Why does WNU still exist?

Why is it that the paradigm for this discussion has to be whether people find something "pointless" or "useless"? Something can be useful and yet if it isn't serving the purpose it is intended for then it is a fair question to be asked about in regards to continuing to put resources into it. Yes there have been multiple discussions over the years in how to make WNU more useful, and yet by most metrics there has been no change despite all that has been done.

Multiple times over the last few years both the JC and FF have consolidated forums that no longer serve a useful purpose. And as I am yet to see anyone actually refute the soft numbers I posted above or provide a solid off-set to that, how can a stand be made to keep a forum open that is for all intents and purposes a secondary community forum rather than one that is based upon the new users? It is fair to question pumping multiple resources into that forum when as more than one person has pointed out that the issue with people feeling unwelcomed on the boards is primarily isolated to a single forum, which as the largest forum on the boards is where it makes more sense to put the resources to work. Obfuscating the issue by turning it into a question of people's personal opinions on whether the forum has a point does nothing to address either of the above issues and is unfair to all involved.

 

At least one other person has mentioned the JCC as the issue when it comes to new users feeling unwelcome and really, I'm not sure how anyone can expect a forum dedicated to making people feel welcome is ever going to prepare some random 14-year-old for the JCC. A more effective solution might be a JCC specific welcome/orientation thread within the JCC (similar to the old JCC guide for better posting).

I don't think anyone is suggesting that we actively make the boards less welcoming, only that WNU is no longer a good way to welcome new people and turn them into permanent members of our communities.

 

WNU is as useful as a No Spoilers Allowed forum.

 

My two cents:

The people who use WNU like it and have no issue with it.

None of you guys go into WNU or actively participate in it (at all, in some cases), so why bother if it's not hurting you? I'm not a big fan of WNU, since I never needed it when I registered back in the day, however, a good majority of the newer people go to it and like it. Yes, I understand your point about how right now it is a bit pointless seeing as we don't have "new users," but WNU is still active with posters, yes? If it was completely dead, I'd understand and back you. However, it's not. Once we move, it'll serve its purpose again since we'll have new users.

Bottom line, as much as I love you guys, it's really just coming across like you guys are bored and want something to complain about.

 

Or just make the YJCC more welcoming. Like I said... it's like a clique full of real name (not user name) usage and sarcastic references to inside jokes.

As I said earlier, I am one of those users who never saw the need for a Welcome New Users forum... but as I also said, it's not hurting anyone, and if it is helpful for some new users (especially when we can get new users again), leave it up. So I agree.

 

Or just take some time to lurk and get the knack of the place. It's usually a good policy.

I've just taken a look at some major social threads outside JCC, and in practically they all eventually start using real names and referencing past jokes. It's a reality, and not something you can (or must) enforce (although a "Banned for saying Dave instead of JoinTheSchwarz" usernote would be hilarious).

 

I notice you don't refute the fact that the WNU forum isn't able to do this.

The JCC isn't a welcoming place to jump right into, but removing the use of real names and inside jokes would be detrimental to the close knit feeling the JCC offers. These things do not make it impossible for someone new to become a part of the community, there's just a little bit of a learning curve. I was new to the JCC once and every moment I spent trying to figure out who was who and what the hell YSLCATGOT meant were worth it.

 

Particularly since the 2nd half of my username is my actual last name. As for the rest of it, I couldn't agree more.


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I assume you guys did notice the "" I used... haha. My observations were just that... observations of how the YJCC could appear / feel to a new (or even relatively new) user. None of it has actually bothered me personally.

 

Hey guys.
How's it going?
We set a date for the WNU closure yet?

 

Do you intend to keep it for after the boards move? If so is it that big a deal to keep it open?

 

So another set of JC'ers get their own anti-JCC or whatever. I don't care if the name no longer applies. Let them have it.



The JCC/WNU "feud" was hilarious initially, though.

 

**** yes, it was

...and

...and...

supreme hilarity.

 

whoa, i never even knew there was a feud! that is so weird.

 

Don't forget this...


...and my personal fave, mean as it is

Nah, it was all part of the BB5 game.

 

Wacky times... the "feud," and SLG "Stepping down" (at gunpoint).

 

As far as I see it, the intention is to keep the forum with some possibly refocusing.

Again, guys, if you want to discuss the issue in terms of WNU, that's fine, but this isn't a social or reminiscing thread. Thanks.

 

I thought I was discussing wnu. I've made several suggestions over the years. I think wnu could benefit from being more informative. Telling people that the jcc is "just a sarcastical place where people like their jokes," is not helpful. I was serious when I said I think that people are not being properly "prepared" for the rest of the boards. I honestly am not gunning for the pillow fight thread to be deleted, etc... that's a part of that forums "culture," and it should remain. What I think would be beneficial is more information. Like I said earlier, I've been seeing a lot of, "wnu isn't for everybody," and I think that's one of its major flaws. Make the place more inviting and user-friendly to regular posters. That way new users wouldn't have to rely on the vague descriptions of a mod who never posts (or reads, I bet) the jcc and a handful of users who gave the same vague description. wnu, as it is, is like preschool - people show up, play make-believe, have naptime and snacks, and are shoved off to college.

 

I think I actually agree with harpuah

 

Just want to quickly note that when we move this will probably no longer be an issue - vBulletin has no post limits on people being able to send PMs (assuming we move to that board system - unsure about the new IGN software).



(it's not a big deal either way - WNU is more than just a place to spam for PM acccess - but I've seen this point posted 3-4 times now so thought I'd make mention of it )

 

Delete all forums except Comms.

 

All decent board software lets you configure that setting, and now that we will have INFINITE POWER over settings, the admins can turn it off or on. (I assume ours will keep it off, because that is usually the default and they aren't smart enough to think about it or check it)