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Ahsoka Baylan Skoll

Discussion in 'Star Wars TV- Current and Future Shows' started by Django Fett, Apr 7, 2023.

  1. Django Fett

    Django Fett Force Ghost star 5

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    The newest lightsaber wielding villain to the Galaxy, Baylan Skoll, played by Ray Stevenson. Rumoured to be playing 'a villainous admiral' according to Holtywood Reporter back in February 2022, but now appears to be a Dark Sider...possibly the first live action appearance of a genuine Dark Jedi.

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    His appearance above has the traditional homage to samurai that we saw with Vader & the Inquisitors.
    Though Inquisitors wielded red blades on their spinning lightsabers, the orange lightsabers both Baylan
    and his apprentice carry suggest they're something else.
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  2. Ithorians

    Ithorians Jedi Master star 4

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    We've seen little from him, obviously, but I found him quite interesting already . Seems like great casting and the possibility of seeing, as you say, something beyond the Jedi-Sith dichotomy, which would be refreshing. His line about this being a new beginning (an opportunity to step out of the shadows and seek power, perhaps?) could imply as much, at least.
     
  3. Glitterstimm

    Glitterstimm Force Ghost star 6

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    Excellent casting choice. Just from a visual standpoint, maybe the most imposing looking villain of all the live action since Disney buyout. =D==D=
     
  4. Django Fett

    Django Fett Force Ghost star 5

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    Yeah it's very refreshing to see there are more than just Jedi and Sith, Ahsoka has evolved into a pure Light Sider so why can't other Jedi survivors evolve down different paths?
     
  5. Darth_Accipiter

    Darth_Accipiter Force Ghost star 6

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    His appearance brings to mind the third incarnation of The SWTOR Emperor, Valkorion. The strangely colored lightsabers also plays into the SWTOR comparison. Highly doubt Baylan has anything to do with The Old Republic, but its a fun thought.

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  6. Django Fett

    Django Fett Force Ghost star 5

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    Looks like they've 'borrowed' an infamous Vader scene rather closely...
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  7. Jedi Knight Fett

    Jedi Knight Fett Chosen One star 10

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    I assume another Jedi who survived order 66 and fell to the dark side.
     
  8. Glitterstimm

    Glitterstimm Force Ghost star 6

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    The younger blonde villain with red saber is Baylan's apprentice, I would guess
     
  9. Jedi Knight Fett

    Jedi Knight Fett Chosen One star 10

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    Yes. I would say that’s a good guess
     
  10. Django Fett

    Django Fett Force Ghost star 5

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    Seems the most likely explanation given what's known. There must've been plenty, disillusioned with the war, needing little encouragement and Order 66 just confirmed their view that they were fighting on the wrong side. What happened to those that survived and weren't caught in the Emperor's net to become Inquisitors?
     
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  11. Ithorians

    Ithorians Jedi Master star 4

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    It's true, it's the most likely explanation. Personally, I would love it for him and his possible apprentice to be a completely different sect. They could even be more than just two. Thing is, by his stance in dueling and confidence in Force using, I imagine it's safe to assume that he is formally trained. To explain this without him being a former Jedi implies spending more time delving into his background. I would love it, but the "former Jedi" is probably the most expedited route for the writers to follow, knowing that it can work just fine too.
     
  12. Grizzlor

    Grizzlor Jedi Master star 1

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    Ray Stevenson is one of the most unsung bad guy actors you can find, great casting. The apprentice looks quite a bit like the actress who plays Nurse Chapel on Star Trek SNW but it's a Ukranian-American new actress which is very cool.
     
  13. BadAcrobat

    BadAcrobat Jedi Master star 4

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    Yes. Her name is Shin.
     
  14. CrazyOldJedi

    CrazyOldJedi Chosen One star 6

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    Wouldn't be surprised to find that Shin is his daughter.
     
  15. TaradosGon

    TaradosGon Manager Emeritus star 5 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    I hope “Dark Jedi” doesn’t become an official label for any group of Force users anywhere in the canon. It seems to me that you are not a Jedi, if you leave the Order (see Ahsoka), regardless of how “light” you are. A “dark Jedi” has left the order and is on the wrong side of the good/evil spectrum.

    The only caveat to this would under very specific circumstances where a survivor of the Purge falls to the Dark Side and begins to rebuild the “Jedi Order” in name only, in which case “Dark Jedi” could be used in merchandise marketing to distinguish it from the true Jedi Order.

    Outside of that very specific circumstance, I hope they have a unique name/institution


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  16. Darth_Accipiter

    Darth_Accipiter Force Ghost star 6

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    Agreed, though I would be fine if it exists in the lexicon of the GFFA. The general populace doesn't seem to be educated on the difference between Jedi and Sith et al. The Jedi have had the limelight for thousands of years and the Sith are a secretive organization knowN only to scholars in the High Republic era and beyond, even during the Empire when only a select few knew the Emperor is a Sith. Laymen just called Vader and the Inquisitors "red blades" for their choice of weaponry.
    So if a denizen were to call and evil force user a "dark Jedi" I don't find much issue with it.
     
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  17. Glitterstimm

    Glitterstimm Force Ghost star 6

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    Bold Prediction: Ahsoka traveled to World Between Worlds and popped out in an alternate timeline where Anakin wins the duel with Obi-wan on Mustafar. That shot of Baylan zapping rebel troopers in the hallway is the Vader scene from Rogue One, Vader don't need no suit. And Shin is Leia :cool:
     
  18. Darth Chiznuk

    Darth Chiznuk Superninja of Future Films star 8 Staff Member Manager

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    That’s a New Republic trooper he’s choking so that’s obviously not what’s going on thankfully.
     
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  19. CampOfSorgan

    CampOfSorgan Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    So I’m guessing Baylan & Shin are working for Thrawn?
    Wonder if either of them ever were apart of the Jedi Order. I’m guessing at least one of them (if not both) was.
     
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  20. TaradosGon

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    I had a similar prediction (though I guessed elderly Anakin clone) based on nothing except that Baylan’s armor looks superficially similar to early TCW’s Anakin.

    Going a step further, nearly every Star Wars show and film is centered around the idea of family or “what makes a family?”

    Anakin was the closest thing to Ahsoka’s family and he is dead by this point. Wasn’t Hayden confirmed to be involved in this show? Plus whether with cloning or TWBW you can bring him back and force Ahsoka to face him again.

    Having said that, watch as he ends up being a character that only appears in a couple of episodes and gets killed as quickly as Ahsoka kills the Inquisitor in Tales of the Jedi.


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  21. DarkGingerJedi

    DarkGingerJedi Chosen One star 7

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    Same. I can't stand Dark Jedi, Rogue Jedi, or Gray Jedi. You're a Jedi or not. If you leave the Order, pick a new name.

    Is it possible he used the WBW and traveled to the future? Ahsoka runs into him and takes him back. I dunno. I have no clue lol just spitballing.
     
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  22. Force Nexus

    Force Nexus Jedi Knight star 3

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    No one mentioned this yet?

    Baylan Skoll and Shin Hati.

    In Norse mythology, Sköll (Old Norse: Skǫll, "Treachery" or "Mockery") is a wolf that, according to Snorri Sturluson's Prose Edda, chases the Sun (personified as a goddess, Sól). Hati Hróðvitnisson chases the Moon (personified, see Máni).

    According to Rudolf Simek, it is possible that Sköll is another name for Fenrir, and, if so, "there could be a nature-mythological interpretation in the case of Sköll and Hati (who pursues the moon). Such an interpretation suggests the wolves may be intended to describe the phenomenon of parhelia and paraselenae or Sun dogs and Moon dogs, as these are called 'sun-wolf' in Scandinavian languages (Norwegian solulv, Swedish solvarg)."

    In Norse mythology, Hati Hróðvitnisson (Old Norse: [ˈhɑte ˈhroːðˌwitnesˌson], first name meaning "He Who Hates", or "Enemy") is a warg; a wolf that, according to Snorri Sturluson's Prose Edda, chases Máni, the Moon, across the night sky, just as the wolf Sköll chases Sól, the Sun, during the day, until the time of Ragnarök, when they will swallow these heavenly bodies.
     
  23. DarkGingerJedi

    DarkGingerJedi Chosen One star 7

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    Nice background.

    A pair of Force users, wargs or lone wolves, as opposites (one who chases the sun, the other who chase the moon), could be interesting to explore.
     
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  24. Todd the Jedi

    Todd the Jedi Mod and Loving Tyrant of SWTV, Lit, & Collecting star 6 Staff Member Manager

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    And it’s, y’know, more wolves from Filoni.
     
  25. Jedi Knight Fett

    Jedi Knight Fett Chosen One star 10

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    That’s not how WBW works. If you have time traveled you always have. It’s a loop.
     
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