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Full Series Mini Series The Inquisitors (Spoilers)

Discussion in 'Star Wars TV- Completed Shows' started by nld3, Oct 13, 2013.

  1. KamNale

    KamNale Jedi Master star 2

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    I could have sworn I've heard rumors that in Season 4 they were going to introduce the Second and Fourth Inquisitor. That could be just a grain of salt, but they do need to do something about their story at least. Not saying this Season, but something.
     
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  2. Third Brother

    Third Brother Jedi Youngling

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    Perhaps they'll introduce an inquisitor next season given to Thrawn as a body guard? Because it seems the empire may want to protect him due to him becoming a noticeable threat to the rebellion.
     
  3. TheAvengerButton

    TheAvengerButton Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Does anyone else secretly hope that they recanonize other Dark Side organizations in the future, perhaps as part of the supposed the post-ROTJ series? I would love to see a new version of the Prophets of the Dark Side. I mean, we already have Dathomiri witches and Inquisitors. Bring on the Prophets, baby!

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  4. PCCViking

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    Could be a Night of the Long Knives situation. Perhaps the new Grand Inquisitor is getting too big for his/her britches and Vader takes them out. The Emperor orders an even sharper crackdown on any Force sensitives as a result, until Luke is discovered.
     
  5. SpecForce Trooper

    SpecForce Trooper Jedi Master star 4

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    Exactly. Something like how Hitler purged the SA.
     
  6. PCCViking

    PCCViking 6x Wacky Wednesday Winner star 10 VIP - Game Winner

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    I wouldn't be surprised if Palpatine "hinted" that the Inquisitors were up to something (or maybe he lied about them).
     
  7. Vialco

    Vialco Force Ghost star 5

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    I really don't understand these theories. The Inquisitors are given very limited training for a reason. None of these guys could pose a threat to Vader or Palpatine. The rest of the Empire views them with disdain, referring to them as "unnecessary mystics". The Sith are practical beings, they won't just destroy their own servants whom they've gone to considerable trouble to recruit and train. It's more likely that there just aren't very many Inquisitors left at this point. Four were killed in the span of a year and Vader has better things to do than recruit and train replacements.
     
  8. KamNale

    KamNale Jedi Master star 2

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    I'm curious about their ranking and numbers. The Eighth Brother claimed that there are more than enough for the Ghost crew. So how many do they have? Is there a Fifth Brother and a Fifth Sister? Is the number their ranking in terms of power?
     
  9. Ithorians

    Ithorians Jedi Master star 4

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    I must say, I would normally agree with you, but more because of the extreme loyalty the Inquisitors showed Vader, not because they are not to be considered a potential threat. After all, the Rogue One crew wasn´t even force sensitive and they brought a lot of problems to the Empire; so did Kanan and Ezra without being superior to the Inquisitors at any point.

    The fact that the Imperial officers don´t really respect them is not suprising, seeing that the Empire itself has the disdain for any belief like the Force in their very roots. The officers dislike the Inquisitors simply because they want to rule things and gain more political/military power and here comes an agent they didn´t even know, they don´t know what he/she is supposed to do (to hunt Jedi, but Jedi are promoted as a myth by the Empire), and he/she takes their power away from them.

    I do think PCCViking´s theory can work pretty well if done right. In any case, it works better than Maul killing them all just because he is cool or Ezra leading a rebel attack to their fortress and wiping them out. IMHO, it makes no sense for the Inquisitors to be gone. They can be just like the old EU ones and go on even after the Battle of Endor. The thing is, they should work on that storyline since they´ve already committed to it, not just stop talking about them and hope all fans forget they were main antagonist for 2 seasons...
     
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  10. Vorax

    Vorax Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    Its a cockamamie theory to be frank imo .

    The Empire wants all religions of the Force done away with, not just the Jedi. All save for one, The Sith Order. Thats because the Sith want to be the only religion around, has nothing really to do with their servants. Sith cultists and acolytles or Dark Side Adepts appear to exist and not all are directly Force sensitive to be believers and followers of the dark Side not all need to be for the Light Side. But some obviously are. So obviously as long as they worship and cater to Sidious the ruling Sith Master he sees no harm. Vader am sure as his own cult, it seems common for Dark Siders including Mother Talzin.

    Inquisitors act outside of the military chain of command much like Vader does, and thus they'd be viewed much the same way as Vader, they are not military men but mysterious mystic warriors, ones they have to obey or else. That is contradictory to the Empire's own belief system, as faithless, so they may also be confused and have animosity as the Empire is a oppressive regime by nature and practice. Tarkin is part of the triumvirate of the government that Palpatine formed with himself, Vader and Tarkin. So no Tarkin is not a ordinary military man, its also why even Vader had to obey him. He was one of Palpatine's closest supporters and "friends". Sidious has multiple Jedi and Sith enemies around, his rule is far from absolute. These are all active in bringing him down, some leading organized and growing revolt that is winning steadily. So far Vader, Tarkin and the Inquisitors all failed. So why would Vader kill his and Sidious's own personal Force soldiers, nonsense.

    Tarkin isnt a religious fanatic, he's the opposite. He has no idea of the inner workings of the Jedi or the Sith faiths and the kinda clandestine nature of the Sith let alone the Force nor the Dark Side. What knowledge does Tarkin have, he may have studied the religion of the Force, but he is faithless and a none believer(this is encouraged in the Empire by the government as the Sith do not want people to have faith), and seems to view the Force/religion with contempt and something to be eradicated which he has tried to do.


    Rogue One had different faiths & practitioners of the Force, including the Kyber crystal pendant which kinda acts like a crucifix but with perhaps more mystical properties, but faith still is key. The Death Star destroying a holy city filled with those various Force faiths, pilgrims, and practitioners puts Tarkin's comments more in a different light. The Guardians of the Whills follow a different discipline but are attuned with the Force or the Force them, in either case the Force is present and acting through them. They were basically the films version of Jedi. Rogue One was certainly not Force free SW. The Nightsisters also followed a different Force religion and it worked differently with them. There seems to be more than one way to channel or call upon the Force for those tuning themselves into it and those that have faith.

    Maul killing Inquisitors makes sense obviously, since they are his his enemies as are their masters. Same goes for the Jedi warriors(Ezra and Ahoska) and Kanan the Knight. All of them cept for Ezra killed an Inquisitor- remember Ezra could not kill in coldblood so Maul killed the 7th Sister. Maul viewed the Inquisitor's as little more than play things, they are an affront to him and an insult, as he is a fully trained but now former Sith Lord. Most of the Inquisitors on the too so far have been young and only The Grand Inquistor was a fully trained Jedi Knight and a veteran warrior but somehow he lost to Kanan of all people. So what does that mean?! There is no logic or common sense in Vader killing his own religious warrior minions just to be the last(which could never be the case as Force sensitives are constantly being born the Force being life finds a way) , which is just silly. That only hurts himself and aids his and his master's enemies in both short term and long term goals.

    There is no evidence that the Grand Inquisitor was a threat to Vader or Sidious, if there was than Sidious would've gotten on the hologram and told Vader to kill him like he told Tyranus to kill Ventress . That was done as much to punish Tyranus for his past failures and and weaken Tyranus's own power base as it be because she was supposedly growing in power and could one day be a rival to him Ventress was more a personalized Apprentice than the GI - who was more a specialist super soldier that happened to be a religious warrior. IF Sidious did not want ANY Jedi survivors around then he would've tasked his men and Vader to kill not capture & convert Jedi which is also one of the tasks of the Inquisitor's. Vader never acted alone in killing Jedi, he had Clones and later Inquisitors that aided in the hunt and not all of the hunted were apparently killed as there was an open door policy for Jedi to convert(likely not many did but some obviously did). That policy was extended to Ahsoka by Vader even at face value, but it was still present and account for. Vader did not really seem to think it was big deal about bring Luke before The Emperor and the possibly of being being replaced did not seem very real to Vader. So the Inquisitor program seems very much in Vader's mind. But its obvious, that Vader had forgotten the first and only rule of the Sith in ROTJ . I don't see any alternative but the Inquisitor's project, it also follows these important lines in the OT:

    "When I left you, I but the learner; now I am the master. "


    " If he could be turned he would become a powerful ally. "


    "Yes, he would be a great asset. Can it be done ."

    "He will join us or die, master."
     
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  11. TheAvengerButton

    TheAvengerButton Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Yes. I don't think the Emperor needs any reason to wipe out the Inquisitors. He could just have Vader kill them if he wants at any time without giving it any justification.

    The future of the Inquisitorius as an organization is fuzzy though, but I'd like for them to stick around as long as possible.

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  12. Ithorians

    Ithorians Jedi Master star 4

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    I agree that Vader killing his own Inquisitors doesn´t make much sense right now. Personally, I don´t see much logic in Maul singlehandedly ending the Inquisitorius either, because a- he was on Malachor until recently; b- Inquisitors, I guess, are spread all over the galaxy at any given point, so they are not easy to track down; and c- I would hardly see killing Inquisitors as a priority for Maul...

    So, unless both Obi-Wan and Yoda have been killing Inquisitors all this time (obviously it doesn´t make sense), there isn´t much people in the galaxy that can deal with them now. The most logical explanation is that the Inquisitors are not killed in combat, but their role within the Empire change, closer to the interrogators of the old EU. I guess it´s unlikely that this is the path the series take, but it´s the only really logical resolution for them with the information we have. They will probably integrate new elements to the story that will provide a paradigm shift towards the intented conclusion of the storyline...
     
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  13. Vorax

    Vorax Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    Neither Sidious nor Vader were gonna live forever on top of it. And the Sith Order would need to carry forward into the future. The laws of logic and nature and thus mortality is still very much present, a physical life is all to important. As is the Sith tradition of supplanting one another. Survival of the strongest isnt total extinction which I think some confuse it for. And even Darth Bane is testament to the non-extinction Am sure Inquisitors also vie for power kinda the same way as their master's, the Sith, there was even a rivalry between Ventress and Grievous. But at the end of the day, they have to work together the same way even Sith Lords of Bane's Order certainly do. They'd also need a pool to pick from still, wiping out everyone that is Force sensitive and potentially powerful out is counterproductive to their own survival and their own need for an apprentice. If there is one thing we learned in SW is that Grievous's like cyborg s with no Force power are useless against those who are trained and more so against those whom are powerful in the Force. They're crappy substitutes for actual Force warriors/apprentices. Maul and Vader made short work of cyborg created warriors the Sith used as quasi-apprentices, and both viewed them as monstrosities and insults despite both were part machine themselves. But there remains the difference which was clear, in their ability to use the Force, their belief in the Force and their fighting ability was one with the Force. Murderous warriors like Maul and Vader, are religious fanatics to the core, its their faith that keeps them alive and running you know.
     
  14. vong333

    vong333 Force Ghost star 5

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    I'd like to see some more. I like there unique abilities and hopefully, they can expand them so more
     
  15. DANNASUK

    DANNASUK Force Ghost star 7

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    I'm just going to say it...

    The Inquisitors were the biggest wasted opportunity in the show and probably should've never been used. Were just there to give us lightsaber duels.
     
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  16. Vialco

    Vialco Force Ghost star 5

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    Yeah and with them out of the picture we haven't gotten a single lightsaber duel in Season Three. So I do miss them quite a bit.
     
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  17. Zejo the Jedi

    Zejo the Jedi Jedi Knight star 3

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    There was a duel in "Visions and Voices". And, up to this point (50 episodes) Rebels has the same number of episodes with duels as TCW. It may sound crazy, but it's true.
     
  18. Vialco

    Vialco Force Ghost star 5

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    The duel in Visions and Voices does not count in my books. A couple lightsaber strikes and parries does not make a duel.
     
  19. ardavenport

    ardavenport Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    All it would take for Vader and Sidiuos to kill the Inquisitors is for the Inquisitors to start plotting against them, not an un-heard of thing for Sith. And I suppose they Inquisitors might have been killed while pursing Jedi, or killed by Vader and/or Sidius if they failed to often. The Grand Inquisitor preferred to kill himself rather than answer to them for his failure. And that happened on Mustafar where Vader has his castle. I suppose he might have been somewhere else and the Grand Inquisitor wanted to end it all before he got back.
     
  20. Mother_Talzin

    Mother_Talzin Jedi Master star 4

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    The Inquisitors were under utilized in my opinion. I'm still hoping to see Vader and the Emperor interact with what's left of them. They could easily transition one or more into Imperial Dignitaries, or even Vader's servant, Vanee.
     
  21. DAH

    DAH Jedi Youngling star 1

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    Still really wish they never killed of the Grand Inquisitor in season one....I miss Jason Issac's evil tone's taunting the Rebel's :(
     
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  22. Vorax

    Vorax Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    They could always bring him back like Clancy Brown for a different character.
     
  23. Starwarsfan9000

    Starwarsfan9000 Jedi Master star 3

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    We have put them aside for now it seems do to more focus put on the Rebel Alliance building and their battle against the Empire more specifically Thrawn and the Seventh Fleet but I think we should get back to them at some point or at the very least give us an end for them by saying what happened to them. Have them be wiped out in some capacity those who are left anyway.

    I would personally have them all meet up under the leadership of the former Grand Inquisitor (not the one from Season 1 but his predecessor) who maybe was exiled for being too ambitious and wanted to become a true Sith and thus began to seek Sith knowledge and then decides to call back his fellow remaining Inquistors to join him in a takeover of the Empire but someone stops them be it one of the heroes or Vader himself.

    Another alternative could be a comic book series detailing various Inquisitors or the ones we've seen in the show encounter with the surviving Jedi. Some Jedi who are unnaccounted for in new cannon do to either never having a cannon death or they did but it was changed according to Wookieepedia are:

    Quinlan Vos

    Barris Offee (Formally a Jedi)

    Yaddle

    Oppo Rancisis

    Coleman Kjac

    Eeth Koth

    Bultar Swan

    Tera Sinube (Though I'm going to guess he was killed during the attack on the Temple and is just not mentioned as having been there that night yet but putting him down in case)

    Ganodi, Zatt, Gungi, Katooni, Petro and Byph (Again they may or may not have died as part of the temple attack. Whether they did or not they don't have deaths recorded so I'm putting them down as unaccounted for)

    So yeah either or idea as a way to continue them in some way shape or form possibly.
     
  24. The Mirificus

    The Mirificus Jedi Knight star 2

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    Have we established any relationship between the Inquisitors and the Force-Sensitives Sheev uses to enhance his ability to forsee things through the Force? I mean, besides that some of the Inquisitors were involved in kidnapping small children for this purpose? Could the Inquisitors be specially-trained members of this group, and be re-absorbed into this group when there isn't enough work catching leftover Jedi to justify them being out and about in the Galaxy? I agree that the Sith would be foolish to waste the resource that Force-Sensitives in the Galaxy provide by killing Inquisitors that pose no real threat to their rule. If the Inquisitors by and large disappeared from the public eye after a while, working only for Sheev and Vader, it would cast the illusion that Tarkin and the other officers have that the Force isn't important to the Empire.
     
  25. Darth_Accipiter

    Darth_Accipiter Force Ghost star 5

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    he was also a walking meme, the biggest star on the image caption thread. I miss that.
     
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