ST New Canon Material (novels, TV shows, comics, games) and TFA

I don't know I haven't read the comic but given the context it seems like a it's a message that should only be dispatched upon the Emperor's death?

 

Whatever it is, droid or living being, it's creating the mis-impression that the Emperor is still alive, giving orders and such.

 

That may be the case, but the way it's presented to the captain there is that the Emperor is alive & well, giving specific orders to a select few (or, for all we know, just him). Whether the red-clad guy there is a droid, an organic in a hi-tech suit, or a cyborg doesn't much matter... he wears a strange helmet, and Sheev's holographic visage appears to deliver a specific pre-recorded message when its intended recipient is verified by blood.

 

The robes and body movements suggested to me it was a living thing with a helmet that could display video (actually the Mouth of Sauron is the comparison that came to mind).

Incidentally, on the next page the officer threatens one of his subordinates for "spreading Rebel propaganda" by suggesting the Emperor is dead. It wasn't clear to me if he believes the Emperor is alive or if he falls into Sidious's "Those who have power are afraid to lose it," category and thus (probably like other imperial officers) will promote the lie for his own personal benefit.

 

..and people on these boards have complained about rebels being slow. this is just now season 2!

 

People have complained about Rebels being slow? It's basically non-stop action with a few scattered pauses.

 

yes. on the tv board some people said they had trouble getting into the show because it was "too slow". lol.

people ask me why i get irritated. that's why. people irritate me.

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Get irritated about really important things, like your health and wellbeing. Not what others opinions are. Be happy as much as you can.

I love you and always have.

 

ahhh thx. yeah my health, well being, etc are all terrible.

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I'm not watching a 3rd animated series if the same showrunners are involved.
TCW & Rebels both have their positives but overall the absurd characters and plotlines they included thus far have been really un-Star-Wars which is a real letdown.

 

I just had a thought.

It's heavily rumored (and almost certain) that Kylo Ren is Han and Leia's kid. If we assume he is 30 years old, which was Adam Driver's age at the time of filming, then it should be a given that Han and Leia did the dirty/got down/conceived Kylo just around the time frame of Shattered Empire. SO....I feel as if Marvel will be careful about giving Leia too much spotlight in the series, otherwise they'd risk exposing us to a spoilerific pregnant Leia?

 

For the whole Jedi in the OT discussion: You can retcon everything, you can invent whatever explanation suits you better. You can assign new names for the same thing. But is it a good thing to do? Does it enhance and enrichen the story when Luke is not the last Jedi anymore? I don't think so. There was a point to Luke's existence, which was to be the very last hope of the Jedi. The last movie is even named "return of the Jedi". Filoni better respect that.

And about Filoni. I am fatigued by his style of telling stories, I think fresh blood would be a good idea at this point. There's no reason to stick with him forever.

I loved Aphra's speech about how everyone has a sob story because of the war and that hers isn't anything special. It explains so much about her behaviour and allegiance to Vader.

 

completely false.

 

I stopped watching the minute they brought back Darth Maul and butchered Boba Fett even more... Horrible shows.

 

This is a good question and I have the felling they already starting showing Luke as less important as he seemed when we watched the ending of ROTJ. Maybe Luke will be seen again as very important with the reveal in TFA, but we will see.....

 

Luke still is the last hope of the Jedi...to defeat the Sith, which is why they're in such dire straits in the first place. He's Yoda's final student, the one for whom the Force Priestesses rewarded Yoda with the secret of immortality. He's Yoda's best hope for the Jedi to continue. Other Jedi or Jedi-ish heroes out there don't affect that... None of them can bring Anakin back to the light, or wouldn't have the raw power to possibly defeat the Sith in combat without falling to the darkness themselves. None of them bear the Yoda Training School Seal of Approval, either.

 

That's too bad. IMO, TCW series has a few story arcs that are some of the best Star Wars ever put to screen.

 

yeah I agree and I really enjoyed several TCW arcs a lot.

 

We'll just have to agree to disagree, pal. In my mind there is an enormous difference whether one person carries the flame of the order forward, and it's knowledge, or several. You can't pretend it's the same thing no matter how hard you try. And it's not just about "combat" and "defeating". It's about the Jedi's philosophy, their legacy, knowledge and history.

But I am going to post a compromise which I think could satisfy all parties.

 

I just hope Filoni get's on with it and kills off all his Jedi/Force Sensitives/Inquisitors. It would tie in fine with what Ben says in ANH "Vader helped the Empire hunt down and destroy the Jedi Knights".

Anakin/Vader turning up and the Jedi Temple hardly counts as hunting them down so it makes sense if he just offs them one by one in Rebels (Please don't anyone bother me with the whole "Well technically they're not Jedi argument". It's quite literally just a technicality!)

 

Okay, so here is my proposal which I would think is a fitting compromise. It is also what I think Filoni could do, because different than some posters, he's not a pink fluffy-bunnies happy end guy. TCW had a lot of deaths and it wasn't afraid to show bad consequences.

Ahsoka was compared to Obi-Wan Kenobi by Filoni. What happens to the teachers when the pupils don't need them anymore? They often die. Ahsoka will heroically sacrifice herself for the lives of the ghost crew as soon as Kanan and Ezra have grown together as master and pupil. She goes down fighting which is fitting, because she was always a fighter. She should not die in bed, that's unsatisfying. She dies happily knowing that others will fight on in her stead.

Kanan's story is tied with training Ezra. When Ezra's training ends, his storyarc also does. If we follow typical Jedi story progression, it would now be Ezra's turn to grow into a mentor and teacher, even if he isn't yet a knight.

But who would be there to teach?

I can tell you. Remember Palpatine's little project in TCW when he collected force sensitive kids for his own nefarious purposes, whatever they may be? Yes, exactly. The ghost crew figures out that the project is still ongoing. The children are brought to some facility which is guarded by the Inquisitors. When the Ghost Crew finds out, they make it their mission to free the kids, no matter what. This is when Kanan sacrifices his life, staving off Vader or the Inquisitors long enough so that the others can escape. He tells Ezra to protect the children at all costs and Ezra promises to do this, because he has grown as a person. Ezra (and maybe some other crew-member like Zeb) then takes the children and they form their own enclave on a forgotten outer rim planet. Ezra is not a fully formed Jedi yet, but he protects the children for as long as it is necessary. He also hides his powers. They're in exile, basically, and waiting for the light of the Jedi to return so that he and the kids can become Jedi.

Flash forward.

The Empire has been beaten and the Jedi have return. Jedi Master Luke Skywalker founds the new Jedi order and he gets a surprise visit by Ezra and the children. They are the first of the pupils.

 

Not really shattered could end before it is even obvious that Leia is Pregnant so it can still work.

 

Maybe she'll wear an Aurebesh "Baby on Board" badge.

 

Now I want her ship to have that as a bumper sticker