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ST Domhnall Gleeson (General Hux) in Episode VII

Discussion in 'Sequel Trilogy' started by Momotaros, Apr 30, 2014.

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  1. T-R-

    T-R- Chosen One star 5

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    He was asked if he played a Skywalker, he said answering that question would reveal the plot. He did not say he could not comment on his role as that would spoil the plot.

    He was not asked about his ROLE but about being the son of Luke Skywalker. So, who's changing quotes now? ;)

    We can agree to disagree, but his response was in answer to a question regarding being Luke's son, not what role his character had.
     
  2. Luukeskywalker

    Luukeskywalker Force Ghost star 5

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    I think our only hope of Luke having a son in this new trilogy comes down to two possible scenarios. Otherwise I think we will be out of luck:

    1. The General turns out to be Luke's son. But based on MSW's info, he won't be undercover. So it would have to be a scenerio in which he is a bad person who is revealed to be the son of Skywalker in a twist revelation. I suppose it could be revealed in TFA, but it is looking more and more likely that if this were to be revealed at some point, he would have to survive 7, and then the reveal wouldn't come until 8.

    2. Part of the plot of 8 and 9 revolves around the discovery of Luke's long lost son, which would be portrayed by another/new actor that Rian Johnson would cast for 8. One of the known story points for Lucas' original sequel trilogy outline was Luke in search of his long lost sister before it became Leia. That was when the ST was going to be a direct continuation of the OT without skipping forward a generation, when Luke and company were still young adults. Now that the ST takes place a generation later and Leia is now the sister, I could see them riffing on that original idea, and just making it be a long lost son. Could make for a very intreging storyline.

    Of course, it could turn out that Gleeson's character IS the long lost son, which could be a revelation in 8.

    If Gleeson dies in 7 without such a revelation, then the only other scenerio would be they would have to cast a new actor to play the part in 8.

    At that point would it seem just like a mere side story with the new main trio already established? Would one of them die and the son becomes one of the leads once introduced? Or maybe it becomes a lead 4-some and all 4 just share the screentime as much as possible?

    Maybe Luke simply won't have a son.
     
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  3. Darth_Bertie

    Darth_Bertie Force Ghost star 6

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    I think it would be a stupid move not to carry on the Skywalker name. But IMO Skywalker should be front and center of the saga, not a secondary lead or even worse, a secondary villain. If Gleeson role is what MSW claims and he is Luke´s son then well, what a crap.

    I like option B of the ones you have listed. But this trilogy seems to be a sister vs brother thing. A Solo trilogy. So introducing a new Skywalker like that seems unlikely to me.
     
  4. sterling3763

    sterling3763 Jedi Master star 4

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    I think in a week (or definitely by December) we'll discover that people placed too much emphasis on Dom's response to that question. His NDA likely prohibits him from answering whether he's a Skywalker or not because even if he says no he narrows the possibilities. He'd probably have to say avoid giving a yes or no answer to whether he played Leia in a flashback or Wattoo.

    Re: the Skywalker son thing: If Luke's been gone for 15 years or so (maybe more) he could have had a kid while in exile. Unlikely, but possible. We know nothing about what he's been up to all these years. Who's to say that after he and Rey do the lightsaber hand off, he doesn't invite her in to meet her aunt and cousin. Assuming a 3 year gap, the kid could be 17-18 in Episode VIII.

    Or maybe Luke's just childless. We'll see.
     
  5. starocean90

    starocean90 Chosen One star 8

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    I think even at the end of VII we can't say for sure Luke has no kids as Luke has almost no screen time and I doubt the flashback can expand on everything he did in 30 years. :)
     
  6. Hoggsquattle

    Hoggsquattle Jedi Master star 5

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    That would mean that Luke will be off limits - to a degree - in the pre-TFA novels, etc.until after Episode VIII at least, if a wife or child(ren) are going to be introduced in the later movies.
     
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  7. starocean90

    starocean90 Chosen One star 8

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    the only current pre-TFA novels/comics between now and release that could include Luke are
    is Star Wars Aftermath that may or may not have Luke
    Star Wars Shattered Empire
    Star Wars Journey to the Force Awakens-C-3PO
    and that's it and then Episode VIII is released only a year and a half after VII, so they could still leave the story of Luke and his wife to be told after VIII is released unless one of the VII characters is his kid.:p
     
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  8. Hoggsquattle

    Hoggsquattle Jedi Master star 5

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    Aftermath takes place immediately after RotJ, so I would imagine Luke is in it.

    EDIT: Sorry that bit confused me at first ;)
     
  9. thejeditraitor

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  10. DarthLightlyBruise

    DarthLightlyBruise Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    I hope Luke is childless. He doesn't need a child to carry on his legacy. Rey, and any others he trains, will essentially be his adopted children.
     
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  11. Toonimator

    Toonimator Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    ...and I hope he's got a child, since so much of his journey in the OT was about his father and family, and Yoda said to him the Force ran strong in his family, so he should pass on what he's learned... best bet for a potential new Jedi is having some kids of his own to pass it along to. Like Tenzin in Legend of Korra, having a bunch of kids who could become Airbenders, who were all but extinct (of course a later development unlocked a ton of new Airbenders from other nations, but...still. Tenzin didn't know any of that would happen! Luke may not know he'll be able to find, for certain, any new Force-sensitives to train outside of his own family)
     
  12. DarthLightlyBruise

    DarthLightlyBruise Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    I just see Luke as the wanderer type. Him having a child simply rubs me the wrong way.
     
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  13. CGI-BOBAFENT

    CGI-BOBAFENT Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Agreed, and as a keen advocate for adoption, Lucas has never struck me as someone who would insist bloodline is the only way to leave a legacy.
     
  14. Lurknomore

    Lurknomore Jedi Knight star 4

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    Why, though? We have Luke Skywalker and he's not going anywhere. Disney could churn out books, comics, video games, and animated TV shows about his adventures after ROTJ ad infinitum.

    Fictional characters don't die, so they don't really need to pass their names onto the next generation. Luke Skywalker can just be THE Skywalker hero forever.
     
  15. JediAce1

    JediAce1 Force Ghost star 5

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    The force does run strong in his family. That's where Leia, Rey and Kylo come in.
     
  16. nightangel

    nightangel Force Ghost star 6

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    sitting 10+ years on a mountaintop doesn't sound like being a wanderer. o_O
     
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  17. nightangel

    nightangel Force Ghost star 6

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    I would have loved to add some big action figures or a new lightsaber of one of Luke's kids to my Luke collection. So no merchandise for me, since also Luke won't be really featured in the franchise for TFA. =((

    And regarding the adopting thing that some people always mention, Rey/Finn are already adults, so whom should Luke adopt??? [face_dunno]
     
  18. Hoggsquattle

    Hoggsquattle Jedi Master star 5

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    I do find it hard to believe that Disney and Lucasfilm would pass on the marketability of the name attached to a new younger character, and I would be very surprised if this turned out to be the case.

    From the first announcement of the sale and the ST, it seemed so obvious that it would be at least one new Skywalker. It isn't that it "absolutely needs a Skywalker" or "isn't Star Wars without a Skywalker", just that it seemed logical between the iconic name on lunch boxes with new young hero/herione.

    It does seem as though there is no child, based on rumours and the cast announced, but the idea of Luke's "limited presence" on screen could easily mean a Skywalker Jnr. has gone undetected by rumour mongers or will be introduced in Episode VIII. Possibly. ;)

    However, you've made a very good point Lurknomore. Not having a new Skywalker doesn't actually mean that Skywalkers are being dropped from the franchise anymore than killing Han or ending the EU means that they will cease to exist. They will always be around.

    And Old Man Luke is just as marketable as a son or daughter. :)

    Anyway, I'd be surprised if there wasn't a child, or children, and I think it would be great if there was, but, as I've said before, if there isn't I won't be grabbing a torch and pitchfork or throwing myself into the gutter where there is grinding and gnashing of teeth. ;)


    Well, action figures and such aren't important anyway, but when has "limited screentime" meant a character can't appear all over merchandise or have an action figure. I mean how many minutes of the OT is Boba Fett actually in compared to the amount of merchandising around him?

    And nearly every being that appears on screen has an action figure.
     
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  19. Satipo

    Satipo Force Ghost star 7

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    Very good point. Had never thought of that.
     
  20. Hoggsquattle

    Hoggsquattle Jedi Master star 5

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    True, but Disney and Kennedy are calling the shots now so there will be different reasoning behind such decisions. Iger could easily say he wants a new Skywalker or he doesn't care at all.
     
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  21. Han Drolo

    Han Drolo Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    This is good stuff , bruhv.
     
  22. Darth_Bertie

    Darth_Bertie Force Ghost star 6

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    Of course bloodline is not the only way to leave a legacy, yet Lucas based his saga in the bloodline, even the ST it seems.

    I don´t think there is an option more valid than the other. It´s just a matter of personal preferences.
     
  23. darth_mccartney

    darth_mccartney Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    So you guys think that in the years between ROTJ and TFA that Luke put away his laser sword and whipped out his pork sword. Interesting. Everyone has needs, I guess!
     
  24. turnip white

    turnip white Jedi Master star 4

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    Nice metaphor [face_rofl]
     
  25. -LordSkywalker-

    -LordSkywalker- Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    I want to see Luke have a son because as Luke concluded his hero's journey in the inverse manner as Anakin, I would like Luke's aftermath be the inverse of Anakin's. Luke and his son could help (with others also of course) rebuild the galaxy, rather than "rule it", as father and son. I believe there are powerful opportunities in that story. Just my two cents.
     
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