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Beyond - Legends Elves, and Hobbits, and Jedi?!? Lotr/StarWars crossover LINK TO SEQUEL UP!

Discussion in 'Fan Fiction- Before, Saga, and Beyond' started by Sprikloas, Nov 18, 2004.

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  1. skywalker64089

    skywalker64089 Jedi Knight star 3

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    Very nice.

    A dragon. How quaint. I have a question. If the dragon is a bronze, how in heaven's name are they going to get him off the planet after this whole deal is done? He's going to be as big as the Millenium Falcon.

    S.
     
  2. Sprikloas

    Sprikloas Jedi Youngling star 1

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    Good point. But, keep in mind, if you've read the Pern series, you'll know that Dragons can go /between/. That makes the trip a little quicker. :D
     
  3. TheProphetOfSullust

    TheProphetOfSullust Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Merry, off you go with Lowie and Chewie. Try and throw them in the water!

    [face_laugh] [face_laugh]

    Brilliant!

    How will the Uruk-Hai react to Boromir's blaster?

    And since we're getting close to the end of FOTR, I'm going to try to guess how the crowd will split up...

    Jacen, Jedith and Lowie: go to Mordor with Frodo and Sam

    Tenel Ka, Han, Chewie, Leia, and Jaina: pursue the Uruk-Hai with Aragorn, Legolas, adn Gimli

    Zekk, Anakin and Tahiri: Captured with Merry and Pippin

    How close am I?
     
  4. ZebulaNebula

    ZebulaNebula Jedi Master star 5

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    Interesting. Merry and Pippin still remind me of two clowns I knew in HS. The resemblance hit me while watching the films, but you've really caught that dynamic. I've never read any of the Dragonriders of Pern series, but it sounds interesting. How are things going to break up? Are you going to keep the couples intact? My vote would be:

    Captured with Merry & Pippin: Anakin & Tahiri

    To Mordor: Jaina & Zekk

    With Aragorn & co.: Wookiees, Han, Leia, Jacen, TK.

    Blaster fishing would be interesting. And how will the Uruks react to blasters and sabers?
     
  5. -Darksaber-

    -Darksaber- Jedi Youngling star 3

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    I have a feeling Tahiri's healing thingys will be put to use soon...Perhaps Boromir wont die? Just a though...I'm probably a mile off...;)
     
  6. Shadowknight1

    Shadowknight1 Jedi Master star 6

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    Blasters will have those Uruks running for their lives. :p
     
  7. Rilwen_Shadowflame

    Rilwen_Shadowflame Jedi Grand Master star 6

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    "J'cen" is an interesting idea-a Jedi dragonrider,hmm....
     
  8. Sprikloas

    Sprikloas Jedi Youngling star 1

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    Zeb, you're the closest to figuring it out. Let's just say, there's four groups. And you got one right.

    Oh, Boromir will die, don't worry. Just not like you're expecting him to. :D
     
  9. -Darksaber-

    -Darksaber- Jedi Youngling star 3

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    Aww, man. He was one of may favourites. Why can't leggin-lass die? He's boring, and he gets stupid lines :S
     
  10. ZebulaNebula

    ZebulaNebula Jedi Master star 5

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    Don't tell me, Boromir shoots himself by accident. I wonder which group I have right.
     
  11. Gen_Wedge_Antilles

    Gen_Wedge_Antilles Jedi Youngling star 2

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    What I'd like to know is what kind of idiot shoots himself "in the ringfinger" as it were.

    Square Corners

    EDIT: The kind of idiot that is obsessed with the Ring of Power.
     
  12. Emperor_Kilo

    Emperor_Kilo Jedi Master star 4

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    And the can't really be stealthy anymore. Any, neat work! :D
     
  13. -Darksaber-

    -Darksaber- Jedi Youngling star 3

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    I believe Sprikloas has forgotten about us :(
     
  14. Sprikloas

    Sprikloas Jedi Youngling star 1

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    Not forgetten. Sprik was playing rugby for her school in Vancouver. Got fourth overall. :D Anyways, I did some writing in "Homework time" And shall post next chapter on teusday.
     
  15. ZebulaNebula

    ZebulaNebula Jedi Master star 5

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    Congrats on your getting fourth. Most impressive.
     
  16. Sprikloas

    Sprikloas Jedi Youngling star 1

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    I thank thee, Zeb. chapter tonight, get ready! The group is breaking up!
     
  17. Sprikloas

    Sprikloas Jedi Youngling star 1

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    Okies. I'm very sorry for the wait for this chapter, but life has been busy.

    Chapter Twenty-five: The breaking of the Fellowship. (Pt.1)


    The evening was darkening when they docked the boats and went ashore. Aragorn would've wanted to put more distance between them and the orcs that no doubt were following, but the Falls of Rauros impeded any forward movement. Besides, they still had to decide which way to approach Mordor.

    "Tonight we'll talk about how we're going to do this!" Yelled Aragorn from his boat, making sure everyone knew what would be happening. That way, they wouldn't wander off.

    The boats secured, (And checked by the 'Knot Master', Samwise) the fellowship hauled up gear and made camp. Frodo, seeming unusually jittery and nervous in the half-light of dusk, volunteered to gather firewood. Aragorn let him go, warning him to be back soon. Boromir, an odd look in his eyes as he watched Frodo go, said he would also gather firewood, since the hobbit wouldn't be able to carry enough back. The Gondorian ignored Aragorn's protests and left, in a different direction from Frodo. Only Legolas heard him muttering to himself as he went, but dismissed it as 'bloody stupid human behavior'.

    Sam, his pans uncovered from his packs, went to work preparing a stew with the hunted meat and trail rations. Leia, wandering over and seeing that she was not needed by Han, (He was grunting and swearing as he put up the tent) offered to help the chubby hobbit. He accepted gladly, and the two of them were soon chatting easily.

    Jacen, his tent put up the fastest, was trying to feed both Talon and Jedith. Tenel Ka had caught some river fish earlier that day, hoping to ease the burden of feeding Jedith from the group's food stores. Talon was perfectly happy with fish, tearing into his with a reckless, glazed-eyed abandon. Jedith, however, was not as accepting.

    /Why isn't there any meat, Mine?/ The bronze dragonling looked perplexed, poking the proffered fish with a talon.
    {Because I haven't been able to hunt yet. Try some! Fish is good!} Jacen could feel his dragon's hunger through his bond, and really hoped the bronze would eat the fish.
    /It smells funny. Do I have to?/ Jedith looked deploringly at Jacen, then tried a pitiful glance at Tenel Ka. She started back, eyes of blue steel. /Ten'ka? Do you have any meat?/ She didn't even blink, and unmovable wall.
    {No. Eat your fish, Jedith.} The bronze snorted, and with eyes whirling pink and red, then screwed tightly shut, he picked up a fish and ate.
    {See? Nothing wrong with fish, M'love!} Jacen sighed, feeling the gnaw of hunger abating as the dragonling proceeded to eat four fish. Jedith left his eyes shut with distaste, though, until he had swallowed the last pink scrap.
    /I do not like fish. But I will eat it. Sleep now?/ Grinning to himself, Jacen led the dragon to the tent and made sure he was comfortable, then joined Tenel Ka as she went to the fire, and Sam's stew.

    An hour later, when the stew was consumed, and Gimli had passed enough gas to fell a small bantha, Aragorn noticed that two of the fellowship were still missing. Frodo and Boromir.

    -----

    Frodo meant only to venture out a little ways, but ended up wandering quite a bit. His mind was not on firewood, though. Tonight, he knew, he must decide how to go about getting to Mordor. Boromir, he knew, wanted to go to Gondor first, but Frodo knew there was darkness that way. There was the Rohan passage, but Gandalf had always seemed leery of that way. Ah, Gandalf. Frodo missed the old wizard's wisdom, and knowledge..
    A faint rustle behind, and Frodo jumped to his feet. Boromir, his arms filled with wood, looked startled and nodded to Frodo. He stepped closer, and Frodo stepped back, wary.
    "None of us should wander alone, you least of all. So much depends on you." The Gondorian was inching closer again. "Frodo? I know why you seek solitude. You suffer; I see it day by day. You sure you do not suffer needlessly? There are other ways, Frodo, other paths that we might take." Frodo looked apprehensive at
     
  18. ZebulaNebula

    ZebulaNebula Jedi Master star 5

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    Jedith doesn't like fish? Dang. Boromir kinda reminds me of Anakin Skywalker in ROTS here. No, make thar the other way 'round.

    I'm ready to see some sliced-up orcs.
     
  19. -Darksaber-

    -Darksaber- Jedi Youngling star 3

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    Only Legolas heard him muttering to himself as he went, but dismissed it as 'bloody stupid human behavior'.

    Lol....Good one Sprik...More pleases...

    Yeah, I agree, Boromir IS like Anakin....Lucas is a big LOTRs fan, though, so that's proabbly why....
     
  20. TheProphetOfSullust

    TheProphetOfSullust Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    I agree on the similarities, but there is one important difference:

    In LOTR, it is never certain whether the Ring makes someone evil, or whether it simply amplifies the evil that all of us carry within ourselves. SW makes very clear that it is the darkness within that turns you.

    Why wouldn't a dragon like fish?
     
  21. Sprikloas

    Sprikloas Jedi Youngling star 1

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    A dragon wouln't like fish for the same reason some people don't like fish- free will, and personal choice. Besides, it's river trout, not fat Pacific salmon..
     
  22. ZebulaNebula

    ZebulaNebula Jedi Master star 5

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    I can understand why anyone would dislike river trout. Blecch!
     
  23. skywalker64089

    skywalker64089 Jedi Knight star 3

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    Back to your answer on 5/17: Good point. But, keep in mind, if you've read the Pern series, you'll know that Dragons can go /between/. That makes the trip a little quicker.

    [face_thinking] But also remember, the farther away from the planet that they go, the longer the dragon stays between. The travel from Pern to the Red Planet involved a length of time between that would have been fatal for humans without the airpacks from the space suits ( :oops: as if space travel itself wouldn't be fatal without the suits :D{sorry. my own stupidity}). Considering that your average human suffers from oxygen deprivation after approx. 5 minutes, and a dragon suffers from that approximately 10-15 minutes later, that would make any kind of interstellar travel sort of difficult.

    [face_mischief] Now that I've done my best to shoot a hole in that theory, (sorry I guess I ended up overanalyzing the situation, no offence intended) I wonder how you're going to actually work around it? (Friendly neighborhood ImpStar Duece, anyone? :))

    A dragon wouln't like fish for the same reason some people don't like fish- free will, and personal choice. Besides, it's river trout, not fat Pacific salmon..

    Sounds like a cat. With wings. And fire. And no hairballs. [face_laugh]

    TheProphetOfSullust

    In LOTR, it is never certain whether the Ring makes someone evil, or whether it simply amplifies the evil that all of us carry within ourselves. SW makes very clear that it is the darkness within that turns you.

    The Ring was created by Sauron using his power and essence. He poured enough of his own essense into the construction of the One Ring that when his form was destroyed by Isildur, he did not die and was able to recover over time in Mordor. Galadriel and Elron both held the Ring to be totally evil. Any attempt to use the ring, whether for good or for ill, turned to evil. Sauron got a hold of all of the rings of power except for the three elven rings. Remember the poem:

    Three Rings for the Elven-kings under the sky,
    Seven for the Dwarf-lords in their halls of stone,
    Nine for Mortal Men doomed to die,
    One for the Dark Lord on his dark throne
    In the Land of Mordor where the Shadows lie,
    One Ring to rule them all, One Ring to find them,
    One Ring to bring them all and in the darkness bind them,
    In the Land of Mordor where the Shadows lie.
    Direct Quote "The Fellowship of the Ring"

    He proceeded to corrupt the rings of power that he got a hold of, and then created the One Ring as the master key to unite all of the others. Remember the Nazgul. They are the Nine Mortal Men, Kings in their own right, upon whom the Nine rings of Power were bestowed. And for receiving these gifts, they were inslaved to Sauron for all time. Yeah, they received unbelievable power, but at what cost. I mean, all of them looked like the Crypt Keeper on a bad day. :D

    And then there is this to think about: Just the thought of coveting the One Ring is what drove Sauramon and Denethor to madness. Made Boromir attempt to take the ring from Frodo (i.e. previous story post). Actual contact with the Ring was even worse. Bilbo was able to resist for a while, however, even though he didn't use it, it insinuated into his thoughts the fact that he didn't want to let it go. Same thing with Frodo in Mount Doom. Smeagol. Hmm. I get the idea that he was a simpleton to begin with, so it was probably no great thing for the ring to take control of his thoughts. So yeah. I think that you can infer that the One Ring was evil.
     
  24. Sprikloas

    Sprikloas Jedi Youngling star 1

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    Whoa, so much thinking, man.

    Firstly, I had taken into account the time and space travel bits. I was going to have them jump to a close planet, then to another, etc. Also, if my plot goes as planned, they won't even have to jump planets.. There may be a ship big enough for them to 'dock' into :D

    Secondly, congrats on the literate discussion on the evil of the rings. Tho, Denethor wasn't made evil by the ring. It was the looking into the Palantir that did it. That, and his wife being killed. Enough to drive us all off our nut, if you ask me.
     
  25. skywalker64089

    skywalker64089 Jedi Knight star 3

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    I hate long-winded replies. :)

    For some reason, you got the first one for me. :D

    Remember what Denethor said to Faramir about Frodo and the fact that Faramir let him go: "Boromir would have brought me a kingly gift."

    However, I would like to put forth the thought that Denethor probably had some screws loose to begin with. Between his wife's death, the Palantir and Boromir's death, I think they just got removed completely. :D

    I think that the only real difference, after everything is said and done, between Sauramon and Denethor was the fact that Sauramon actually swore alliegence to Sauron. Denethor was just going to sit there twiddling his thumbs while Minas Tirith was destroyed around him.

    Sorry. I think I was editing my previous post while you were replying.

    S.
     
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