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Senate Misogyny, Entitlement, and Pop Culture

Discussion in 'Community' started by Heero_Yuy, May 29, 2014.

  1. anakinfansince1983

    anakinfansince1983 Skywalker Saga/LFL/YJCC Manager star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    There is a version of that for mothers of sons, which can be summed up as "If I don't like you, I will make you go away."

    I admit the sentiment is tempting. But the meme is spot-on.
     
  2. SateleNovelist11

    SateleNovelist11 Force Ghost star 6

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    That's why I deleted the Twitter accounts I created in 2010 and 2013 about a week after creating them.
     
  3. a star war

    a star war Force Ghost star 5

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    Sometimes I have things to say that aren't, and then I use Twitter.
     
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  4. anakinfansince1983

    anakinfansince1983 Skywalker Saga/LFL/YJCC Manager star 10 Staff Member Manager

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  5. DantheJedi

    DantheJedi Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    One of the killings was in Michigan? Holy flurking schnit! An old female classmate I keep in touch with on Facebook is a runner, and is married with children. I hope she's heard of this and is careful.
     
  6. SateleNovelist11

    SateleNovelist11 Force Ghost star 6

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    I hope she is, too.
     
  7. Rogue_Ten

    Rogue_Ten Chosen One star 7

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    interesting rando blog article about my favorite fantasy series, the Malazan Book of the Fallen and how the anthropologists that wrote it logically arrived at a gender egalitarian but nonetheless medieval world by examining the effect that the widespread practice of healing magic would have on a society's development

     
  8. Ender Sai

    Ender Sai Chosen One star 10

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    I found that series really hard to get into, pace wise, but I do recall there being NDB about any of the Bridgeburners, Assassins or the Empress being women. Or the mages guild, though I can't recall much there.

    Basically it's not Terry Goodkind, and we ought be grateful..
     
  9. Talos of Atmora

    Talos of Atmora Force Ghost star 5

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    Ah, I recall having read this. Yes, it's quite interesting given how the advancement of medicine had this exact effect on many societies. Good stuff.
     
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  10. Rogue_Ten

    Rogue_Ten Chosen One star 7

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    its really ****ing good, dude. you're missing out. i never reread books (too much new stuff i want to read) but im only 5 books into this series and ive already decided i want to go back and reread the ones thus far.

    but how far did you get? the first book deffo is hard to get into. the outright refusal to handhold the reader in a super complex world with a really abstract magic system makes it pretty confusing/daunting. also he took a creative writing course between the first two books and became a better writer (not a joke, it's true). so if you just couldnt make it through Gardens of the Moon, id say give it another shot or even skip it and go straight to book two (Deadhouse Gates), which is amazing, (and i think would be right up your alley, actually) and come back to book one when you've got your sea-legs. i hear tell online that some people have started with book two and didnt have any problems. if you made it to book two and still have this opinion then i dunno what to tell you except that you're wrong :p

    another option is starting with the newest book in the shared world, Ian Cameron Esslemont's prequel Dancer's Lament, which is supposedly much more approachable than Gardens of the Moon, and im told has been well received by newcomers and hardcore fans alike (haven't read it yet tho)
     
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  11. Talos of Atmora

    Talos of Atmora Force Ghost star 5

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    Are Terry Goodkind novels as bad as people say? I've never read any of them.
     
  12. Rogue_Ten

    Rogue_Ten Chosen One star 7

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    they sound godawful so ive always avoided them like the plague

    i know he eventually faked his fanbase out by pretending to write a book set in the present day but then whoops oh it's actually set in the same universe as my old series and continues that story :p

    which i suppose is a thing that terrys are wont to do
     
  13. Darth Nave

    Darth Nave Jedi Master star 4

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    I get that, and it's technically true, but I find it hypocritical that Twitter does not ban people for saying stuff like #KillAllMen and BLM supporters taking about killing cops. IMO there is a left wing bias on Twitter. Either both conservatives/libertarians and liberals/progressives can say that kind of thing or neither can.
     
  14. KnightWriter

    KnightWriter Administrator Emeritus star 9 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    What would you like to say that you currently cannot, and/or what do you think people should be able to say that they currently are unable to?
     
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  15. Darth Nave

    Darth Nave Jedi Master star 4

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    I just want everybody to be able to express their opinions regardless of how retrograde they may be. Like Tommy Smothers said, "The only valid censorship of ideas is the right of other people not no listen" (not saying harassment is acceptable. Heck I'm as libertarian as it gets and I think that we should at least have the same basic policing of the Internet as we do in real life. Like, doxxing should have a stricter punishment). People will never not hold backwards ass beliefs, and it's better they be put out in the open to be mocked.
     
  16. KnightWriter

    KnightWriter Administrator Emeritus star 9 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Are you someone who may find themselves the target of harassment, threats, physical violence, etc.? Or are you someone who can effectively advocate for complete freedom at no risk to yourself?
     
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  17. a star war

    a star war Force Ghost star 5

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    Okay but
     
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  18. Ender Sai

    Ender Sai Chosen One star 10

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    So, really, really selfish?
     
  19. Darth Nave

    Darth Nave Jedi Master star 4

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    [​IMG]
     
  20. Valairy Scot

    Valairy Scot Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    So folks should be free to harass and threaten others in the name of your supposed freedom? Where would YOU draw the line, if you would at all?
     
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  21. KnightWriter

    KnightWriter Administrator Emeritus star 9 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Darth Nave

    Please answer my question(s). Distractions are understandable, but ultimately just another way of avoiding the issues.
     
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  22. Darth Nave

    Darth Nave Jedi Master star 4

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    When a person's life is threatened by the actions of another.
     
  23. Valairy Scot

    Valairy Scot Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    What if threats and harassment were so severe that a person began to live in fear and suspicion of all those around him/her? Threats to track so-and-so down and kill them because of _________(and to be clear, I mean possibly credible threats, as in against a well known person who could be easily identified in public or whose private information, like an address, could be found)?
     
  24. Darth Nave

    Darth Nave Jedi Master star 4

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    To answer your questions:

    1). There is nothing that I or others can't do that we should be able to do. Like I said in my previous post, I believe that where it crosses the line is where a person threatens another persons life. I've been called unsavory names on the internet before, but ultimately they were just that: words. They caused no harm to my physical well-being.
    2). I have been subjected to name calling on Facebook, but that was something I brought on myself. If I continue to behave in a respectable manner then I see myself at no risk.
    3). Since I maintain an air of anonymity on most sites I visit, I see myself advocating for freedom to a largely riskless affair.
     
  25. Ender Sai

    Ender Sai Chosen One star 10

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    You're a white male, right Nave?
     
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