfinished stories ended:

The Starkiller Clone and the Dark Apprentice fought each other after TFU II, resulting in both dying, Starkiller gives Juno a heartfelt goodbye, telling her that while he may not be the original Galen, his heart was still the same, and realized his time in the Galaxy was up and that he was too dangerous to be around, he eliminated the evil clone along with all the genetic material of the original Marek, Vader after seeing this starts thinking about what might have been had he not betrayed Padme and became more conflicted, hence why we see a lot more doubt in him during the first Empire comic and especially during his fight with the clone of Darth Maul, than in the TFU era where he seemed like pure evil.

Dass Jennir died defending his crew from Inquisitor Jerec, they managed to escape, but at the cost of his life and Bomo's, dying together like brothers in arms, to the last breath, however despite the loss of Jennir and the death of one of the last Jedi, it was revealed later that Ember was pregnant with Jennir's son, this son would later become a member of the New Jedi Order between 15-20 ABY.

I consider some "Infinities" short stories as Canon, particularly "Ghost" the story where an older Quinlan Vos meets a young Han Solo, that story was shortly before Quinlan's final death, being captured by Black Sun and handed over to Palpatine by Xizor himself, and also the "Old Wounds" story from Visionaries, minus the page detailing how Maul followed Obi-Wan through the entire trilogy, it fits perfectly, with Maul after his defeat in Son of Dathomir and seeing the inevitability of Sidious' rule (similar to TCW season 7 in Canon) he fell deeper into insanity and focused on killing Kenobi alone, tracking him down to Tatooine for one last duel, basically the same thing that happened in Rebels except earlier, after his power base broke down in shambles.

Korto Vos was a member of the New Jedi Order, we just don't see him much because he isn't that important.

And for the games with multiple choices, my personal Canon has the following:

Revan was a snarky yet well intentioned Jedi Guardian with a Green Lightsaber, some Dark Side choices like killing certain bad guys are there, he was very aggressive against Malak, and was a huge fanboy for Canderous' stories.

The Exile was Jacen Solo (NJO version) but in Old Republic Era, a Jedi Consular with a Purple blade and always choosing the most peaceful solution and a very empathic person, she didin't have any romantic relationships.

The Hero of Tython was a hardened warrior who wanted to do what's best for the Galaxy, defeating the Sith at all costs, which made him do some very questionable things, rarely sparing his enemies and being a bit too anti-Empire, he was still a good person, however, having a great friendship with Doc and T7,he never romanced Kira (because it is hella creepy) and after the lesson on Rishi, he recapacitated and was more accepting of Imperials and not as ruthless in his approach, which culminated in the war with Zakuul, where he was very fair to his Imperial followers and didin't commit war crimes, along with redeeming Arcann because he empathized with him for being manipulated by Valkorion (and at first he just wanted to aprehend him), not all his previous traits were gone, however, he was still very pragmatic, killing off Acina when he got the chance, and never outright trusting her because she was a manipulative Sith, and his antagonism with Vitiate never faltered, he believed Vaylin was beyond redemption.

The Barsen'thor was a descendant of Vima Sunrider, the most pure Jedi to ever live, always going for the most open minded approach and always risking himself to save as much people as possible, Light V character.

The leader of Havok Squad was female Shepard, and always stood in the middle of either making the hard choice for the greater good or making the morally correct choice, she couldn't sacrifice Jaxo and blamed herself for not doing the right thing, she executed Rakton herself to make up for it, yet she wasn't satisfied, she still wanted to do better after that during the Dread War, trying to make up for the countless people she left to die due to her attachment with Jaxo, she later became very close to the Jedi.

The Voidhound was a selfish bastard who made most of the Dark Side choices, always for his own benefit, didin't care for the Republic or Empire, and made his own criminal empire that later inspired Black Sun to become like that.

The Emperor's Wrath was fully loyal to the Empire, he never put his personal ambition over the well-being of the people and his Emperor, he respected Baras and felt devastated when he betrayed him, he was loyal to the Empire in it's ideals to the bitter end.

Darth Nox on the other hand, was the embodiment of the Sith Code, being raised as a slave, he understood that might makes right, he committed himself fully to Sith Ideology, following it to the letter, he didin't care for the Empire in itself, but cared to spread the truth of the Sith to the Galaxy and eliminate the weak Jedi, along with furthering his own power, what mattered the most was that he lived up to the Code and became the most powerful being in existence, he was fairly progressive with the speciesism thing, he sort of despised Sith Purebloods due to how they believed their species gave them a high position despite being weak to his eyes, for him, locking who could become Sith by species was against the Sith Code.

The Hunter was just as selfish as the Voidhound, but he always delivered in his contracts, he never betrayed his buyer, with one exception: he killed Darth Tormen, to show him how no one tells him what to do like that, and for choking his wife Mako, not out of any love for the Chancellor, he kept fighting for the Empire due to the money, but undermined them any chance he got.

Cipher Nine was very similar to Thrawn, not only due to being a Chiss, but due to his motivations.

In my Canon, the Sith Empire is either completely destroyed by the Alliance/Republic, with leftovers from the alliance merging into the Republic, or after losing, a peace treaty is made that incorporates all Imperial Citzens into the Republic, after the defeat of the Sith, the remaining Sith from the Empire exile themselves by the last ditch order of Emperor Nox and hide in a distant planet, where they end up killing each other because of internal rivalries.

If only Jaden Korr could be a Kel-Dor...

I consider the TCW material to happen between the "Dreadnoughts of Rendili" and "Trackdown" arcs of the Republic run, with the old EU timeline taking precedence for the most part but with some slight changes, not following the strict original timeline but making Anakin's Knighthood at early 20 BBY, TCW starts not 2 months after Geonosis, but during 20 BBY 2 months after Anakin is knighted in that year, and ending 6/5 months before ROTS in Season 6, resuming the later Multimedia material, and Ahsoka dies against either Vader or Tremayne later on during the Dark Times.

I include all the Classic 1977-1986 stuff and UK comics in my Legends canon, i don't know if someone don't, but there are some really interesting stories in the UK comics like Anakin facing a Dark Side ghost and going full Oneness against it because of reaching Padme's mind from the depth of his being.

Every time i read a Canon story that i feel can fit in Legends perfectly i kind of incorporate it into my Legends Canon, i guess.

The Tales comic where Han tells Anakin about the story of Luke's Hand and the Emperor's Foot is completely Canon, that is why Anakin gets so conflicted about his heritage later in the timeline.

As for Canon, the only thing is that i always assume things are like in Legends unless stated otherwise (as in the general rules of the universe and the political landscapes).

 

I know it can be quite annoying that I post posts and then ask for their cancellation, but the fact is that my personal Canon is very complex and I always come up with better ideas to explain how it works. I promise that very soon I will organize everything in a very orderly and systematic way, and I will not cancel the post that I will publish in future. But it gives me time to organize everything.

 

MY PERSONAL EXPANDED UNIVERSE CANON

Dawn of the Jedi (series)
Star Wars Omnibus: Tales of the Jedi Volume 1
Star Wars Omnibus: Tales of the Jedi Volume 2
Star Wars Omnibus: Knights of the Old Republic Volume 1
Star Wars Omnibus: Knights of the Old Republic Volume 2
Star Wars Omnibus: Knights of the Old Republic Volume 3
Knights of the Old Republic I
Knights of the Old Republic II
The Old Republic: Revan
The Old Republic: Deceived
The Old Republic: Fatal Alliance
Star Wars: The Old Republic (including trailers)
The Old Republic: Annihilation
The Old Republic: Rise of the Hutt Cartel
Jedi vs. Sith (comics)
The Darth Bane Trilogy
The Fanstory of N'Kata Del Gormo
Darth Plagueis (except the revisited origin of Darth Maul)
Jedi: The Dark Side
Jedi Apprentice (series)
Qui-Gon and Obi-Wan: The Aurorient Express/Last Stand on Ord Mantell
Maul: Lockdown
Star Wars Tales: Nameless
Jedi Council: Acts of War
Star Wars: Republic (Issues 1 to 6)
Star Wars: Darth Maul (comics)
Darth Maul: Saboteur
Cloak of Deception
Darth Maul: Shadow Hunter
The Diary of Darth Maul
Star Wars Episode I: The Phantom Menace
Bounty Hunter
Jango Fett: Open Seasons
Star Wars: Republic (Issues 7 to 49)
Rogue Planet
Jedi Quest (series)
Outbound Flight
The Approaching Storm
Star Wars Episode II: Attack of the Clones
Boba Fett (series)
The Clone Wars (2002 video game)
Republic Commando (vídeo game)
Republic Commando (novel series)
Original Clone Wars series of 2003 (until Chapter 22)
Star Wars Omnibus: Clone Wars Volume 1
Star Wars Omnibus: Clone Wars Volume 2
Star Wars Omnibus: Clone Wars Volume 3
Shatterpoint
Legacy of the Jedi
The Cestus Deception
The MedStar Duology
Yoda: Dark Rendezvous
Labyrinth of Evil
Star Wars Episode III: Revenge of the Sith
Kenobi (novel)
Dark Lord: The Rise of Darth Vader
Star Wars: Purge (comic series)
Star Wars Omnibus: Dark Times Volume 1
Star Wars Omnibus: Dark Times Volume 2
Darth Vader and the Lost Command
Darth Vader and the Ghost Prison
Darth Vader and the Ninth Assassin
Battlefront II of 2005 (only the invasion of Kamino storyline)
Coruscant Nights (series)
The Last of the Jedi (series)
The Last Jedi (novel)
Darth Vader and the Cry of Shadows
The Han Solo Trilogy
Death Star (novel)
The Force Unleashed (game and novel)
Star Wars: Dark Forces
Star Wars Tales: Resurrection
Star Wars: Lethal Alliance
The Life and Legend of Obi-Wan Kenobi
Star Wars Episode IV: A New Hope
Scoundrels
Rebel Force (series)
The Original Marvel Run
(Issues 57 to 63)
The Original Marvel Run (Issues 65 and 88)
The Original Marvel Run (Issues 95 to 97)
The Original Marvel Run (Issues 100 and 107)
Allegiance
Choices of One
Empire/Rebellion (series)
Star Wars Episode V: The Empire Strikes Back
Shadows of the Empire
Mara Jade: By the Emperor's Hand
Rise and Fall of Darth Vader
Star Wars Episode VI: Return of the Jedi
The Truce at Bakura
Jedi Knight: Dark Forces II
The X-Wing series
The Courtship of Princess Leia
Tatooine Ghost
The Thrawn Trilogy
The Jedi Academy Trilogy
Jedi Academy: Leviathan
Jedi Outcast
Jedi Knight: Jedi Academy
The Hand of Thrawn Duology
Star Wars: Union
Junior Jedi Knights (series)
Young Jedi Knights (series)
The New Jedi Order (series)/Invasion (comics)
The Dark Nest Trilogy
Legacy (series)

Lore Books:
The New Essential Chronology
The Complete Star Wars Encyclopedia
The Essential Atlas (except TCW references)
The Book of Sith (except TCW references)
The Old Republic Encyclopedia
Jedi vs. Sith: The Essential Guide to the Force

MY PERSONAL CANON OF DISNEY'S MEDIA

The High Republic media (present and future)
Dooku: Jedi Lost
Master & Apprentice
Star Wars: Darth Maul (Canon comic series)
Queen's Peril
Star Wars Episode I: The Phantom Menace
Queen's Shadow
Obi-Wan and Anakin (series)
Age of Republic (series)
Choose Your Destiny: An Obi-Wan & Anakin Adventure
Star Wars Episode II: Attack of the Clones
Jedi of the Republic - Mace Windu (series)
The Clone Wars: Wild Space
Star Wars: The Clone Wars (movie)
The Clone Wars: Season 1
The Clone Wars: Republic Heroes (video game)
The Clone Wars: No Prisoners
Star Wars: The Clone Wars (webcomic series)
The Clone Wars: Season 2
The Clone Wars: Season 3 (episodes 1 to 9)
Forces of Destiny: "Teach You, I Will"
Forces of Destiny: "Ahsoka & Padme"
Forces of Destiny: "The Imposter Inside"
Forces of Destiny: "Unexpected Company"
Forces of Destiny: "The Starfighter Stunt"
Forces of Destiny: "The Padawan Path"
The Clone Wars: Season 3 (episodes 10 to 22, except the Arc of Mortis)
The Clone Wars: Season 4
The Clone Wars: Season 5
The Clone Wars: Crystal Crisis on Utapau
Darth Maul: Son of Dathomir
Dark Disciple
The Clone Wars: Season 6 (except the Arc of Yoda)
The Clone Wars: Season 7
Star Wars Episode III: Revenge of the Sith
Ahsoka (novel; new version)
The Bad Batch
Catalyst (novel)
Darth Vader: Dark Lord of the Sith (except for issues published from 2020 onwards)
Lords of the Sith
Solo: A Star Wars Story
Tarkin (novel)
Star Wars Jedi: Fallen Order
Rebel Rising
Obi-Wan Kenobi series (possibly)
A New Down (novel)
Battlefront: Twilight Company
Star Wars Rebels: Season 1
Star Wars Rebels: Season 2 (episodes 1 to 9)
Leia, Princess of Alderaan
Star Wars Rebels: Season 2 (episodes 10 to 20)
Forces of Destiny: "A Disarming Lesson"
Star Wars Rebels: Season 2 (episodes 21-22)
Star Wars Rebels: Season 3
Vader - Dark Visions (series)
Rogue One: A Star Wars Story
Star Wars Episode IV: A New Hope
Doctor Aphra (novel)
Doctor Aphra (2016 comic series)
Star Wars: Darth Vader (series)
Star Wars Episode V: The Empire Strikes Back
Star Wars Rebels: Sacrifice (my fanstory on the final fate of Star Wars Rebels characters)
Doctor Aphra (2020 comic series)
Star Wars Episode VI: Return of the Jedi
The Mandalorian: Season 2 (until Chapter 13)
The Mandalorian: Chapter 13 (my rewritten version)
The Mandalorian: Season 2 (until Chapter 16)
The Mandalorian: Chapter 17 (my fanstory that concludes the series)
The Aftermath Trilogy
Bloodline (novel)
Poe Dameron (comic series)
Fhasma (novel)
The Force Awakens (novelization)
The Rise of the First Order (my rewritten versión of The Last Jedi)
Redemption and Liberation (my rewritten versión of The Rise of Skywalker)

LAJ edit - post updated at user's request

 

@Anakin Solo Skywalker
What are episodes VIII and IX in your canon?

 

In the two Expanded Universe Canons there is obviously no Sequel Trilogy, in fact in the Second EU Canon there is not even a Prequel Trilogy but there are only the novelizations. On the other hand, in the two Canons based on Disney's material, Episodes 8 and 9 are not the originals but are my rewritten versions. The only film in the Sequel Trilogy that remains as It is, is Episode 7.

 

For me Canon is the entire pre-2014 continuity minus Filoni's Clone Wars and all it's derivatives. Ahsoka, Rex, etc. they never existed to me. I prefer to keep my reference books pre-2008 if I can for this reason. The real Clone Wars is the multimedia project Clone Wars.

Then add Rogue One and the first season of the Mandalorian. The second season I consider S-canon, just like the original marvel comics. All the rest of the Disney stuff is non-canon to me.

Oh and I think TOR pretty much ruined the story of the KotOR games (pretty inevitable with MMOs sadly), so I don't consider that and its tie-in novels canon either.

 

I have noticed that in my list I have made some keyboard errors, these errors could lead some readers to think wrong things, so I will clarify them.

These two things are part of the same line, but for some strange reason they did not come out as part of the same line but as two different lines. But they are part of the same line and should have come out next to each other in the same line.

In my personal Disney media continuity I also accept Season One of The Mandalorian, but I forgot to include it on my list and it didn’t come out.

 

Rereading this thread I noticed that many people prefer to ignore the existence of SWTOR and take into consideration only the KOTOR comics, KOTOR I and KOTOR II. Personally I do not agree with this choice. But, despite of this, I would still like to ask a question on this issue. Ignoring the existence of SWTOR and stopping at KOTOR II, does not make the story incomplete? I mean, if you ignore SWTOR, what happens to the Sith Emperor? What happens to the occult Sith Empire on Dromund Kass? It was the Sith Emperor who turned Revan and Malak, I don’t think that’s something you can ignore.

 

i forget posted on here before

 

If one ignores Swtor it would have to be replaced by something else that concludes those plot threads, as it is not as if Swtor Came in as an extension of an already finished story.

I think the people that chose to ignore Swtor for their personal Canon is because they don't like how the plotlines gets continued, not the continuation itself.

And for me, i like how Swtor does it, i like Swtor itself and what it does to the universe, i wouldn't like to replace it for a boring "Revan wins" storyline for anything in the world.

 

I agree with you. I’m one of those few people who think that SWTOR has not ruined the character of Revan, in fact, in my opinion SWTOR has made Revan even cooler than it already was in KOTOR games. I just hope that for my statements, someone doesn’t decide to crucify me XD.
Anyway, I think pretending that SWTOR does not exist and not including it in your personal Canon is a very respectable thing, because those who do it then must imagine and write everything that happens after the KOTOR games, while those who accept SWTOR already have a sequel to refer to, and do not have to write or imagine it on their own.

 

After some reflections, I realized that it’s better to permanently eliminate the New Canon from my personal Star Wars universe. So, I decided to write a new post with all the updates about this theme.

This is my updated list:

Dawn of the Jedi (series)
Tales of the Jedi (comics)
Knights of the Old Republic (comics)
Knights of the Old Republic I
Knights of the Old Republic II
The Old Republic: Revan
The Old Republic: Deceived
The Old Republic: Fatal Alliance
Star Wars: The Old Republic (including trailers and future expansions)
The Old Republic (comics)
The Old Republic: Annihilation
Knight Errant (comics)/Knight Errant (novel)
Jedi vs. Sith (comics)
The Darth Bane Trilogy
The Fanstory of N'Kata Del Gormo
Darth Plagueis (except the revisited origin of Darth Maul)
Jedi: The Dark Side
Jedi Apprentice (series)
Qui-Gon and Obi-Wan: The Aurorient Express
Qui-Gon and Obi-Wan: Last Stand on Ord Mantell
Maul: Lockdown
Star Wars Tales: Nameless
Jedi Council: Acts of War
Star Wars: Republic (from issue 1 to 6)
Star Wars: Darth Maul (comics)
Darth Maul: Saboteur
Cloak of Deception
Darth Maul: Shadow Hunter
The Journal of Darth Maul
Star Wars Episode I: The Phantom Menace
Bounty Hunter
Jango Fett: Open Seasons
Star Wars: Republic (from issue 7 to 49)
Rogue Planet
Jedi Quest (series)
Outbound Flight
The Approaching Storm
Star Wars Episode II: Attack of the Clones
Young Boba Fett (series)
Republic Commando (video game)
Republic Commando: Hard Contact
Clone Wars Adventures (comics)
Galactic Battlegrounds: Clone Campaigns (video game)
The Clone Wars (2002 video game)
Star Wars: Republic (from issue 50 to 83)
The original Clone Wars series of 2003 (until Chapter 22)
Jedi: Mace Windu
Jedi: Shaak Ti
Jedi: Aayla Secura
Shatterpoint
Legacy of the Jedi
Jedi: Count Dooku
The New Droid Army (video game)
Republic Commando: Triple Zero
The Cestus Deception
Jedi: Yoda
Republic Commando: True Colors
The MedStar Duology
Star Wars: General Grievous (comics)
Yoda: Dark Rendezvous
Jedi Trial
Star Wars: Obsession (comics)
Star Wars: Brothers in Arms
Labyrinth of Evil
Star Wars Episode III: Revenge of the Sith
Republic Commando: Order 66
Kenobi (novel)
Dark Lord: The Rise of Darth Vader
Star Wars: Purge (comic series)
Star Wars: Dark Times (comics)
Darth Vader and the Lost Command
Darth Vader and the Ghost Prison
Darth Vader and the Ninth Assassin
Battlefront II of 2005 (only the invasion of Kamino storyline)
Coruscant Nights (series)
The Last of the Jedi (series)
The Last Jedi (novel)
Darth Vader and the Cry of Shadows
The Han Solo Trilogy
Death Star (novel)
The Force Unleashed (game and novel)
Star Wars: Dark Forces
Star Wars Tales: Resurrection
Star Wars: Lethal Alliance
Star Wars: Extinction (comics)
The Life and Legend of Obi-Wan Kenobi
Star Wars Episode IV: A New Hope
Scoundrels
Rebel Force (series)
Allegiance
Choices of One
Empire/Rebellion (series)
Star Wars Episode V: The Empire Strikes Back
Shadows of the Empire
Mara Jade: By the Emperor's Hand
Rise and Fall of Darth Vader
Star Wars Episode VI: Return of the Jedi
The Truce at Bakura
Luke Skywalker and the Shadows of Mindor
Jedi Knight: Dark Forces II
The X-Wing series
The Courtship of Princess Leia
Tatooine Ghost
The Thrawn Trilogy/Ghosts of the Force (Fanfiction)
The Jedi Academy Trilogy
The Black Fleet Crisis Trilogy
Jedi Academy: Leviathan
Jedi Outcast
Jedi Knight: Jedi Academy
The Hand of Thrawn Duology
Star Wars: Union
Junior Jedi Knights (series)
Young Jedi Knights (series)
The New Jedi Order (series)/Invasion (comics)
Legacy (series)

LORE BOOKS:

The New Essential Chronology
The Complete Star Wars Encyclopedia
The New Essential Guide to Alien Species
The Essential Atlas (except TCW references)
The Jedi Path (except TCW references)
The Book of Sith (except TCW references)
The Old Republic Encyclopedia
Jedi vs. Sith: The Essential Guide to the Force

Although I initially liked the idea of a Star Wars multiverse, I later realized that this is a bad idea, and that there should be only one Star Wars universe with a single timeline. However, I still like most of the TV shows and films created by present day Lucasfilm. So, I figured out a way for them to fit into the Expanded Universe timeline without contradicting anything. My idea is very simple and is the following:
Rogue One, Solo, TCW, The Bad Batch, Rebels, The Mandalorian etc, are all holofilms and holoshows created by the Galactic Alliance after the end of the Yuuzhan Vong War, during the period of the Galactic reconstruction. The real history of what happened during the Clone Wars and the Imperial Era is told in the Expanded Universe books and comics, while the TV series and films mentioned above are entertainment products created within the Galaxy itself, to tell in a funny and fictionalized way the events of the Galactic history. This of course also applies to all future New Canon series and films that will be created by Disney in the next years. The protagonist characters of the aforementioned TV shows and films also existed in the real Star Wars universe, however their biographies have been modified and distorted. For example, Ahsoka Tano really existed and was really a Jedi padawan during the Clone Wars, however she wasn't Anakin Skywalker's padawan, but Plo Koon's padawan. Captain Rex also existed, but he was not part of the 501st Legion, he was an ARC trooper who fought in Plo Koon’s 401st Battalion. Savage Opress is Darth Maul’s brother, but his story Is a bit different. After finding out the whole truth about what happened to his brother and discovering that his brother was killed on Naboo by a Jedi, he began to hate the Jedi and swear revenge against them. Dooku discovered Savage, and used his thirst for revenge against the Jedi and the Republic to turn him into one of his Dark Acolytes (along with Ventress and the other Acolytes we saw in the Republic comics and in the rest of the Multimedia Project content). And So on and so forth.
This way we can have a single stable timeline for the Star Wars universe, and at the same time still be able to enjoy the new TV series and new films, without having to worry about creating alternate timelines or trying to smooth out the contradictions between these media and the Expanded Universe.

I don’t take into consideration the novels set between the New Jedi Order series and the Legacy comics. In my personal Canon that period was a very different period from what we saw in the Legacy of the Force series and the Fate of the Jedi series. Jacen never fall to the Dark Side (and in fact become one of the members of the Jedi Council), there was never a Second Galactic Civil War, and Abeloth and Lumiya never existed. I am currently working on creating my own version of the post-NJO/pre-Legacy events. In my version there are some characters from the Disney’s Sequel Trilogy, but with substantial modifications. Rey is Jaina Solo’s apprentice and will be the first Imperial Knight, as well as an ancestor of Treis Sinde. Kylo Ren has nothing to do with the Skywalker family, but he’s a distant descendant of Skere Kaan, who created a sect of Dark Side users inspired by the Brotherhood of Darkness: the Knights of Ren. The Knights of Ren are Dark Side users and hate the Jedi, but at the same time they also hate the Sith and the Rule of Two introduced by Darth Bane, and intend to carry on the legacy of the Brotherhood of Darkness. They have created an Empire in the Unknown Regions (called the Empire of Darkness), and at some point they will come out launching a massive invasion against the Galactic Alliance. Poe Dameron is a pilot of the Galactic Alliance, and is a Yuuzhan Vong who fights daily against the discriminations of the rest of the Galaxy’s inhabitants. Finn, on the other hand, is a dissident from the Empire of Darkness’ Armed Forces, who defected and fled shortly after the start of the war against the Galactic Alliance. All of this events take place in 44 ABY. Before 44 ABY there was absolute peace, and it’s precisely during this period of peace that the TV series and the films I mentioned earlier were created in the Galaxy as holofilms and holoshows.

For those interested in reading the Fanfiction called “Ghosts of the Force” I mentioned in my list, it is available here: https://www.fanfiction.net/s/245059...Ae9qkvc9tPmXbmGSwX5s-1635952163-0-gaNycGzNCZE
I introduced it in my personal Canon because it doesn’t seem to contradict the Thrawn Trilogy, and also because in my opinion it's so damn good! It contradicts Dark Empire, but I honestly don’t care since the Dark Empire Trilogy doesn’t exist for me.

 

I've been going through the prehistory of the Expanded Universe (pre-Thrawn), since I was fascinated with the theory that stories contemporary to the original trilogy could still become part of the larger canon. Obviously the largest part of this is the Marvel Comics.

To my surprise, there's plenty of story arcs that fit well in keeping up a continuous story between the films. I don't remember the issues offhand, but one of the earlier issues deals with Han losing his reward from Leia, thus explaining the plot hole in Empire where Han's reward is unaccounted for and he's still hunted by Jabba. It's also shown that Han then chooses to stay with the Alliance after briefly stepping out on his own.

The Valance the Hunter stories may start as filler, but they go on to explain an important point of Empire Strikes Back; Vader's discovery of who destroyed the Death Star. Thus, I consider it an essential part of my canon.

Furthermore, I also include the issues that detail the evacuation of Yavin. Basically anything that expands on the film and helps explain the transition from film to film.

Another great story arc is the Star Wars Weekly story regarding how Leia first received combat training from Giles Durane. While it's not a plot hole to assume Leia's combat background in the films despite hailing from a world with no weapons, I think this story does a good job of expanding on the concept.

In the middle, there's plenty of "filler" stories that don't add or detract from the films; the characters simply end up in the same place that they started. Which is not without merit; these smaller arcs help fill out the grand story and stress that this is indeed a war without much downtime. I find the time between ANH and ESB offers plenty of openings for these stories. But if we're taking the movies at face value, Han mentions in Empire that Luke owes him for saving him at the Death Star trench run and on Hoth... so naturally there's a limit on Luke and Han stories. The Rebel Mission to Ord Mantell also helps fill in some gaps leading up to Empire Strikes Back (and explaining that one-off line).

Then at the other end of the spectrum, there's stories that just don't fit nicely with the movies. I have no issue discounting these arcs, because the comic even conflicts with itself at times, so I say take what works. There's a few examples of Luke's father being mentioned as being a different person from Vader in situations where there's little room for artistic liberty. The comics also assumed Luke found his lightsaber soon after losing his hand. This was later proven to NOT be the case. There's even a story where Han pays off his debts with Jabba... just to have the bounty put immediately back on his head. Great story, but not great writing to immediately walk back on story decisions like that.

Also, it's inferred that Luke finally confronts Vader again in Empire Strikes Back after Obi-Wan's death on the Death Star. Thus I'm also discounting the comics where Luke meets Vader in the meantime. Even Splinter of the Mind's Eye, which was based on an early concept by Lucas, doesn't fit nicely in that sense. To me, this story feels like the conclusion of the pre-ESB canon before the second film helped solidify the tone and trajectory of the franchise. Maybe this is more subjective, but the Holiday Special also doesn't quite vibe with my marathons (the only major inconsistency is Han and Chewie not knowing Boba Fett). Generally, I'm also opposed to the group returning to Tatooine before Return of the Jedi.

This might be unique to me, but I also can't accept many stories between Empire and Jedi. It just runs contrary to the movies to put so much filler in between (whereas the last movie gap was very open-ended). What I mean is that Empire ends with the heroes talking about rendezvousing on Tatooine. Jedi opens with the heroes rendezvousing on Tatooine. There's many great stories in between, but it doesn't feel natural at all for them to abandon their primary objective and partake in multiple side quests. Maybe the modern EU handles this era better.

Speaking of modern EU, while I haven't worked my way up to it yet, I can say from my studies of the retro comics that there's plenty of holes ripe to be filled in. The transition to Hoth was done sloppily in the comics (through no fault of their own) because they were given no insider info before the Empire Strikes Back comic adaptation. The Rebels were still scouting for a new base and then boom, next issue they have a fully operational base on Hoth with only the opening crawl. It's like the polar opposite of how beautifully the 2D Clone Wars took us directly up to Revenge of the Sith. Also, the treatment of supporting characters stands to be improved from the movies. The early comics did a wonderful job of expanding General Dodonna's role. But once he was dropped from Empire, he was dropped from the comics. General Rieekan stepped up to fill a similar leadership role, was prominently expanded upon in comics, and then disappeared once his character was dropped from Jedi. For better or worse, I know the EU at least treats every bit character like they're the main character with astounding lore.

Anyways, that's my thoughts for now as I'm going through the EU in exact chronological order to determine the smoothest line of continuity that compliments the original six saga films. I just wanted to throw my thoughts out there, but I'll eventually have exact issues and an order.

 

One thing I'm weary of in expanded content is the presence of post-ANH Jedi. Return of the Jedi really stresses that Luke was the last of the Jedi, and it has that much more weight when there's no backup plans (unless you count Leia). The majority of Jedi were killed in the initial Order 66 attacks. But Revenge of the Sith infers that plenty were able to escape after Obi-Wan recalibrated the beacon to warn them of the rise of the Empire. But of those survivors, Obi-Wan explains in ANH that Vader largely wiped them out in the early years of the Empire after meticulously tracking them down. Many would have aged out as well. Is it plausible that some Jedi could have simply remained in hiding? Perhaps, but why muddy the timeline if it's not crucial to the main Skywalker plotline?

I get that it's hard to jump mediums like that, I actually have the same issues with the original Clone Wars cartoon. It's a fantastic addition to the films story wise, but the action scenes are too ridiculously over-the-top to be taken at face value. Basically, the events happened, but not exactly as they were portrayed.

Even certain visual details I'm willing to overlook, like if a character doesn't have the right appearance. For instance, certain comics had Luke and Leia rocking their ANH outfits YEARS after the events of the film.