JCC Embrace The FU - Formerly the STAR WARS IS BAD thread

So now you’re making things up & then commenting on these made up plot lines. Run out of ideas?

 

They've never been my ideas you were disagreeing with. Usually they were Rian Johnson's.

 

Characters not seen in 30 years who almost certainly will not show up because they are dead:

1) The Emperor
2) Darth Vader (except as Force Ghost of Anakin Skywalker)
3) Biggs Darklighter
4) Aunt Beru
5) Uncle Owen
6) Porkins (Speedo or no)

Characters not seen in 30 years who may show up and who Wocky will complain there's no explanation as to why they might show up because he thought there was no way they weren't dead:

1) Boba Fett

Characters not seen in 2 years who will almost certainly show up to Wocky complaints as he wasn't one of the 12 people we explicitly saw at the end of The Last Jedi:

1) Snap Wexley

 

lol what

Lucas' sole good Star Wars film was saved by people other than Lucas who understood actual humans. ROTS and the rest of that nonsense prequel trilogy are what you get when you take the competent people away and just leave GL.

 

Boba Fett is as dead as the Emperor, is he not? Though I guess Darth Maul survived being cut in half and karate kicked down a bottomless shaft, so there really is no such thing as death in Star Wars any longer.

 

At least I'm glad I didn't have to wait two years?

 

Darth Maul's resurrection is something that's never going to be addressed or acknowledged or even brought up in the movies. So for all intents and purposes, it may as well have never happened. Same with characters existing like Ahsoka or Ezra.

 

... Hera's called out in Rogue One though?

 

a name yelled out in the background.

Tell me that's the same as someone like Maul or Ezra showing up.

 

Well, Maul's dead, sooooo... but I wouldn't put it past them to have Ezra show up?

But no, of course it's not.

 

You know, nobody is really gone. - Skywalker, Luke circa Dec. 2017.

 

Chopper is actually on screen in Rogue One, as is the Ghost.

Luke obviously isn't dead, Force users leaving their physical body isn't death. They just no longer exist in that state anymore.

As for Boba, we may never know. If anyone could survive the Sarlaac he could.
Maybe the spin-off movie will tell us for sure. Depending on when it's set

 

What about R5-D4?

 

Two things...

1) I don't think he'd show up, so I didn't list him... but also,
2) I... actually pull a Wocky here? I assumed he's dead, because the implication was that the Stormtroopers-as-Tuskens killed everyone and everything that could identify them on the Jawa Sandcrawler -- including the droids. But you are, of course, correct and if he showed up I'd agree there's a plausible way he could show up and the the robot in charge of the First Order...

 

He would still be alive if he'd been sufficiently motivated.

 

The Last Jedi 16 bit

 

Who put those people there? GL made Kurtz producer, he made Marcia editor, he made Murch the post producer. Who also fought for control instead of money? I’d rather take my chances with 70s-era George Lucas than any of the large Hollywood studios from the same period. Who wrote the first and second drafts of the scripts? He did. As a humble amateur writer myself, I’ve gotta say it’s not easy writing the first, second, or third draft of something, knowing it’s going to be complete ****, but getting on with it anyway. He trudged through that process, even though by his own admission, he hates writing. He sacrificed his valuable time in the prime of his life, coming off the success of American Graffiti, to make some stupid thing called the Journal of the Whills. Who changed the name of it to the Star Wars? Who had the names “Luke Skywalker,” “Han Solo,” and “Princess Leia” from the beginning? He persevered through the bafflement of friends, family, colleagues, and producers at this thing called “Star Wars” before Kasdan ever saw a page.

Who, at the end of a long day torturing himself trying to get a few pages written, went to sit in front of the tv and hear about the horrors of Vietnam and Watergate? Who recognized the lack of modern day fairy tales for a new generation of children and wanted to reclaim that ideal for them? Who chose to make Star Wars something positive, triumphant, joyous, in reaction to the dreariness of the previous decade? Who did this while simultaneously incorporating Vietnam into Star Wars, with a bureaucratic empire hunting down freedom-fighting rebels in backwaters?

Who possessed the magpie-like instinct to recognize good ideas and things of quality? He didn’t conjure up the name “R2-D2,” but when someone used it as a shorthand to refer to Reel Two, Dialogue Two, who possessed the ear to recognize the sound of something special? Who changed that name to A-2, along with the Jedi to Dai Nogas, most likely in those fits of doubts all too common to writers, but then had the good sense to change it back? Who recognized good story movements in films like Hidden Fortress? Whose imagination was lifted by the sight of aerial dogfights in old films to make them fights in space and chases through asteroid fields? Who knew what audiences and children would react viscerally to?

George Lucas does understand humans, or at least he did, and blew all that understanding on the first Star Wars, which was always all that was ever necessary. Star Wars has always been, and looks to be for the foreseeable future, a wealth of riches, and, with my greatest appreciation and love that it is this way, too much of good stuff.

 

Nobody has doubted his attempts to make a story. THey're just saying if all he does is that, with nobody to temper it, it's pretty crap. Simples!

 

I saw TLJ in IMAX in Maryland this weekend. I was happy to hear the audience respond to the humor and there was some guy laughing at the parts that were supposed to be serious which made others chuckle.

The big Holdo moment gets me every time. I love that shot. There was complete silence during that part. I think the biggest audience moment was actually at the Luke astral projection reveal.

 

I'm hoping Zorba the Hutt comes back .

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I think he struggles with dialogue , but otherwise his ideas, understanding of myths , story structure etc. is great .

I reckon its probably too late to get him involved in IX (I assume it starts shooting any day now ) but if they continue on they'd be smart to get Lucas involved .

 

You will get me a Coke Zero.

 

gezvader: I was hoping that, having secured the Disney deal, Lucas would finally set out on making those oft-referenced esoteric films, but the prospect looks less promising now that he's a father again.

Good for him, sad for those of us who appreciate his craftsmanship.