PT Could Anakin and Obi Wan have taken Dooku in AOTC?

If Anakin hadn’t charged right in on his own and coordinated with Obi Wan do you think they would have lasted longer in that duel or even have beat Dooku or were they going to fail either way?

 

Good question. I would say no. We saw what happened in ROTS when they DID work as a team. Dooku was able to separate them both and knock Obi-Wan out of commission. And Anakin in AOTC is not refined enough skillwise or able to use his anger to his advantage like does in ROTS.

When Dooku taunts Anakin in Episode 3, Anakin is able to harness that anger to aggressively drive Dooku back. I think Episode 2 Anakin getting angry and using the dark side would be similar to ROTJ Luke in that it would be messy and chaotic. I think Dooku would be able to exploit that in Anakin at this time.

 

Well I think it's not the same because;
https://boards.theforce.net/threads/did-dooku-cheat-during-the-duel.50054390/
Dooku took help in that duel, even a small momentary distraction is very fatal in the Star Wars duels.

Probably yeah, he was still not good enough to take on Dooku alone, but together with Kenobi? It was possible if he really listened Kenobi, and if he went ''slowly on the left''.

 

While they might've had a better showing had they worked as a team, ultimately I think the end result would have been the same.

They just weren't at that level needed (individually or as a unit) to seriously take on a swordsman of Dooku's level yet.

 

If we accept the premise that they couldn’t win anyway, is Anakins reckless charge less immature?

 

I don’t think Anakin was ready at that point. He would’ve still lost.

 

They almost surely would have performed better had they worked together, Obi-Wan knew he couldn't take Dooku alone after all.
We really don't know how the fight would have gone differently had he not rushed in, but I don't doubt it would have been a closer fight had he not done so.
Maybe they would have held out long enough for Yoda to arrive and turn the tide? I don't think Anakin was as powerful as he was in ROTS, but he clearly held his own for a short while against Dooku in AOTC. The Count even looked a little tired by the end of it.

 

Yes, this exactly, which is why they performed a great deal better together in ROTS against Dooku. I expect Anakin could have taken Dooku without giving into the dark side, too, but he was too insecure and opted for brute force.

 

I don’t think Anakin and Obi Wan would have beaten Dooku regardless, all though it’s obvious Anakin’s approach was unfavorable.

Now if Obi Wan and Anakin were able to stay in the duel uninjured long enough for Yoda to arrive, I think it’s possible Dooku could have been caught then or even killed.

 

Anakin needed the Clone Wars to turn him into an AAA Tier lightsaber duelist, while Obi-wan never got above AA Tier himself. Dooku was solidly AAA Tier, so no, I doubt they'd be able to beat him.

 

Absolutely agree.

 

In AOTC.... no way.

At the last part of ROTS however, BOTH Anakin as Vader and Obi-Wan after his Greivous duel has grown in power.

That as individuals they could have beaten Dooku without the other.

 

I actually think that if Anakin and Obi Wan truly did act as a team they still would've struggled. When seeing Dooku against Yoda, it was clear they were no match for him. Not to mention Dooku seems to "cheat" a lot in dueling, meaning he uses the Force to incapacitate his opponents rather than face them directly. This would've proved difficult for Obi-Wan and Anakin, who by the point of AOTC didn't seem all that adept at lightsaber dueling yet-at least not by his own standards in ROTS.

 

Considering how easily Dooku dispatched of Obi-Wan in Revenge of the Sith, their duel in the hangar would've wound up just the same.

 

But he couldn't dispatch the same Kenobi easily in AotC? I think every duel is different, and I think it's the reason why Dooku dispatched Obi-Wan easily because as Dooku admitted in the novel, he cheated by using 2 super battle droids, which give him enough time to do that. We've also other duels in the Clone Wars before Revenge of the Sith, where Anakin and Obi-Wan defeated Dooku more than once.


''They had defeated the Sith again''
--- Star Wars Fact File 055 v3 (2015)

 

Had Anakin stayed upright....still no, but had they delayed Dooku enough till Yoda walks in then that would be interesting. Dooku possibly would have found a way to escape still.

 

"Apparently not." - Anakin Skywalker

 

Anakin not listening and jumping in first is the whole point of the scene.

 

well considering Obi-Wan was about to tell Anakin his whole strategy on how to take Dooku down right in front of him, I'd say the answer is a categorical NO.

'we'll take him together, you go in slowly on the left...(and get behind him. I'll edge slightly to the right and stamp on his foot, I'll then wink at you to pull his cape) '

Obi-Wan playing chess against Kasparov: "I'll move my rook, freeing my bishop to take your queen in two moves"

 

I don't know. I believe only Lucas can answer that question.

 

Skill gap was too large at this time so no.

 

I would say it would have lasted a lot longer than the few minutes we got had Anakin not charged in. In the end, Dooku's knowledge of Obi and Anakins inexperience, Dooku would have defeated them. Not without being iced a bit himself I'd say. Anakin would have maybe kept his arm.

 

I don't think they could've defeated Dooku, but they certainly could've kept the fight going long enough for Yoda to show up, and then Dooku would've been up Sith creek.

I assume one of the points of this sequence is to illustrate that if Anakin hadn't been acting on negative emotions he could've done a lot of good for the Galaxy. But instead his actions facilitated Dooku's escape, and he lost an arm.

 

Anakin completely ignores Obi Wan's plan and just rushes in. If he followed Obi Wan's plan they had a chance.