Lit A/V Clone Wars Continuity Discussion (Spoilers Allowed)

Yeah, it's a mess. When the series is over, I'll try a marathon and see all the episodes in chronological order. It will be total chaos, switching discs between every other episode. But, well, as long as the stories are good...

 

I didn't even think about the discs ALSO being released in the wrong order.
Double whammy.

 

The Young Indiana Jones Chronicles leaped around in time, but they were tied to real-world events and could be placed in order with ease.
CWAS is an orderless anthology series; the 1st season webcomics and books like Wild Space indicate that the EU is probably going to determine the final order, which is probably for the best...

 

That does "fix" the order, though... there really isn't any internal clues specific to the series that can really date most of the episodes, except in the vaguest way possible. Wild Space really gave a sense of not only order but the passage of time, not to mention the actual state of the war that the episodes were lacking. The webcomics did the same. Could we really place "Ambush" as being between the movie and the Malevolence eps without the comic?
It doesn't help with the comments about references like the one to Ord Cestus, which translated to "Don't even bother trying to tie this to the EU, it's just a throwaway name."

 

Continuity?
Shoulda named this:
"Deciphering the Chronological Order of the Clone Wars"

 

Yeah the series could use more of her.
I'm tired of all the Clones.
kidding.

 

You know, I used to hate Ventress, but looking back on it, she's actually been in some of the best episodes (the clone traitor one and the Argyus one... both of which I forgot the titles of at the moment). I'm not sure if her being in the episodes made them great, but she certainly didn't hurt them.

 

I used to loathe Ventress. I sortof lumped her in with: "They only came up with her after they realized the mistake in killing Maul and creating Dooku..." but she has been a pleasant surprise in CW thus far. So more, puh-lease.

 

Yeah, that was a good episode. I also liked the Malevolence series.

I think the whole continuity issue could've been avoided with the Clone Wars tv series if they'd just done a little more planning. I think part of the issue is that between the series episodes (ie Malevolence, Geonosis, Mando) is they throw in a random...one episode story that has little to do with either the previous or next episode.

You know, I look at the Avatar tv series and part of the reason that worked so well is that one story led to the next. Sure the story may not have, but overall you knew they moved on.

 

...or at least they could be until the order was changed with the movie edits.

TC

 

From the LAC boards:

 

How nice of the Confederacy to get around to rising. Only took them a few months into their war.

 

Obi-Wan rudely disturbed their teaparty on Geonosis. They were totally neutral up to this point.

 

Finally they use the term "Confederacy."

 

Oddly enough, I'm actually looking forward to it.

 

At which point they of course captured Obi-Wan, Anakin and Padme and decided to exucute them while watching on from the stands...........that Senate Spy episode is just aweful, but I can't wait to see Jason Fry try to explain it in the Season 2 Episode guide.

"Well Nute Gunray, Wat Tambor, San Hill and company actually are not an official part of their organizations, and the Seperatists just buy Munificent Class cruisers from the same shipyard the IGBC does."

"Poggle on the otherhand, yeah he's part of the Seperatists but despite him being at that same meeting and them all declaring their loyalty to Dooku with Obi-Wan watching, it was only actually Poggle that was confirmed to be in Dooku's camp."

Now I personally feel the second that the leadership of the Trade Federation is caught red handed in the act of trying to exucute a Republic Senator that they might have been kicked out of the club. Apparently not though, as the Trade Federation is still a "member" of the Republic and the Senate well after those events.

I'm sure Sinre will be along shortly to expalin why this works within canon prefectly, which is good because I still can't sort it out myself.

 

Actually, the CSWE already mentioned the Trade Federation in that capacity - they claim that Nute is rogue. The DH digest Shipyards of Doom mentioned that the IBGC is "neutral" but selling their ships to the Confederacy - and the Senate doesn't want to push them to fully support them, so won't condone all-out attacks. (Much like in the micro-series, the attack on the IBGC shipyards at Gwori are allowed because they are only attacking military targets).
Yeah, it's silly. But when it comes to CWAS, all the EU can do is attempt to clean up the mess.

 

I think the fact that the major members of the Confederacy are essentially corporations which means that their homeworlds have potential deniability aspect to it. They can easily go to the Republic and say "Hey don't blame us, they are rogues!" plus the Republic might not want to punish those worlds as it might just further them into the Separatists camp. At least, thats my understanding of it.

But anyway, yay! Kamino! Nice to see that world again on the show.

 

I think the elephant in the corner has a role in this too.

Which looks something like this:
[image=http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/starwars/images/0/0e/Clonewaryounglings.jpg]

While it's barely been mentioned in any TCW story (LOE did, Medstar might have mentioned it since they had the alien traitor), there's a pretty significant divide in the war besides "clones vs droids." TCW show, with its obsession with fringe bounty hunters and Jedi, has been able to steer clear from this issue thus far.

The reason I think this is somewhat important in the neutrality issue is that the species who were least humanoid, the Skakoans and the Geonosians, got slammed right off the bat. There was conveniently enough evidence to convict them. But let's think: they're both nonhuman xenophobes. That's not going to help in their favor.

Then you've got the more humanoid bunch, like Nute, Passel, and Hill. Their groups (or in the latter case, the individual) were able to stay neutral for some time. The IBC only got a slap on the wrist by the war's end and became a prominent member of the Empire. Their planet was hosting Imperial meetings in the SOTP. Real suspicious, since they aren't a far cry from humans.


Of course, I doubt TCW will touch this subject with a ten foot pole.