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Full Series Darth Maul in Star Wars Rebels

Discussion in 'Star Wars TV- Completed Shows' started by StarWarsFan91, May 22, 2013.

  1. Erkan12

    Erkan12 Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Filoni is biased. A producer of that calibre shouldn't mix his emotions into this.
     
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  2. Darth_Accipiter

    Darth_Accipiter Force Ghost star 6

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    Ahsoka's agility versus Vader's near absolute defense meant it had to be a prolonged duel. Also, neither Ahsoka or Vader had trekked through a desert for force-knows how long before their duel.
    With Kenobi vs Maul, Maul was battered, exhausted and mentally unstable. Kenobi on the other hand was prepared. Maul, overconfident and blinded by hate, rushed Kenobi and was swiftly cut down.
    Ahsoka put up a good fight, wounding Vader, but Vader's godlike endurance won out after a drawn-out confrontation.

    But Maul is originally from the films and Ahsoka is from animation, so Filoni is biased. gotcha.
     
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  3. CloneofVader

    CloneofVader Jedi Knight star 2

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    Sam Witwer Talks Darth Maul:
    http://fullofsith.com/archives/2021
    I highly suggest you listen this.
    About 29.00
    Witwer discuss why Maul lost so quickly. Also he says that Maul was certain in his victory he clearly not planning to die.
     
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  4. The Legions of Lettow

    The Legions of Lettow Jedi Master star 5

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    You may be right about Ben and Yoda. I thought rGL had said years ago that they were training Luke to kill Vader, albeit without giving into the dark side to do so.
     
  5. Orrelios

    Orrelios Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    When Maul first showed up on the series (and more so when they started to build up to a final duel between him and Obi-Wan) I imagined that the duel between the two would be pretty much exactly as it was presented here (Obi-Wan swiftly dispatching Maul without breaking much of a sweat) and I'm glad it turned out that way instead of an more elaborate duel. It was full with emotion and very intense just as it should have been; it was the last stand between these two old enemies and something more would have been unnecessary. To me the way it went down felt natural as well as fitting (and the samurai-like style of it made it quite memorable).

    Since they last met, Obi-Wan had trained, honed his skills & ascended in a sense while Maul had been wallowing around in his hate and bitterness with a lust for revenge and was still as arrogant as ever, thinking that Obi-Wan would be no match for him. It was never much of a challenge so to me it was clear from the start that their fight would be over quickly and that Obi-Wan would be the one to end it (you could say that Maul was a hundred years too early to face Obi-Wan as he had turned out and Maul in his final moments he realized that he had been wrong about the current state of his nemesis).

    That they gave Maul (one of the most sinister characters) an emotional exit, being cradled in Obi-Wan's arms and putting his trust in the new Chosen One before he passes on, was great and worked surprisingly well. He had a good run on both TCW and Rebels and I'm glad they ended his story around now and in this rather poignant way.
     
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  6. Erkan12

    Erkan12 Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Twin suns = Anakin & Luke are both chosen one, is a nice idea too.
     
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  7. TaradosGon

    TaradosGon Manager Emeritus star 5 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    I would not have thought he was planning to die, considering he told Ezra he'd see him later.

    Still, I think he found peace in death.

    When he was cut in half, his hatred kept him alive and even overran his sanity in a desperate effort to keep him alive.

    Here, he seems to accept his death, hoping that he'll be avenged but not tapping into anger in desperation to survive.

    Seems like he wanted resolution one way or the other, and while he planned on winning, death gave him some measure of peace too.

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  8. Vialco

    Vialco Force Ghost star 5

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    Some excellent points. Filoni has a very slanted view of some aspects of Star Wars. I mentioned elsewhere that Obi-Wan absolutely wants Luke to kill Vader and the Emperor. Because he sees him as the Chosen One, whose destiny is to destroy the Sith.

    Luke is the one that defies the Jedi and their dogmatic ways when he chooses not to strike down his father.
     
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  9. Mother_Talzin

    Mother_Talzin Jedi Master star 4

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    I fall into the camp that believes Maul and Kenobi have grown rather similar by the time of Rebels. They're essentially hermits that want to bring down the Empire and replace it with something else. Both believe the Sith should be killed, but for different reasons. Whether those reasons are selfish or altruistic, they desire the same result.
     
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  10. DANNASUK

    DANNASUK Force Ghost star 7

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    Well, the Journal of the Whills appears in TFA novel:

    "First comes the day Then comes the night. After the darkness Shines through the light. The difference, they say, Is only made right By the resolving of gray Through refined Jedi sight." ―Journal of the Whills, 7:477
     
  11. Vialco

    Vialco Force Ghost star 5

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    So the Prequel Jedi's thousand years of peace was the day.

    Palpatine's rule was the night.

    The Return of the Jedi was the light shining through the darkness.


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  12. DANNASUK

    DANNASUK Force Ghost star 7

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    No, no it wasn't.
     
  13. Sannom

    Sannom Jedi Master star 3

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    Sleep well, sweet Sith.

    And I guess we should bit farewell to this thread as well, I don't see it having much activity in the future. Also, I think those tributes/farewell addresses posted on the episode topic should be put here as well, as is only natural :

     
  14. Jedi Knight Fett

    Jedi Knight Fett Chosen One star 10

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    I at least hope it reaches a hundred pages. I'm actually surprised that YouTube hasn't been full of Maul tributes though.

    It's going to be interesting where they use the character in the future. I could see him getting a book.
     
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  15. ManWithoutAStar

    ManWithoutAStar Jedi Knight star 3

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    @Jedi Knight Fett

    I can imagine a book about Maul's journey during the dark times. Running from inqusitors, search for some lost Sith lore, return to Malachor etc. Something like Ahsoka novel, but with Maul as a lead character.
     
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  16. CloneofVader

    CloneofVader Jedi Knight star 2

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  17. Rickleo123

    Rickleo123 Jedi Knight star 3

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    This is definitely not the END of Maul, I'm sure comics, books, novels and hell who knows maybe an appearance in an anthology movie are all possible. Disney would never bury a popular character when they can still make money off of him. To be honest, I think they're hoping Kylo Ren becomes a popular villain to replace Vader but Ren is just a cheap looking knockoff lacking any originality(typical JJ) I dont see him getting the same fame as Maul has. Maul I see ranked right after Vader in most Top Star Wars Villain polls because he just looked so cool, different, original etc....
     
  18. ManWithoutAStar

    ManWithoutAStar Jedi Knight star 3

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    Actually, Ren's inability to be like Vader is what's appealing about him. You cannot deny that he is original in at least this regard.
    But I agree, Maul may have died, but he will continue to pop up somewhere in some format sooner or later.
     
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  19. Sannom

    Sannom Jedi Master star 3

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    Yeah, Kylo Ren being a cheap knock-off of Darth Vader is an integral and intentional aspect of his character. Maybe that he sells less toys, but that's less important.
     
  20. Jedi Knight Fett

    Jedi Knight Fett Chosen One star 10

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    I mean to Disney I think they care about what makes money
     
  21. Ithorians

    Ithorians Jedi Master star 4

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    I think Maul is going to continue to show up in Star Wars media, because he has become a very complex character that developed greatly in TCW/Rebels... he is now one of the most interesting characters in Star Wars (to me at least). The other day I saw the final duel of TPM (a movie mostly unbearable to me, made interesting again thanks to this) just to see how the perspective of the duel changed with what Rebels added to his storyline... it feels like a pivotal moment full of content now, running much deeper into the saga´s lore than before.

    Besides, there is still a great deal to know about him, not just with pre-TPM stories like Marvel´s comic, but also the story behind him getting to Malachor, knowing about Vader and the Inquisitors, getting stranded there, etc...
     
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  22. Jedi Knight Fett

    Jedi Knight Fett Chosen One star 10

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    I wonder how many years occured before he was stranded on Malacore
     
  23. mihaitzateo

    mihaitzateo Jedi Knight star 3

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    I would have preferred to see Darth Maul in a movie like Rogue One.
    He was a too great character, to be killed in a cartoon episode, but is Disney and Lucas call.
    (Lucas is 2nd largest shareholder in Disney, if he did not bought more shares, to become first largest shareholder,in Disney).
     
  24. Jedi Knight Fett

    Jedi Knight Fett Chosen One star 10

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    Just because he has a boat load of Shares doesn't mean he has any creative input into a story. He gave that up when he sold the business
     
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  25. mihaitzateo

    mihaitzateo Jedi Knight star 3

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    That is the official version.
    In Rogue One and Force Awakens there is too much "Indiana Jones" influence, that Lucas would not have participated at producing those movies.
    Disney kept Filoni as one of the main writers of Rebels .