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Arena ESPN Discussion Thread

Discussion in 'Community' started by DarthIntegral, Aug 2, 2007.

  1. MotivateR5D4

    MotivateR5D4 Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    I just saw Golic on CNN talking about the college football season. That seems like a really good fit for him, he seemed really relaxed and just kind of did his thing.
     
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  2. Juliet316

    Juliet316 Hangman Winner star 10 VIP - Game Winner

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  3. heels1785

    heels1785 JCC Manager star 9 Staff Member Manager

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    He was a really good beat reporter for both the Falcons and Bears. Terribly sad, and it sounds like it is being taken very hard at ESPN and throughout the league.
     
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  4. Luke02

    Luke02 Chosen One star 6

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    Yeah he was a very good beat writer for the Bears. Very professional and through while by all accounts, a very nice and humbled person. Very sad. 2020 ....enough already!
     
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  5. DarthIntegral

    DarthIntegral Baseball Draft Commish star 9 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Another round of layoffs coming at ESPN, with 300 staff getting cut, and 200 open positions not getting filled.

    Honestly, I think ESPN needs to commit to the digital shift, and go all in on ESPN+. The current fragmented approach of some digital and some traditional isn't working, and actually upsets consumers, who can be confused about what they do/don't have access to.

    ESPN was great for years, and good for years. But the current landscape - instant video highlights sent literally to a device in your hand, hot takes you can interact with - undercut what originally made ESPN and erode what helped sustain and reinvent them.

    Other than an absolutely great 30for30 or live sports ... Why does anyone even watch ESPN today?
     
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  6. Guidman

    Guidman PT Manager and Book/Trivia Host star 5 Staff Member Manager

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    Tuesday night I watched shuffleboard then pogoing on ESPN2 since that was better than anything else on. There's one night every four years where ESPN comes through, well marginally so.
     
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  7. heels1785

    heels1785 JCC Manager star 9 Staff Member Manager

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    ivan maisel is one of the outgoing employees at espn. really sucks, he's one of the best cfb reporters/writers out there, and has been for 15 years.

    hopefully he gets a boatload of cash to go write for the the athletic.
     
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  8. heels1785

    heels1785 JCC Manager star 9 Staff Member Manager

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    as part of the aforementioned layoffs - chris cote, a talented (by all accounts) producer on dan le batard's show was let go, without warning. le batard has announced that he's not only picked up his salary out-of-pocket, but given him a raise.

    good man.
     
  9. Luke02

    Luke02 Chosen One star 6

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    I will watch PTI @DarthIntegral every once in a while but other then that I don't watch ESPN. Heck I do not even watch live sports on there as I will flip on ESPN+ instead since sometimes they do not have that annoying darn ticker at the bottom of the screen. Like for Fight Nights, I will watch them on ESPN+ even if they are being simulcast on ESPN since again ESPN+ does not have the ticker. But yeah ESPN other then live sports and 30 for 30 is nothing but one talk show after another. And I gotten to the point in my life that I don't have time to watch people sit around and talk sports for hours on end nor want to.
     
  10. heels1785

    heels1785 JCC Manager star 9 Staff Member Manager

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    espn apparently let trey wingo go, or didn't renew him.

    he'll go to fox, nfln, or both, and do brilliantly. one of the best in the business.
     
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  11. Juliet316

    Juliet316 Hangman Winner star 10 VIP - Game Winner

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    Not surprised once Golic and Wingo was canned.
     
  12. heels1785

    heels1785 JCC Manager star 9 Staff Member Manager

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    dan le batard's last day with espn/disney is january 4th, they've announced.

    i hope he does his own thing, and he gets to talk about whatever the **** he wants to. espn's watchability is now down to jay bilas, doris burke, and scott van pelt.
     
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  13. tom

    tom Chosen One star 7

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    haven't watched espn in almost a year, but do they not still have rachel nichols and/or katie nolan?
     
  14. heels1785

    heels1785 JCC Manager star 9 Staff Member Manager

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    katie nolan and mina kimes are on daytime (work time) shows and espn+. i associate them with their social media presence moreso than espn, but i do like them.

    rachel nichols is good, but i don't watch a ton of nba-related shows.
     
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  15. MotivateR5D4

    MotivateR5D4 Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    I think during a regular year and season their ratings would have held up. Especially among all the office workers going in at 9am every morning and listening on the way to work. But since they're all working from home this year, it would make sense that ratings are down.

    I always found Le Batard to be insufferable and could never understand how he was so successful at ESPN.
     
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  16. Luke02

    Luke02 Chosen One star 6

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    I must admit the only sports talk show I watch is Good Morning Football (which I have on the background right now as class is ending LOL!) and a little bit of PTI. All these names I heard of but honestly have not listen to in years. Even Greeny I have really not really heard ever since him and Golic split up. I still think ESPN is best going to being a streaming site only and well streaming mostly live sports. I much rather watch Australian football if I am home randomly one afternoon with nothing to do then yet another talk show.
     
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  17. MotivateR5D4

    MotivateR5D4 Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    They've carved out their own kind of celebrity status in the sports world and it's become totally unwatchable. I remember ESPN's line up of talk shows throughout the 2000s was pretty golden. But then a lot of those people tried going on to bigger and better things, some more successful than others. And then it became more about promoting their own individual brands, with each one trying to outdo each other in their formats and hot takes. I can't stand most of them anymore. And now there's this new class of TV commentators who are trying to do the same thing. But we hardly know them, and yet they all act like the next big star in this community. Some of them try way too hard to be an expert, instead of just being one and letting things happen. With ESPN themselves constantly pushing some of them as the next big thing. Their morning through afternoon line up used to be my go to just to have on, now I can't even do that. PTI is the only show that has held up, but even they seem more limited now in favor of the better stories going to somebody else.

    It's why I liked Golic and Wingo, because those were two guys who had nothing to prove and didn't need the flashy show. When I listened to them regularly it just felt like two guys shooting the **** and talking football. Wingo has always been super laid back, but I guess ESPN no longer wanted that. I'm sure he'll be replaced with somebody that they feel is more in keeping with the direction they've been heading.
     
  18. heels1785

    heels1785 JCC Manager star 9 Staff Member Manager

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    whatever dan does, i hope papi is included.
     
  19. starfish

    starfish Chosen One star 5

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    as far as sports talk goes, I prefer audio/radio shows, I have an old used car that for the first few years I had it it still had satellite radio service, I guess the previous owner just paid for a ten year plan or something when they got the car, I didn’t bother renewing the service when it ran out but I really liked listening to the NBA, other basketball ball, soccer, and some hockey shows, I don’t know I think sports talk programs works better as something to listen to while driving vs something you sit down and watch at home
     
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  20. Guidman

    Guidman PT Manager and Book/Trivia Host star 5 Staff Member Manager

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    Tom Rinaldi jumping ship to Fox Sports. Big loss for GameDay and ESPN golf coverage.
     
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  21. Luke02

    Luke02 Chosen One star 6

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    Yeah I saw that @Guidman and have no idea what to make it out other then $$$ and maybe a change of scenery? Fox Sports golf coverage is almost non exist and while they have the Big 10, they do not have any of the national playoff championship bowl games. Perhaps Rinaldi is looking to do something else besides golf and college football?:confused:
     
  22. heels1785

    heels1785 JCC Manager star 9 Staff Member Manager

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    my guess is that he'll be featured on the fox network a good deal - sunday nfl, world series, things like that. espn's financial struggles are no secret - he's the top "essayist" in the sports business, entirely possible that fox outbid them.
     
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  23. Guidman

    Guidman PT Manager and Book/Trivia Host star 5 Staff Member Manager

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    Throwing it from Terry Bradshaw to a Tom Rinaldi piece, that's a hell of a 180.
     
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  24. heels1785

    heels1785 JCC Manager star 9 Staff Member Manager

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    haha. fox also has the 2022, 2023, and 2026 world cups - that's prime rinaldi territory, with the hours of coverage to fill with human interest stories.
     
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  25. heels1785

    heels1785 JCC Manager star 9 Staff Member Manager

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    rinaldi saved one of his best for last:



    i hope fox utilizes him correctly, he's such an effective and impactful storyteller.