Can Mr. Lucas pull a Peter Jackson?

I would put this over in the 3SA, but only mods can make new threads there now. Anyhow, does anyone else think that however unlikely, though somewhat possible, that ROTS might have a chance at a best picture Academy Award? You know, sort of ala LOTR: Return of the King? In a way thanking Lucas for his contributions to the industry and in appreciation and recognition for his magnificent series of films as a whole...

 

IMO, I doubt it--I think there's honestly a bit of a chance for Ian McD getting a Best Supporting Actor nod, though.

 

I would be surprised if RotS does.

 

Nope. It'll be lucky to get nominated for VFX, Sound, Sound Editing, and/or Score. Ian was indeed fantastic, but it's just not gonna happen.

 

It would be awesome, and indeed, Mr. Lucas deserves such an honour.

Unfortunately, I think it's too soon after Return of the King got Best Picture.

I'd love it if Ewan and Ian got Oscar nods.

 

The movie deserves some consideration but forget it. The Oscar voters spend their spare time trying to think of how they can screw Lucas out of Best FX, you think they're going to give nominate him for Best Director or something like that?
I would think a Best Director nomination would be a no brainer given the movie's intricate construction, technical wizardry and drama but I will not let myself be that naive.

 

The Oscar voters spend their spare time trying to think of how they can screw Lucas out of Best FX, you think they're going to give nominate him for Best Director or something like that?

My God, what a martyr complex. They gave ILM three Oscars in a row for the original trilogy when there was no annual award to be given. They don't sit around twisting their moustaches thinking of some award not to give to Lucas. He wasn't screwed out of anything. Need I remind you both TPM and AOTC got a nomination from this supposedly hateful group of voters. It doesn't matter whether ROTS gets an effects Oscar, and it certainly doesn't matter if it gets a Best Picture nomination--and it isn't even Best Picture material.

 

Best director?! Best picture?!

The Star Wars movies are not that type of movie. LotR was a grand sweeping epic with great acting and direction. Visuals, while grand, weren't the main focus of the films. Star Wars is more of a fun, pulpy film. The acting is generally subpar and the direction and editing need work (though RotS is a vast improvement in both of these areas compared to TPM and AotC). In short. No. It will get some effects awards and a lot of awards from places that go by public opinion however.

 

r_w: You go a bit far with LOTR. Great acting?

Anyway, I would be suprised if they had anything major. Though it is possible that Ian could get best supporting nod. I doubt they will give Ewan a best actor nod (though he deserves it.)

-Seldon

 

It sure deserves Best Costumes and Best Special Effects. Then again, so did TPM and AOTC. John Williams should also be praised with an Oscar for the PTs music at some point.

 

I could be wrong, but I don't think GL is eligible for Best Director nomination because he's no longer in the Director's Guild . . . as for the others, it surely deserves nomination in several categories: sound, vfx, editing, and, in my humble opinion, Best Picture!

 

I would hope that every award went to a star wars member. I'm hopeing we get Yoda at the MTV Movie Awards again, tha was swish.

 

Still i say,Yeah best picture!

Unless Jackson and speilly get drunk and do something stupid. War of the worlds and king kong will win best special effects becuase they'll use darker textures, more linear pesonal storyline and will be more different. All of this will improve the cgi and such experiance.

 

Honestly, a lot of the films winning Best Picture really aren't that great:

Gladiator (loved it, but it's really just a fun action picture)
English Patient (did anyone see this?)
Titanic (liked it, but not a film of any consequence)
Chicago (cheesy chick flick on steroids)

Now I don't think there is a chance in hell ROTS would win an Oscar, but really if you look at what the film does, it should be considered. Everyone I've spoken to says that they've had an actual emotional reaction to the film. It is sad and heartbreaking. It has simplistic dialogue and acting, but as a work of art it deserves consideration with the best of them. It is without peer visually, and elicits a strong emotional reaction from the viewer. Is that not worthy of consideration along with the finest?

I would HOPE for a possible nomination (not a win), though it is a major stretch. No way it wins, but a nomination should be at least in the realm of possibility. And there is no way in hell it doesn't get nominated for Effects and Music. Costumes maybe not, because the Palps makeup was all over the place. I think the Actor one is not going to happen, because McDiarmid was a little too campy after he became Emperor.

 

You go a bit far with LOTR. Great acting?

You don't think Viggo Mortensen, Ian McKellan and the others did a great job?

I doubt they will give Ewan a best actor nod (though he deserves it.)

You think so? I found his acting to be uneven and in places thought it could use improvement.

 

:::You don't think Viggo Mortensen, Ian McKellan and the others did a great job?

Viggo Mortensen was, as they say of Jake Lloyd and Hayden Christensen, "wooden", but more so.

What kind of 'character arc' was Aragorn supposed to have gone through again?

Even as his state-of-denial alter-ego, 'Strider', he could have faced the Eye of Sauron without ever meeting a single Hobbit, if you go by his performance.

It wasn't that good.

 

As much as like Viggo, I didn't think his performance in ROTK was near as good as his performance in FOTR.

Will ROTS win Best Picture. I would be surprised if it was even nominated.

Ian might get a supporting nomination, but I think ROTS will win Oscars only for FX, sound and maybe score.

I think Lucas will get his Oscar eventually, but it will likely be like the one Scorsese got (although he deserves to already have gotten a Best Director) - lifetime achievement. IMHO

 

LOTR- Like most fantasy epics, acting is not the strength of that series, the story is.

Anyone who thinks SW doesn't get unfair treatment from Academy voters is just in denial.
TPM lost to The Matrix. The Matrix had great effects but give me a break. TPM had entire virtual landscapes and characters.

The Oscars are an in-house awards club. Lucas was readily accepted by them, even as a very young filmmaker(American Graffiti, SW) but once he abandoned Hollywood, that was that. They still gave the OT fx awards but that was a given.
Everybody and their sister agrees that ESB was better than SW, yet it got no nomination for picture or director while SW did.

 

LotR was a grand sweeping epic with great acting and direction

Great acting? If it was so great how come no one but Ian McKellan got a acting nomination. I do not think there was any great acting in LOTR movies. Was up to par with the SW movies I thought.

 

Great acting? If it was so great how come no one but Ian McKellan got a acting nomination. I do not think there was any great acting in LOTR movies.

Maybe you should watch it again.

Was up to par with the SW movies I thought.

Some acting in SW is excellent. Christopher Lee for example put in a great performance in RotS. For the 10 minutes he was in it. There is more to acting than talking. When Anakin put the sabers up to Dooku's neck you could see the fear in Lee's eyes. When Palpatine said "Kill him." You could practically hear the words "you betrayed me" just by looking at his face. Unfortunatly most of the non-Lee acting was pretty sub-par.

 

It should get best picture and director. (will it? that's another story.) Best VFX should be a lock. But you never know with the Academy.
BTW LOTR definitely deserved all its Oscars.

 

Depends on how many other great films come out this year. We're not quite halfway there, and nothing has really seemed Oscar worthy yet. This film blows the last two away, but I bet it still isn't good enough for the academy.

 

i have watch LOTR many times. I still do not see any great acting. And if so then why did no one else get an acting nod excpet Ian McKellan?

 

Yeah, LOTR is a steaming heap of nothingness. If that can win, the field is wide open.

I have yet to meet someone who didn't like the film. Everyone I talked to has been emotionally moved by it. This includes non-fans. Combine that with the mostly positive critical response, and it should at least get some consideration.

But it won't.

 

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