ST Darth Plagueis is Snoke? (Episode VIII & IX)

FYI - That post has been edited.

 

Hidalgo said Plagueis is dead. Not was dead. Is dead.
Force ghosts have shown the extraordinary ability to glimmer, smile, and hang out (they can sit on logs too), say "use the Force" and " You will go to Dagobah system ..." and reveal themselves to ... well, Luke.
Making Plagueis, Snoke, would take a huge paradigm shift ... Huge. Like really really big.

 

and darksiders don't know how to become one with the force. they don't even know it's possible.

 

Nice to see a little peace and understanding here for a change.

 

It's fine and sometimes it is maybe too visible that I'm mainly a Luke fan and I will try to at least accept other opinions more. But I will just always hope and pray that Luke's character in this story is handled in a good way.

 

I really hope Snoke is a new baddie.

And I really expect TPTB to make him an extremely complex baddie.

 

Except for the guy that was experimenting in it.

So this guy could create life, and can save people from dying, but it is out of the realm of possibility in this fantasy world that he was able to figure out how to become one with the force?

 

What I find funny is the fact that mods allowed this thread to stay so the Plagueis people have a place to post amongst themselves, yet get bashed from people that they were separated from. I'm not a Plagueis theorist but I have no problem if it were to happen, people act like it would be the worst thing in the world. The worst thing would be if Snoke was somehow Palpatine.

 

dp could only extend his life. he couldn't do any of those other things.

 

How do you know this? Because Palpaltine said so?

The same Palpaltine that told Anakin "I have the power to save the one you love" and then literally a minute and a half later said basically "oh I was just playing, only one has been able to achieve that but if you and I work together we can figure it out."

 

Honestly, this thread is pretty tame historically for such a controversial topic.

 

what's your point? you're agreeing with me.

 

I see Hidalgo is still trolling the fans. I find it far more ridiculous, that an Official member of the Story Group needs to waste his time like this, than I do fans speculating that Snoke = Plagueis. Again, I ask why he doesn't simply answer the question directly, and move on. I mean, lets face it, we are dealing with a movie Franchise that has Jedi who pop up as Force Ghosts; so it is not exactly crazy to theorize that a Sith Lord's Spirit might be able to return to the Realm of the living, by possessing a living body. Hence, "Plagueis is dead, I mean really really dead; Palpatine killed him" doesn't kill the Snoke = Plagueis Theory. I think the real reason people are angry about this Rumor still being alive, is because Plagueis has only been referenced in the Prequels.

 

Fun fact. Pablo flat out confirmed that Snoke is not Sly Moore a few weeks ago. As in "No, Snoke is not Sly Moore." A completely definitive denial.

I think that's why the Plagueis theory is still alive. He has never once said that Plagueis is not Snoke like he has with other theories on who Snoke may be. He quotes actors and Sidious himself from the films, but never utters the words Snoke is not Plagueis. The theory is still alive because Pablo refuses to directly say that Plagueis is not Snoke and never has been. It's always "Plagueis is dead, he was killed by Sidious." Which, with Obi-Wan's "Vader killed your father" could mean that the element of Plagueis is dead and he's reinvented himself.

That's the problem. No definitive putting to rest of the theory like he has with other characters being connected to Snoke.

 

Wait you're a fan of Luke?

 

Watched the opera scene last night....Palpatines face was quite telling when he said "Ironic, he could save others from death but not himself" It was like he was not present then but thinking back to something so in my opinion he was telling the truth....now the question is, was he duped thinking he killed him.

Ive said this before..either I want Snoke to be Plagueis or someone from outside the galaxy. Him being some underling or worse, the big baddie with no backstory would be a letdown.

 

Pablo just definitively ruled that Snoke is not Plagueis.

https://twitter.com/pablohidalgo/status/730511166691262465

So as someone who was holding onto that theory, I'll say it's been debunked.

Definitely disappointed and it's damaged my interest in the ST. Plagueis is and always will be my favorite character in this Saga. Hopefully we at least get a new canon novel surrounding him sometime in the future. If the popularity of the theory has shown anything, it's been a large interest in the character.

Hopefully they at least give us some extremely powerful dark sider from outside the known galaxy. Anything but a non-force using underling, secret apprentice, or random person seeking to fill the vacuum. A head villain without a backstory would be a horrid letdown.

 

I hope he's a satisfying character at least. Or he's just fodder for Crylo to gain his machismo.

 

I watched it today also. For me, the most intriguing part of their talk comes when he says "he could influence the midichlorians to create life," and he gives Anakin (who we know had no father) a strange head turn and look as if he knows something about Anakin's origins...kind of like an "I know something you don't know" type tease.

And of course, the ancient-sounding music volume change when he first says the name Darth Plagueis - but that's already well covered here.

I know we are all repeating ourselves here, but I really feel as though this scene was GL setting up the plot for a potential sequel trilogy. This could be a major foreshadow moment for what's to come. And again, yes this is episode 3, but it is the last movie in real time prior to Force Awakens, meaning that THAT was the time for the set up moment.

 

Well Pablo just flat out said he's not




Let's go back to the other theory

Snoke is ren from back to the future

 

I know some will go bat crazy on this but like was said before TFA...there are no more sith, Snoke is not Plagueis "from a certain point of view" because Darth Plaguies was always just a title, not the actual person so during TFA there is no Darth Plaguies. Snoke could easily be the former Darth Plaguies and now is just himself as he moved on from the SITH philosophy just like the jedi needed to evolve.

 

Yep, highly disappointing. They're going to have to come up with one heck of an interesting backstory to make me care about that character now. He better be some really powerful dark sider from the Unknown Regions and not some washed up guy filling the vacuum, secret apprentice, or non-force using military guy.

 

lol.

 

The issue I have with and others have stated is that you have this 9 movie story and the first 6 have the Sith as the central antagonist and the last 3 will introduce a new enemy not affiliated with the sith. I get others wanting something NEW but it just seems off.

 

BlueHenDave
Especially when you think about the parallels the theory could possibly have with Luke Reforming the Jedi where THEY failed, you could've had Darth Plagueis (Snoke) Reforming the Sith where THEY failed. would be kinda cool IMO.