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Lit A/V Clone Wars Continuity Discussion (Spoilers Allowed)

Discussion in 'Literature' started by sabarte, May 12, 2008.

  1. DarthMRN

    DarthMRN Jedi Youngling star 3

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    This is just horrible. They are trying to kill the EU. Kill it dead. Poor, sodding Leland...
     
  2. blackmyron

    blackmyron Chosen One star 7

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    Or vice versa... ;)
     
  3. Armchair_Admiral

    Armchair_Admiral Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Lucas never intended Grievous to be the super-effective Jedi destroyer as depicted in The Original Microseries, nor did he ever plan on Aurra Sing from TPM to be a Force-user, nor was he the one to conjure up a backstory for Ventress. He might not care all that much for the alternate universe that exists outside his films, but he surely isn't contradicting his previous home-grown material. [face_shame_on_you]
     
  4. GGrievous

    GGrievous Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    Yeah; sadly, Lucas wanted Grievous to be this slimy villain, mainly a coward who tends to run away.
     
  5. blackmyron

    blackmyron Chosen One star 7

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    Then he should've never had his licensing company put THE AUTHORIZED CONTINUATION OF THE LEGENDARY STAR WARS SAGA on Heir to the Empire. Lucas has made certain people, places and events off-limits before. He needs to make up his mind if he wants to make all the non-TV/film "meaningless" or keep it.

    That would be wonderful if he didn't care about the EU and didn't use one single instance from it. The problem is that he's been strip-mining out-of-context pieces from it for reasons unknown. I mean, why bother? Why not just create your own Twi'lek homeworld, or Sith trainee working for Dooku? Who is this appealing to? Kids could care less and EU fans are just irritated.
    I know Lucas' feelings on the subject - I carry it in my sig. But I'll be glad when the series ends and the EU can proceed with clean-up duty.
    Han Solo begs to differ.
     
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  6. RaidonMakoto

    RaidonMakoto Jedi Youngling star 1

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    Not only that, but the EU has always been advertised as the "official continuation of the films." If the EU is 'fake,' then I've been defrauded. If that is the case, I want every single dollar I put into Star Wars books and comics back.
     
  7. fistofan1

    fistofan1 Jedi Master star 4

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    no. No. NO. NO! I was okay with Grievous becoming a Jedi wannabe. I was okay with Mandalorians being peaceful. But if they destroy Ventress' backstory, I might lose it. :mad:
     
  8. GGrievous

    GGrievous Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    I've also heard something about Aurra Sing not being a Force-sensitive any longer. Can someone clarify that?
     
  9. Valin__Kenobi

    Valin__Kenobi Author: Tinker, Tailor, Soldier, Praji star 4 VIP

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    Did they say on the panel if Dathomir was going to be featured, or are we just conjecturing from the reuse of that Sith Witch concept art?
     
  10. The2ndQuest

    The2ndQuest Tri-Mod With a Mouth star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    I don't know about the last name but in the clip Lucas showed, they only said his first name and it was pronounced Suh-vaj (rhymes garage) and Lucas said it was Maul's brother. His design is basically the Visionaries Maul without the cyborged legs, but with the long horns, etc.

    Having failed as an apprentice canidate, Ventress seeks out a worthy apprentice for Dooku, but one she hopes to control- and this is where Savvage comes in

    It may or may not affect Venteess's backstory significantly- this warrior enclave seems to have several species.

    Papanoida was seemingly harass and was duel-wielding blasters
     
  11. melkor834

    melkor834 Jedi Master star 3

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    Rest of the article.
     
  12. Valin__Kenobi

    Valin__Kenobi Author: Tinker, Tailor, Soldier, Praji star 4 VIP

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    At the time, I got from it that Darth Maul and his brother were also from Ventress' planet, but I went into sort of catatonic shock for most of that clip so that might not be reliable...
     
  13. Armchair_Admiral

    Armchair_Admiral Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Lucas has always been clear concerning his views of the EU:

    George Lucas has always viewed the EU as some sort of separate universe from his own work, and that he has never been obliged to conform to the separate universe. While Lucas?s previous fixation with the ?pivotal? points of the SW Saga has resulted in minimal problems in the past, it?s only understandable that more toes will be stepped on now that the Creator is interested in the less ?pivotal? aspects of the Saga, which had been solely the province of the EU.

    Ergo, every part of the SW universe is ?real? so long as it conforms to Lucas?s vision. If something in the EU doesn?t conform for whatever reason... then that?s just the way it is. So what if Lucas changed his mind a few years ago and decided to expand his universe himself? He owns the SW universe, and so it is the responsibility of the EU to conform to whatever whims the Creator has.
     
  14. Valin__Kenobi

    Valin__Kenobi Author: Tinker, Tailor, Soldier, Praji star 4 VIP

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    Please let's don't drag this into another canon debate that we've covered in this thread a hundred times now.
     
  15. blackmyron

    blackmyron Chosen One star 7

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    Being from Dathomir won't affect her backstory significantly? Well, I can see it bending but not breaking her established continuity, but this is just the trailer - I have a feeling that the entire "being found by a Jedi" backstory is going out the window.
    I was more intrigued by Lucas apparently stating that the Dathomiri aren't necessarily Force-users...
     
  16. Robimus

    Robimus Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    Oh dear. I hope we don't meet Maul's mom and dad as well.

    This sounds stupid.

    I imagine they will have a massive hextaganol city home to some 50 billion locals, all men, because women don't exist on Dathomir:p
     
  17. RC-1991

    RC-1991 Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Let's just make TCW and all of its associated continuity clusterkarks a separate continuity and be done with it. While the continuity remains contiguous.

    ...And Im getting out of this debate before it gets ugly. Last time was bad enough...
     
  18. LivingJediDream

    LivingJediDream Jedi Master star 4

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    I think LFL would rather stubbornly have this dis-continuity than have two continuities.
     
  19. RC-1991

    RC-1991 Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    I know. That's what ticks me off.
     
  20. Charlemagne19

    Charlemagne19 Chosen One star 8

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    I'm sure they'll retcon it properly eventually.
     
  21. Garth Maul

    Garth Maul Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    I think this is the way many fans are headed.
     
  22. GGrievous

    GGrievous Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    Agreed.
     
  23. Charlemagne19

    Charlemagne19 Chosen One star 8

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    Honestly, as a Highlander fan, I'm just happy picking and choosing.

    Learn to live like we do.

    You don't KNOW continuity snarl until you're a Highlander fan.

    Your complaining amuses us!

    [face_devil]
     
  24. Armchair_Admiral

    Armchair_Admiral Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Would things truely be better off if CWAS had a seperate continuity from the rest of the EU? A good portion of dedicated fans would still demand retcons that allow for C-canon to remain consistant with CWAS... [face_worried]
     
  25. ThisIsMadness91

    ThisIsMadness91 Jedi Knight star 2

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    *chokes on his breakfast* Seriously?! I can't believe the Republic Commando series got cancelled because of this show!