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Discussion in 'Literature' started by The Loyal Imperial, Sep 7, 2012.

  1. AdmiralWesJanson

    AdmiralWesJanson Force Ghost star 5

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    Well, with the Decimator appearing, chances of the Nova Courier as a rebel large ship has gone way up. They need one to balance the Imperial Shuttle. And Skipray would give the Empire a second turretted ship, on a starfighter sized platform. They seem to draw from the Decipher card game a lot as well, so maybe a TIE Scout, as a small support craft. I'd also love to see a System Patrol Craft or Customs Corvette for the Empire, as the Lancer is quite a bit larger than the Corvette.
     
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  2. imiller

    imiller Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    They do seem to reach into Galaxies a lot, with Kath Scarlet, Howlrunner, and now the Decimator. Those two do make more sense than the Lancer for size. I just really love the idea of the Lancer.
     
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  3. Iron_lord

    Iron_lord 50x Wacky Wed/3x Two Truths/28x H-man winner star 10 VIP - Game Winner

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    I was thinking of 5 prototype pilots with refits and Tycho with refit.
     
  4. imiller

    imiller Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    That would work too. And Tycho is always great to fly - though I always feel he's incomplete without Push the Limit.
     
  5. Iron_lord

    Iron_lord 50x Wacky Wed/3x Two Truths/28x H-man winner star 10 VIP - Game Winner

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    Might be able to afford it if one swaps an Interceptor for a Headhunter. Still 6 ships, but one is a bit weaker.
     
  6. blackmyron

    blackmyron Chosen One star 7

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    Boys and girls - IT'S OUT. Age of Rebellion Core Rulebook.

    First off, why did ever doubt FFG? :D

    Pretty much everything I wanted in something called Age of Rebellion. Backstory of the Rebellion has not changed (and yes, that includes TFU :p) Numerous references to the old X-Wing games. And, as I'm sure you've seen, beautiful illustrations. Oh, did I mention a sidebar about the Anaxes College System?

    Some statistical junk:

    Races: Bothans, Droids, Duros, Gran, Humans, Ithorians,Mon Calamari, Sullustans
    Starfighters/Shuttles: A-Wing, X-Wing, Y-Wing, B-Wing, TIE Fighter, TIE Defender, TIE Bomber (plus the TIE Shuttle and TIE Boarding Shuttle variants), Lambda-class shuttle, Sentinel-class landing craft.
    Capital Ships: Vigil-class corvette, CR90 corvette, YV-929 armed transport, Consular-class light assault cruiser, Gozanti-class armed transport, Lancer-class frigate, EF76 Nebulon-B Frigate, Dreadnaught-class heavy cruiser, Vindicator-class heavy cruiser, Interdictor-class heavy cruiser, Imperial I-class Star Destroyer, Praetor-II-class Star Battlecruiser, Victory-class Star Destroyer, MC80 Liberty-type Star Cruiser.
    Planets: Alderaan, Byss (The Emperor appears to be growing clones here. Wonder why?), Chandrila, Dac/Mon Calamari ("or simply Mon Cala"), Hoth, Imperial Center/Coruscant, Sullust, Yavin 4

    Edit: Found the most important bit - stat block for "nerf herder".
     
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  7. AdmiralWesJanson

    AdmiralWesJanson Force Ghost star 5

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    An Armed consular would be a cool additional capital ship to add to X-Wing. Too bad Lancer and Vigil corvette are both 250 meters, probably too big to be an Imperial huge ship, and the Gozanti seems to be far too small. It seems bigger in the trailers for Rebels.
     
  8. King of Alsakan

    King of Alsakan Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Can't wait for my copy, did they list the Praetor-II length at 4,800 m or 6,400 m?
     
  9. blackmyron

    blackmyron Chosen One star 7

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    FFG doesn't include lengths of ships in their stat blocks, although it may have information in the descriptive text - IIRC, there was a bit about it being the "second largest" ship in the Imperial Navy, behind the Executor.

    Edit: Two more ships appear in the adventure - the old Star Galleon, and the new Temple-class heavy freighter (which is essentially an upside-down Nebulon-B with modular blocks attached to the stem)
     
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  10. King of Alsakan

    King of Alsakan Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Much thanks, appreciated

    I will have to justify that with the Praetor being the second largest design for only Imperial use ;)
     
  11. GrandAdmiralJello

    GrandAdmiralJello Comms Admin ❉ Moderator Communitatis Litterarumque star 10 Staff Member Administrator

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    Anything on the Imperial Palace or the Imperial Court (preferably pictures) ?
     
  12. blackmyron

    blackmyron Chosen One star 7

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    Most of the illustrations are war-related, although there is a cool picture of someone looking like an Imperial Advisor at what appears to be a COMPNOR rally. Coruscant does get a full-page entry, but there isn't much detail otherwise. The focus is very much out of the old RESB, and very little of the ISB.
     
  13. Iron_lord

    Iron_lord 50x Wacky Wed/3x Two Truths/28x H-man winner star 10 VIP - Game Winner

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    I think it was said earlier, that in the beta, the descriptive text described it as "nearly four times the length of a standard star destroyer."
     
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  14. Tzizvvt78

    Tzizvvt78 Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    That would make it in the 6 km ballpark. Hm, maybe the Praetor Mark II-class battlecruiser and the Praetor II-class Star Battlecruiser are two different designs, one a scale-up of the other? ;)
    With its shape, it would even be bigger than the Bellator-class, if that is still part of canon. :p
     
  15. Zorrixor

    Zorrixor Chosen One star 6

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    The volume of EU fluff brings a smile to my face.

    With this RPG still in its infancy, and being built off a foundation of EU references, they've now got an uphill battle to get away from confusing the life out of people about what is and isn't "canon". And if they label it all Legends? Hurray! Canon Levels! Chaos!

    Those poor fanboys, who all hoped it'd be so simple from here on. :p
     
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  16. KamSolusar

    KamSolusar Jedi Grand Master star 2

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    :eek: Didn't know about the Decimator. That's really cool, seeing something from Galaxies as a real toy. And that means there's a (small) chance to see a Kimogila or even a Rihkxyrk, ships I've flown for many years! :D
     
  17. GrandAdmiralJello

    GrandAdmiralJello Comms Admin ❉ Moderator Communitatis Litterarumque star 10 Staff Member Administrator

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    War? Huh. What is it good for?



    Missa ab iPhona mea est.
     
  18. King of Alsakan

    King of Alsakan Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Makes sense given fractal's original intent. I figured they would work in a Praetor-III to get that length in there instead.

    I hope with the use of the Anaxes systems they will add more ships that actual fall in the battlecrusier and dreadnought range. At least get some Mandator's back in the fold. :)
     
  19. blackmyron

    blackmyron Chosen One star 7

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    Alright, here's the text regarding the Praetor-II:

    "...the Praetor II-class battlecruiser is second only to the rare Executor-class Super Star Destroyer in size, mass, and destructive potential."
    "Nearly five times as long as the Imperial II-class vessel..."

    and most interesting -

    "Those few Rebel fleets that have tangled with a Praetor have discovered that destroying one of these vessels is easier done through boarding or sabotage while it's docked as opposed to facing its planet-crushing firepower head-to-head."

    So, it looks like a few Praetors bit the dust there.

    Also, something interesting about the VicStars:

    "At the beginning of the Rebellion, a handful of Victory II-class ships were purchased or seized and used to great effect against the Empire. The location and condition of these vessels is currently unknown, and most are presumed to have been lost or captured." [face_thinking]
     
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  20. King of Alsakan

    King of Alsakan Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Great thanks. The Praetor apparently got upgraded to a dreadnought size, but stayed in a battlecruiser role. Did the Anaxes scale in the book break down things by size once more? Still wish got some mention of Mandator's or other battlecruiser and dreadnought classes. Though I am so shocked that they were taken out by sabotage.;)

    Really interesting about the Rebel Victory-class Star Destroyers. I would have thought maybe the Rebels got their hands on some of the Victory-II frigates, but not the Star Destroyer class.
     
  21. blackmyron

    blackmyron Chosen One star 7

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    Well, it's the Praetor-II - I imagine the I staying the same. Although the phrasing is odd for the text - why the ISD-II? - but I'm liable to take it at face value for now. The comment about the "second to the Executor" may push any larger ships to later in the RE.

    The classification system is mentioned being based on size, with the order from smallest to largest without the actual figures. The breakdown of the ship categories uses the roles - gunships, cruisers, and battleships.

    It's nice to see explicitly that both the Imperials and Alliance adhere to the Anaxes classification system.

    The timeframe of the setting - much vaguer in the EOTE - is the period after Yavin where Hoth has not yet been discovered, but after Project Shantipole. (Roughly around where most adventures in the WEG days were set, probably because it's a logical choice)
     
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  22. Gorefiend

    Gorefiend Chosen One star 5

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    Likely planetary militia models, as the Empire sold tons of them to local security forces.
     
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  23. Iron_lord

    Iron_lord 50x Wacky Wed/3x Two Truths/28x H-man winner star 10 VIP - Game Winner

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    Maybe we could pick up the discussion in the X-Wing Miniatures thread over in the Games forum?

    http://boards.theforce.net/threads/fantasy-flight-games-star-wars-x-wing-miniatures-game.50003548/
     
  24. AdmiralWesJanson

    AdmiralWesJanson Force Ghost star 5

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    We know the Corporate Sector sold some ships to the rebellion, and they did have at least 520 of the things. And there may have been more incidents like Admiral Harkov defecting with his VSD Protector.
     
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  25. MercenaryAce

    MercenaryAce Chosen One star 6

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    You know, given the rates of defections, thefts, and just the fact that the conflict is a civil war, I am kind of surprised that the rebels and the imperials don't have more designs in commons.
     
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