Ahsoka Baylan Skoll

Let Baylan eat cake!

 

Green cake surely.

 

I could easily see Idris Elba.

 

Gerard Butler

 

Paul Hollywood

 

Baylan Scone.

 

I don’t think I brought this up already, but let’s say they recast Baylan:

what are the odds whatever he finds on Peridea rejuvenates him and we get a younger actor?

Would be a cool twist to have Shin find Baylan and he’s played by *random young actor generator* Henry Cavill?

 

No lets get a more rugged up actor

 

I like that idea. The only problem would be the lead up to it; Baylan hasn't gotten to where he needs to be yet so what do they do before that? Recast a similar-aged actor? (Might as well keep that same similar-aged actor then to avoid further confusion) Deepfake Ray Stevenson? (Might be controversial.) Or maybe with some good script writing we don't need either and can start right off with the younger re-cast.

 

That be just terrible to get young actor to play fountain of youth with Baylan Skoll

 

It's terrible that Ray Stevenson isn't able to reprise the role but they're gonna have to deal with it in some way eventually.

 

You’d start with Shin and her pack of marauders trying to find Baylan and build up to it for a few episodes. She finally finds him at whatever the statue of The Father was pointing at, and you don’t see his face at first: he turns around, and, surprise! He’s 30 years younger. He gives an account about how he found this place and it can give them immortality/etc etc.

 

I think the better route is to make him drastically older.
"This place isn't what we thought it was. They aren't what we thought they were. I was wrong. We were so wrong." -- Elizabeth Shaw

 

Two things seem essential to me for Baylan and this show going forward:

(1) They can’t draw things out too long. These streaming shows have had pacing issues, with some episodes feeling eternal, others too short, and the story progressing very little before pausing for years at a time. This has to stop, it’s not a structure that works well unless you’re giving the audience a lot each time, which they aren’t. We can’t spend 3 or 4 episodes out of 8 with characters searching for another main character. The characters have been established now, so the story needs to really pick up.​

(2) Absolutely no more digital replacements. There’s plenty of good actors in need of a job. These characters are just roles, so they need to be recast if an actor is unavailable, whatever the reasons. There’s no need to write them off the story or to change the story plans. That hurts the story, and while it may seem respectful to the actor, to some, I honestly doubt most actors would care, because they understand that these are roles and the show must go on.​

I list these as essentials because we’ve had five years of Star Wars streaming shows and they still don’t seem to have their legs under them. It’s not always the company’s fault, but they really need to try to stick to the production models that have worked for TV shows for decades, as much as possible. They need to give audiences good stories and not waste time and money experimenting with things or going back and forth on how they decide to tell stories.

The idea of an aged or rejuvenated Baylan isn’t necessarily bad, don’t get me wrong. It’s interesting and creative, but it wasn’t part of the original plan, so to me it’d be distracting and needless. Beyond that, I don’t want the show to get even more magical, which I think misses the main point of the Force and is something Filoni needs to be careful with. So I don’t really want whatever Baylan’s looking for to be something that would affect his aging either way.

 

In other words, the writing needs to improve. I can totally agree with that.

I'm kinda mixed on the digital replacements. I like them for Legacy characters but not for more novelty characters of which I would consider Baylan one. Even tho the technology is still wonky and far from perfected I would rather see a deepfake Luke or Leia or even Tarkin than a recast. I'd like to have JEJ's AI voice on any future Darth Vader appearances rather than some other actor doing an impression, no matter how well. As much as I like Stevenson, I'd rather see him be recast and I wouldn't mind a recast of Din Djarin if that were necessary, although that doesn't seem to be. To make my opinion even more mixed I do love Donald Glover recast as Lando (albiet a relatively younger version which could be an acceptable reason to recast a legacy character,) although I felt that Alden Ehrenreich's Han Solo didn't quite do it for me.

I'd say it is.

I agree it's interesting and creative and not part of the original plan, but that original plan can be changed to accommodate a new real life situation. It's certainly not needless, it can be a creative solution to an unfortunate problem. I'm reminded of the old Dark Empire comics that featured a younger Palpatine as the antagonist.

I couldn't agree more. But that's the path Filoni seems to be going down so we can only hope for the best.

 

That is blasphemy in my ears...Pedro Pascal's voice IS The Mandalorian and I will not accept any other voice ever
I have spoken!

 

Him being too busy to be on set seemed to really hold season 3 back, there seemed to be very clear progression toward him constantly removing his helmet at Bo’s side, they couldn’t do this though because he wasn’t there. It severely affected season 3 in my opinion.

 

Its why we now got a movie, lol

 

That is true but I would bot say it is his fault… Disney failed in securing the lead with an adequate contract… Marvel knows how to do that… but I am biased

 

You're not biased, you're 100% correct. It's not Pedro Pascal's fault for becoming a Hollywood darling and being increasing unavailable for TM because of taking more lucrative and high profile roles due to his rising popularity the fact he doesn't have a rock-solid contract to play Din...it's the fault of DLFL leadership for not having the common sense to secure their show's lead.

I think we mainly got the movie because of Grogu's draw and selling power rather than Din's. At least that's what Disney is banking on, they are desperate for a win with their new SW film. Still, Din and Grogu have that dynamic so having Pascal back was important enough to bend over backward accommodating him by shooting his scenes and recording his voice work in advance, (and probably paying him a tidy sum as well.) Other than that the character is going to be played by body-doubles on the screen for the majority of the film. Kinda reminds me of how Darth Vader was portrayed physically by one actor and voiced by another in the OT, now that I think about it. I still wouldn't care if he were recast tho, especially if they have big plans for the character going forward after this film, Favreau did say a while back that he wanted to keep making TM as long as there is an audience for it.

 

Mandalorian definitely pushed Pedro up even more, but even in S1 he was shooting entire movies (Wonder Woman 1984) while they were shooting it, so it seems like it's always been a part of how they shoot the show. Also it doesn't seem like a problem that needs resolving, he has taken his helmet off exactly 3 times, and only once in s1 on screen.

And anyways as they are currently shooting M&G he has already worked on Last of Us S2 and Fantastic Four so its not as if they're looking to change the arrangement anytime soon

 

To be honest I did not even see any hints that he was on set as far as now except the mention about some scenes being shot in advance to accommodate some schedules. I have a foot in the Pedro Pascal fandom and there was even speculation if he was going to be in the movie other than the voice acting because of the packed schedule of this year! I suppose if he is in scenes these are the scenes that were filmed in advance? F4 was filming in England (actors still on site) so not really a short way to the MG set
I do hope there are helmetless scenes both for character growth as well as for “celebrity traction” in the movie marketing…
EDIT: just realized we may be derailing this thread as it is Baylan’s thread! Sorry no intention to

 

I wouldn't be surprised if Baylan transcends into a non corporeal entity where only a voice actor is needed.