Dooku's fencing style. Am I missing something?

Count Dooku is supposed to fight in a different way than most other Jedi. It's supposed to be circular, front-and-back, thrust-and-parry, pretty linear rather than circular. A Zorro rather than a Maximus.

If you read the AotC novelisation, it describes it perfectly. I read the novel before I watched the movie, so I was bitterly disappointed when I saw Dooku's "unique" style - because it wasn't unique at all. It was all circular, and the only time Dooku uses one hand is the first two parries of Obi-wan's blows and the first three or so parries of Anakin's blows. The rest is all two-handed business.

 

I was kind of bummed that Lee didn't do more "Fencing" since I have seen him do it in other movies and the "Many Faces of Lee" DVD.

I guess the fight cordinator is to blame for this...

Just out of curiosity, did Dooku run Obi's leg through...? How come he didn't get up?

 

The forms 1-7 stuff is made up and does not apply in the movies. At least not consistently.

 

Just out of curiosity, did Dooku run Obi's leg through...? How come he didn't get up?

Obi-Wan suffered nerve damage when Dooku stabbed him. Obi-Wan couldn't get up for a short while because he would be in too much pain and wouldn't be able to help much.

 

Dooku does have a fencing(ish) style and on a few occasions uses actual fencing moves.

It's probable that each Jedi is roughly taught the 7 forms and then latch on to a particular one(s) which they then develop into their own highly unique styles based on their preferences.

Makes sense, yes?

 

Yes.

 

"Dooku does have a fencing(ish) style and on a few occasions uses actual fencing moves."

Where? I must've missed that.

 

He makes 3 swipes using one hand. Thats his "fencing style."

He definately does have a unique style. Every person in SW has one that is uniquely their own.

The form I-VII stuff -- Its all hogwash.

Fun to read, and makes Mace even more suspicious than he already is in the movie.

Thats all its purposed for. It has accomplished its purpose.

 

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"He makes 3 swipes using one hand. Thats his "fencing style.""

Luke uses one hand both in ESB and Jedi against Vader. Vader does once as well. The style thing is really a result of the actors not some great plan.

 

NOW youre catching on.

Notice the quotation marks on "style?"

 

By George! We've cracked it.

 

He makes 3 swipes using one hand.

When was this? Or, if it's easier, who was he fighting?

 

While it's not completely "fencing" I can see why people describe it that way. He uses many one handed strikes, but he almost always parries with two hands. This is because when parrying he needs to have more stopping power so he uses two hands instead of one. Now he also uses two hands to strike sometimes but, like I said, it's not completely fencing, it still has a taste of the two handed-version. I think the best example of Dooku using a fencing style is when anakin has two lightsabres. Not only does dooku use one hand, but also his stance is very, very fencing-esque.

But I want you to remember that Kenobi and Anakin aren't solely using kendo either. If you've ever seen a Kendo match they never spin around like they do in the movies. Gillard said himself that he took the different styles from all sorts of things from Kendo to tennis. I don't think it's as simple as "Kenobi uses kendo, Dooku uses fencing." It's all kinda mixed together. Now Dooku may have a style that is based more in fencing, and Kenobi may have a style based more in Kendo, but like I said neither are completely one or the other. I'm not quite sure where you guys got your information, but of everything I've read on the subject, no one has ever flat out stated dooku is a "fencer." now they may allude to it by saying "he uses a style that demands great deftness of hand" etc., but they never flat out say it. The same goes for Kenobi and Anakin.


On the note of Vader in ESB: That is a very different case. Vader used one hand, not because of his style, but because of the situation. Vader wanted to psyche out Luke. He thought Luke was just a push over. Vader used one hand to show off that he was a better swordsman than Luke was. But notice when he finds Luke may actually be a challenge he goes back to using two hands. ader also never used one hand in any of the other films, which leads me to believe he is more comfortable using two hands.

 

I think the best example of Dooku using a fencing style is when anakin has two lightsabres. Not only does dooku use one hand, but also his stance is very, very fencing-esque.

Incidentally, Dooku PARRIES with one hand but then COUNTERATTACKS with two hands - which contradicts what you said earlier about striking with one hand and parrying with two. Moreover, his moves are circular, rather than linear (like in fencing).