Full Series Asajj Ventress in the Clone Wars discussion thread

In the comic "Obsession", Anakin believes to have Ventress killed already on Coruscant, whereas Obi-Wan still deems her alive. Does anybody know, in which comic Anakin "killed" Ventress on Coruscant?

 

Obi found evidence that Ventress was alive in Obession, Skywalker was enraged as he beleived he killed her, she was still alive in a Bacta tank being nursed back to health .

This is what you're taking about:

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Duel_in_the_Coruscant_Underlevels

Should be found in Dark Horse's Star Wars Omnibus Clone Wars Volume 2.

 

Thank you, dude,

So this is in "Dreadnaughts of Rendilli". There is also a hint on TCW-series in your link but AFAIK at the end of season five, Anakin threatened to kill her but even if there is another attempt on his behalf in the lost TCW-missions, Anakin's wowes will turn out to be as Ventress put it in the end of season five: Empty promises.

 

darskpine10 Indeed. I loved the scale of the earlier seasons of the show. It just felt small after several arcs that were only about Anakin, Obi-Wan and Ahsoka. I am not gonna hog this thread about a topic that is painful for me and not so much about Ventress, but the main trio wasted a lot of arcs they were in due to the fact that they were there and yet nothing was expanded or advanced about them. Most vile offender was the inclusion of Anakin and Ahsoka in the Mon Calamari arc.

It is hard to make her like what she in those comics due to the limitations of the format. In those comics, like many other elements, she was cooler than Vader. She rode a rancor to victory. That is just too epic!
Her depiction in earlier season fit well with how other villains were portrayed and acted. If she was this powerhouse of a villain and then you have Grievous, Lok Durd and Mar Tuuk then it would look out of balance. The show's creators wanted villains that always lose and she was no exception.
She got expanded, but that is only cause Lucas wanted to somehow bring Maul into the show and she was lucky to be chosen by him for the job. The result was interesting and something that should have had a bigger presence before the "murder by Disney" and not end in a book. I am really curious what will unfold about her in this upcoming novel.

 

If only the CW cartoon gave us Ventress or other Nightsisters riding Rancors - what a cool element of the EU to be left out of the series.

 

I just read "Obsession". Does anybody know what happened in #50 to Ventress ' right eye? It is shining like that missing eye of the Egypt ancient queen Nofretete. Or is that such an implantate aka cyborg-amplifications.

 

My favorite line delivered by Asajj is this: "My master abandoned me, and that's exactly what you did to her [Ahsoka]...you and your precious Jedi Order!" Asajj had a great voice for the series. So jaded/cynical, but also sad and mischievous. I felt sorry for her at times and scared during others. One of my favorite characters during the show's run.

 

Ventress is one of the few female characters I genuinely liked, and that didnt seem force fed as some sorta politic or whatever. She was a legit villain but female. She wont be easily forgotten as the years come and go and never replaced.

 

I always liked her taking on Grievous in 'Massacre' (I only wish it was longer).

 

I don't like when they cut stuff out, they should atleast release extended edition DVDs and canonize such material.

Would've been one of Ventress's best lines and scenes, "Not even close!"

 

Well, it was technically never really cut out in the first place since it wasn't completed for inclusion in the final product, but it would have been great if they had finished that part and included it in the episode (which already is listed as a Director's Cut on the DVD & BD if i recall correctly so it's definitely a missed opportunity).

 

I agree. Asajj has relatable reasons for what she's doing. Whether in the comics/novels or in TCW, she's an abused character just trying to find her way. She's not just a piece of meat like many female characters are.

And, Vorax, they should have left that in.

 

Sometimes I wonder why Ventress is so popular. I mean, she was made up for the animated series' (plural) and never featured in main film canon, regulalrly goes up against canonically high-end characters like Anakin and holds her own, gets a lot of focus and development and most of the best lines in any given episode she appears in. She really sounds like she ought to be a creator's pet/insert like Ahsoka is accused of being, if I am honest. But somehow she manages to be interesting and funny and resides even now in my top five all-time favourite SW characters list, but I just can't work out why. I guess mostly it's because she has to fight constantly in-universe, and her equal-opportunity sarcasm-and-insults policy. Doesn't matter which side your on, or how powerful you are... Ventress has a put down just for you.

 

I like her because she isn't much of a talker, offers cookies, AND NEVER DIED OR WENT NEAR QUINLAN VOS. And her actions indirectly lead to Lawless.

 

Ah yes, the Colt kiss...I'm still baffled by CN censoring that at all.

 

Regarding that moment in Bounty, if she would have let Pluma go back to her people without forcing them to pay up first for the girl's release, would that have betrayed her character or would it have worked (at least considering the circumstances)? I've found myself wondering that a couple of times.

 

Up to that point she really had no character aside from she was a coldblooded and ruthless murderess villain whenever she appeared on the show whose main job was making the heroes look good and heroic in thwarting and defeating her. They seemed to have infused character into her with a personal code of honor despite it was clear she was now an unconventional villain, and more an anti-villain going towards anti-hero. I don't think it would've worked if they started just making her do all these nice and heroic things with no strings attached too early on and too soon. The more time she spent away from Dooku, the more lightsided she got, which implies his influence on her was that mainly turned her evil and Dooku himself must've been naturally evil probably even before he turned Sith Lord, perhap the Jedi just never saw it or refused to. There does not seem to be anything redeemable about Dooku, not even in DD, which really did make him the perfect ally to Sidious like Tarkin.