NRW - Retroactively Gay Characters

Are we going to end National Retcon Week this year, or is it an ongoing thing now? Anyway, since they still seem to be happening, and since this thread has lit a fire under my ass in this direction, I think it might be interesting to ponder which of the GFFAers we've seen in the past might in fact be homosexuals.

This isn't intended to be flippant, or an excuse for the billionth Threepio joke, though I'm sure that's inevitable anyway; if you want to debate whether homosexuality should be in SW at all, which is a debate worth having, you should probably keep it to the aforementioned thread. The point here is that, as I understand it, somewhere from 3-10% of any given population of human beings is gay. It would stand to reason, then, that a fair amount of the human characters (to say nothing of other species) we're aware of would have to be gay themselves. Maybe their creators never thought of it that way, or wanted to present it subtlely as a possibility, or maybe even envisioned them as gay but were ordered not to mention it. Either way, there'd have to be some in there somewhere, so who do you suppose they are?

Looking at the lifetime bachelor stereotype, Pellaeon springs to mind; rumored bastard child notwithstanding. It would certainly make us rethink his worship of Thrawn - come to think of it, what about Thrawn himself? I've never heard a word about his romantic life one way or another. Maybe gays are discriminated against in Chiss society, and that's part of what drove him away from it.

How much do we really know about Shmi's relationship with Cliegg? He obviously had a typical married life before her, but she doesn't seem to have married prior to him (though there was a faint undertone of affection for Qui-Gon, I think). Maybe her and Cliegg were just good friends, and the marriage was a way to help her become free.

Daala - come on, no one could really be attracted to Tarkin. Or that Liegus guy.

I can see a doctrinal lack of romantic attachment as being a good way to avoid thinking about one's orientation...Mace Windu? Dooku (he is a snappy dresser)? Hell - Yoda?

Palpatine - a lot of people seemed to be bringing him up in the other thread, but I should point out that he's been established as having, y'know, concubines. Besides, look at all the female eye-candy among the Hands. And anyway, it's hard to read the immediate suggestion that he's gay as anything other than "I mean, he's a deviant, after all!"

Ackbar? The closest thing he's had to a romantic attachment is Winter. And don't even get me started on that; my avatar does not find it amusing.

Jango was never in any serious relationshps, was he? There was that one woman in Cestus Deception, but I'm willing to accept the notion that she was just a nut. Jango being a homosexual would certainly raise some interesting questions about the clones, though, wouldn't it? Especially since a few of them, including Boba, went on to become involved with women.

Ponda Baba and Dr. Evazan? Kabe and Muftak? ::shudder::

Well, that's enough to start off. Any other notions? And I swear to god, gay Threepio lines are not funny anymore. If you bring him up, I will simply feel sorry for you.

 

There is one confirmed Lesbian/Bisexual character in Star Wars, Juhani. She probably had a relationship with Beleya from the Dantooine Enclave, hence the reason why Beleya falls to the Dark Side if you kill Juhani instead of redeeming her. If your Revan is a Light Side Female, Juhani falls in love with her and reveals her feelings to Revan on the Rakatan Temple after choosing not to join Bastila as a Sith.

 

I'm aware, but I don't think a character who has incidental homosexual tendencies is the same as a character who's actually intended to be gay, And besides, Revan has been canonized as a male, so doesn't that de-canonize lesbian Juhani?

 

Darth Maul

I have no idea why.

 

We don't know much about alien species; there may be some where the principle relationships are homosexual, with heterosexual pairings occurring only for reproduction. In fact, since alien-alien relationships are rarely presented, who knows about most aliens we see. And, of course, there's also bisexuality to consider; even if a character is shown to be in a romantic relationship with someone of the opposite sex, that doesn't preclude that they may also be attracted to the same sex.

No, it only means Juhani never had feelings for Revan. Her sexuality wouldn't be dependent on Revan's gender.

 

Personally, I think Thrawn had a "thing" for what's-her-name, the girl who was with Car'das.

Also, I think Zekk counts as bi.

 

So far, we know of 3 Fett clones who have had kids: Boba, Nate, and Darman. Ordo was also pretty obviously straight. But yeah, homosexuality isn't genetic afaik, so that doesn't really say anything about Jango.

Anyways, I'd say Sunber's a good candidate. He hasn't been with any women, and he seems a little bit too attatched to Luke. Also, unlike Jango and various others, people are still writing stories about him.

 

It's currently under debate.

 

Lancers look gay. *shrugs*




What? It's true, when you think they don't have kids. Aka, starfighters.

 

Umm...Kabe is female and Muftak is male.

 

Luke, I don't care if he is married to Mara, that doesn't mean a thing.

 

And that pretty much sums up this thread.

 

The problem with applying 3-10% of estimated homosexual people to SW characters is that those are not your average people - most of them are in the military or politicians. So we would need to know the numbers for those and apply them.

Thrawn and Ackbar are out of the question: other species. Do we know a male Chiss/female Chiss couple? Maybe they are all cloned.

 

Nah, Maris had a "thing" for Thrawn, not the other way around. Thrawn realized how naive and idealistic she was.

 

Wrong.

This is not in any way, shape or form confirmed.

 

Nah, I think it went both ways, but Thrawn knew that it would never work.

 

As NRW was coming to a close, McEwok declared the month of August to be NRM

You're forgetting the biggest question mark in terms of Jango's sexuality: why he couldn't have a kid by natural means.

 

Because he couldn't meet a nice girl...

National Retcon Month will end on the 26th, IIRC. I'm thinking that next year it will return to being a Week, but we'll give warning so people can have time to prepare their retcons.

 

Aint that the truth!

 

Well, of his own species, anyway....

 

Wrong yourself. All you need to do is play KOTOR.

 

Good luck with that.

It's not confirmed in any way, shape or form by LFL.

 

KOTOR is LFL-approved canon. Juhani has romantic feelings for a woman in KOTOR. A woman who has romantic feelings for a woman is a bisexual or lesbian. Therefore, LFL has approved that Juhani is bisexual or a lesbian. QED.

 

Really?
Revan conquered the galaxy?
'cause, man, that was LFL approved as well. And, oh wait, NOT CANON.

Please try again with the gameplay mechanics. I'd pretty much wager that Mustafar would turn into Hoth sooner than LFL would publicly-endorse a canonical not-heterosexual character (bestiality between species is fine, so long as it's het apprarently)...

 

Belaya falls if you kill Juhani as male or female, doesn't matter. And either way after saving Juhani she's all greatful and whatnot. However, she only proclaims love if you're a female, so I think she's pretty much gay on that one.