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YVH droids vs. Dark Troopers?

Discussion in 'Literature' started by IAmTheDarkSide, Jan 10, 2002.

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  1. Valiento

    Valiento Jedi Knight star 7

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    Don't fall for the bigger is better fallacy.

    As for the stats in the game, they are pretty accurate. infact the dark troopers in the game are weaker than the models that kyle took out, and made of shoddier material.

    But like most things, cheaper is better. Expensive toys are overkill. If someone can outswamp someones big expensive toy with a bunch of weaker units, than they are better.

    Look at the empire, they always preached bigger is better. But rebels with shoddy and weak weapons won practically everytime. Or escaped with most important aspects of there rebellion alive.

    A it is a fallacy to believe bigger is better. It all depends on how someone uses what they have.
     
  2. PrinceXizor

    PrinceXizor Former TF.N Foreign Book Cover Staff star 5 VIP

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    "A it is a fallacy to believe bigger is better. It all depends on how someone uses what they have."

    Better not take this out of context... :p
     
  3. Valiento

    Valiento Jedi Knight star 7

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    Heh Heh.
     
  4. Mateo

    Mateo Jedi Padawan star 4

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    The DarkTrooper project was never ended even after Kyle Katarn killed Mohc, Remember Luke and Kam Solusar were forced to destroy an entire army of DarkTroopers on Ossus in DE2?

    I think Emperor Palpatine kept the project going on Byss or Balmorra and improved the Darktroopers but he didnt want another screwup like Mohc to cause the loss of them all again so he had Umak Leth and other people work on them in secret.
     
  5. Valiento

    Valiento Jedi Knight star 7

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    Those darktroopers are the troopers that useally use the battle armor(according to the rebellion ingame encyclapedia, and GBG manual, and strat guide). But for somereason that day they were just using reguler stormtrooper armor. Most likely cause the bulky stuff wouldn't work on there ship.
     
  6. KansasNavy

    KansasNavy Jedi Master star 4

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    There's a differance between the droid Dark Troopers and the soldier rank ( or whatever it is ) of Darktrooper.

    If you read Essential Guide to Droids' sections of Dark Troopers and SDs, it'll describe what I seem unable to tell you. An SD is essentially a DT down the road. It uses the same programming for it's AI in the SD-5 and -6, and by the time the SD10 is introduced, it is the most advanced wardroid ever (at the time). It is much smarter than everything except maybe Shadowdroids. It's technology is top-of-the-line.
    It was designed by a the Balmorra as a tool to lift the reins of Imperial control. The SD10 the Empire wanted was a SD9 with an added conc miss launcher.
    But the Balmorra overloaded it with advanced AI, cutting-edge armors and shielding, and additional weaponry. So if it's so cutting edge 6 years after ROTJ, why would a DT be superior? Balmorra already had access to the DT trooper files. Why would they create a line of inferior and expensive line of wardroids? Especially wardroids that they would use to rebel againt Imperial rule.

    Hmmm...
     
  7. Valiento

    Valiento Jedi Knight star 7

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    Just a thought but in Star Wars: Rebellion Dark Troopers had the same attack power as a viper-Automaton. Higher Defense than a viper Automoton, and Very high anti-bombardment strength than a viper automaton, ;), :D.

    I don't care if you believe that it is just a game, ;), :D. Wallace, agreed when I mentioned that encyclapedia information within Rebellion is official part of continuity, and he said most games are. So Ha, ;).

    As for the sd-9 and 10, they were considered new because they use laser-reflective shielding.

    Dark troopers already had that incorporated into there phrik systems, according to dark forces game.
     
  8. Matthew Trias

    Matthew Trias Force Ghost star 6

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    Here's some interesting info...the IG series droid is slightly more advanced then a phase 3 Dark trooper.

    Better armor etc etc
     
  9. Valiento

    Valiento Jedi Knight star 7

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    Yep, those were some cool droids, that's why IG-88 is in the movies, ;).
     
  10. Valiento

    Valiento Jedi Knight star 7

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    Turns out that YVH, or only slightly more powerful than a Darktrooper phase 3(only a few points), according to the stats from the NJO sourcebook compared to the the stats in the the rebel era sourcebook.

    Still turned out that the dark troopers have better armor by a few points. But the YVH have stronger weapons by just a few points. Beyond that they are about equal.

    Though IG-88 still outclasses both.
     
  11. Alion_Sangre

    Alion_Sangre Jedi Padawan star 4

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    We can argue all we want to about who has the better weapons and armor or the most advanced programming. Here's my take:

    The Phase 3 DT is an EXOSUIT, meaning there is a living operator inside. I'll take a thinking soldier with good old-fashioned guts and fortitude over a computer. An army of YVH droids might be good for a shock assault against Vong starships and worlds, but when you want the job done just right, you need a person on the scene. I'd love to see an updated DT made for NR soldiers - or better yet, the Jedi [face_laugh]

    (Mara Jade Skywalker storms up to Nom Anor encased in a four-meter tall DT powersuit bristling with weapons and ignites a giant three-meter lightsaber)

    "Now you're mine, you little squirt."

    (Mara fires up her jetpack and goes screaming up into the air before dropping down and smashing Nom Anor into a puddle of protoplasm)
     
  12. Valiento

    Valiento Jedi Knight star 7

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    ROTFLOL, good one.

    Though, Just to clarify, while a phase 3 can function as an exo-suit, it also can function by itself as a battledroid.(I'm not sure if the sourcebook gives stats by itself or with a person though.)
     
  13. KansasNavy

    KansasNavy Jedi Master star 4

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    The NJO sourcebook has a bad illustration of the YVH-series. Don't really look like the YVH on the back of the SbS cover.

     
  14. Alion_Sangre

    Alion_Sangre Jedi Padawan star 4

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    There's a YVH on the SBS cover? Thought that was a skeleton.
     
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