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PT Could Anakin and Obi Wan have taken Dooku in AOTC?

Discussion in 'Prequel Trilogy' started by StartCenterEnd, Oct 5, 2020.

  1. Dandy

    Dandy Jedi Knight star 1

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    :p
     
  2. christophero30

    christophero30 Chosen One star 10

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    I mean, you'd have to assume there was some training involving what they would do if they encountered a Sith or an enemy. And I'm pretty sure it didn't involve Anakin racing at him alone. There is a deleted scene in ROTS where Obi Wan and Anakin have hand signals for different strategies when they are rescuing the chancellor.
     
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  3. Dandy

    Dandy Jedi Knight star 1

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    "you go in slowly on the left...no Anakin! no NO!"

    unless Dooku didn't know what the words 'left' and 'slowly' meant then yeah I see your point, they were talking code.
     
  4. christophero30

    christophero30 Chosen One star 10

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    Well there might have been more to the plan than going in on the left.
     
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  5. Dandy

    Dandy Jedi Knight star 1

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    my point was it seemed he was going to blurt out the whole strategy right there in front of him :p

    whether that is true or not is anyone's guess, but let's say it was, Anakin just rushing in amounted to the same thing, regardless.
     
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  6. christophero30

    christophero30 Chosen One star 10

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    True. Anakin's impatience/defiance certainly did not help and got them both injured.
     
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  7. gezvader28

    gezvader28 Two Truths & Lie winner! star 6 VIP - Game Winner

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    I guess he might've said something like "Go to the left and remember that manover we did on Saleucami VII."
     
  8. HevyDevy

    HevyDevy Chosen One star 5

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    I found the dialogue a little weak there tbh.

    I mean “you go in slowly on the left” would sound awkward if it wasn’t for Anakin to immediately disobey and charge in.
     
  9. Dandy

    Dandy Jedi Knight star 1

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    be funny if Anakin would have said "no remind me"
     
  10. MidKnighT

    MidKnighT Force Ghost star 4

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    It would have been a better match but Dooku would have prevailed. I think the beginning of ROTS makes that clear when he held off a more powerful Obi Wan and Anakin for a while.

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  11. Darth Dnej

    Darth Dnej Jedi Master star 4

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    Could they? Well, it would be possible. But would they do it 51% or more of the time? No. Even working as a team, the AOTC versions of these Jedi would prevail 40% of the time or less.
    Dooku was either still at his peak or slightly past it in Revenge of the Sith and managed to knock Obi-Wan out. An Obi-Wan at his peak age/accolades who would fight evenly with Pre-Suit Vader and goad him into a risky leap. By most accounts, Dooku should've been killed before he could knock Obi-Wan out. But he still did well considering when you take into account the massive power of Obi-Wan and Anakin.
    The most I could see happening is Anakin and Obi-Wan avoiding lightsaber injuries from Dooku. And as he's about to double down and finish the fight, Yoda arrives. Dooku would flee right away.
    All in all, Anakin and Obi-Wan were not one of the better bets to capture Dooku. If the surviving Jedi came up with a better plan over a commlink discussion in the gunships, they could have...
    -Sent Mace Windu. And if you're not sure if he could surpass Dooku, give him Aayla or someone else to help.
    -Sent Yoda
    -Sent Plo Koon and Kit Fisto
     
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  12. cantthinkofone

    cantthinkofone Jedi Knight star 2

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    no. 100% not a chance in hell.

    in the war, both anakin and obi-wan became much more experience and powerful than the were before the war. and that is why anakin could defeat him. before the war (and all the experience that comes with it with the sword), dooku was simply superior to them in every way. he was stronger with the force, he was stronger with the lightsaber, he was more mature with his feelings.
    in AOTC they were child-play to him.
     
  13. Darth Invictus

    Darth Invictus Force Ghost star 5

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    Dooku is a far superior duelist and force user than both of them. Anakin's decision to charge in without thinking just made it easier, but Dooku really wasn't at risk at all I think during the entire engagement.
     
  14. Kato Sai

    Kato Sai Chosen One star 8

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    Dooku defeating Anakin and Obi was I believe meant to show the Chosen One the Power of the Dark Side, and show that even well trained Jedi like Kenobi and one with great potential like Ani are no match for the dark sids.
     
  15. Darth Invictus

    Darth Invictus Force Ghost star 5

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    Dooku really wasn't trying that hard in all honesty. That isn't to say he was toying with them, but it's clear that he was the superior of both and was really just keeping them at bay until he could flee the planet.
     
  16. Kato Sai

    Kato Sai Chosen One star 8

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    He certainly was toying with Kenobi, but after his duel with Anakin he looks worn out:

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  17. Darth Invictus

    Darth Invictus Force Ghost star 5

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    Possibly, though it could just be him being dramatic-he is the count of Serenno after all.
     
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  18. Kato Sai

    Kato Sai Chosen One star 8

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    I think it was real, not for show. There was no need to look tired, Kenobi and Anakin both on the floor and neutralized. Dooku’s face changes after panting when he senses Yoda.
     
  19. DARTHLINK

    DARTHLINK Force Ghost star 4

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    I thought he was disappointed, like ‘Wow, Sidious had such hopes for you and I wiped the floor with you.’
     
  20. Dandelo

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    I thought it was a mixture of tiredness and reflection.

    But when he sensed Yoda the bravado, puffed up chest suave returned.
     
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  21. christophero30

    christophero30 Chosen One star 10

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    Or it could be that Christopher Lee was well into his 80's. :p
     
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  22. Dandelo

    Dandelo SW and Film Music Interview Host star 10 VIP - Game Host

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    you saying that Lucas just randomly shoots actors after he yells 'CUT' and puts it in his movies? :p

    saying that I was just reminded of Cinemasins: everything wrong with ROTS

    "Lucas records BTS footage of his actors talking "

    Anakin: what kind of nonsense is this?

    always makes me chuckle :p

    anyway: yeah Dooku would wipe the floor and twice on Wednesdays with both of 'em in ROTS :p
     
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  23. Kato Sai

    Kato Sai Chosen One star 8

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    My thoughts as well.
     
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