An intelligent discussion about masturbation

At this point, I can't really continue my side of the argument, unless you're talking to a married Christian with sexual experience, or perhaps even just a committed female Christian.

Well, if you make the conscious decision to masturbate while in the shower or something it would probably be easier to wash than for someone who doesn't masturbate and consequently has more frequent wet dreams and has to do laundry more often.

Erm, that's not necessarily the case, you know.

 

Was it the Fleshlight, Jebus?

 

I think they have a different name.

They're called "merkins" no?

 

How can it be used for good? It needs extra stimulation in order to help along an orgasm durring intercourse. And since this extra stimulation is bad, how can it be used for good?

Unless, of course, the only reason for it is so that we can overcome the opportunity for temptation, and thus become more holy people?

But that seems pretty screwed up to me.

 

I thought they were called 'flesh lights.'

 

On the box it says "Senso-lips" and "jelly masturbatory sleeve".

 

Erm, that's not necessarily the case, you know.
People who masturbate frequently (at least during puberty) have less wet dreams than those who don't. It's biological, your body has to get rid of the sperm that are being produced.

 

sex is beutiful inside of marraige, it is god's way of creating life
Mortimer_Snerd, you never answered my last question

 

Well, from a Christian perspective, masturbation is not a sin. It is never defined in the Bible anywhere as a sin. There's also the fact that all sin is now grace, so there's no more sin; there is only grace.

The only reason that there is any objection to masturbation is that Jesus says that if you even lust after a woman in your heart, that you have committed adultery. Thus, fantasies(unless about your wife) count as adultery.

Now don't tell me you've ever masturbated and not thought about a member of the opposite sex(gays excepted).

The Bible also says that all things are lawful, but not all things are edifying. So under the new law of grace, you can lust all you want. However, is it edifying?

That's really what it comes down to. Is masturbation edifying?

If I masturbate, then I'm much less likely to be checking out girls and offending them and committing adultery(Remember the Beattitudes!). It also keeps me from getting prostate cancer.

However, during the act of masturbation I obviously AM lusting. That should be obvious. And I suppose that that means temporary seperation from God. After all, I don't really think about God much when I masturbate(If ever). I suppose, though, that the same thing could be said about intercourse.

So, is masturbation edifying? It can be. But I'm still not so sure if it is, really.

 

sex is beutiful inside of marraige, it is god's way of creating life

So once women reach menopause and can't get pregnant anymore, they should give up sex?

EDIT - I'm married and when I masturbate I usually think about dirty sex with my wife. That ain't adultry.

 

You're twisting things, Odi-Zahn

 

{nevermind}

 

Well, this certainly has been a stimulating topic but I must say good night and good masturbating.

 

EDIT:nevermind

 

EDIT - I'm married and when I masturbate I usually think about dirty sex with my wife. That ain't adultry.

I don't view it as adultery either.

You're twisting things, Odi-Zahn

Why do you say that, barthtnttle?

 

You just have to think about God while you masturbate and it's kosher.

There might even be a jelly sleeve out there with a white beard attached.

 

tuttle, can you elaborate on what he's twisting?

 

I'll tell you tomarrow, good night

 

I'll tell you tomarrow, good night

= Cop out.

Good night. I'll be expecting an answer tomorrow.

 

Well, it seems last night,
you caught me yankin' it.
No use denyin' it,
I was really crankin it.
Dry your eyes,
Don't be so sad.
But just forget about them tissues
They've already been had.


Well, when I was seventeen
You told me it was dirty.
I guess it's pretty creepy
Now that I'm pushin thirty...


Lyrics by Kip Attaway. Can't find the rest of them on the net.

But if you hear the entire song...hahahahaha.

 

People who masturbate frequently (at least during puberty) have less wet dreams than those who don't. It's biological, your body has to get rid of the sperm that are being produced.

I know that. I thought we were talking about post-pubescent adults here, though.

 

But just because it was your bed
It's not that bad
Talk to me Dad

Thats what I remember of it.

 

I know that. I thought we were talking about post-pubescent adults here, though.

I was replying to darth tuttle and he's 16, not exactly post-pubescent or adult.

 

An intelligent discussion about masturbation... some one is all ways jerking around.

 

Well, from a Christian perspective, masturbation is not a sin. It is never defined in the Bible anywhere as a sin. There's also the fact that all sin is now grace, so there's no more sin; there is only grace.

It goes back to the mention in the Old Testament about a guy named Onan who slept with his dead brother's wife to bear a son and "spilled his seed upon the ground", and the Lord killed him.


Of course, I don't think God would get mad at anybody for pleasuring themselves, what with all other BIG things happening in the world.

Plus, all it says is "spilled his seed".
For all we know, it was Premature Ejaculation.

or maybe he was hiking across the farm with a bag full of grain, tripped, spilled the grain, and fell to his death over a cliff.
(so he both spilled his seed and died partly from it.)