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ST Glowing Yellow Eyes

Discussion in 'Sequel Trilogy' started by obidaman99, Jan 23, 2016.

  1. Havok176

    Havok176 Jedi Knight star 1

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    Weather some like it or some don't, i would stick to the yellow eyes. Its been a tradition of all dark side users. I think it might have to do with side effects associated with using the dark side.

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  2. DarthCricketer

    DarthCricketer Jedi Master star 3

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    Of course, it is entirely possible that the 'significance' of yellow eyes is just simply being ignored. After all, I'd assume the original reason for the yellow eyes (apart perhaps from the technical reasons from ESB) was that it would make the Emperor seem more weird or creepy.
     
  3. ATMachine

    ATMachine Jedi Master star 4

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    It wasn't a 'tradition' before 2005. None of the Dark Jedi in LucasArts' Jedi Knight (1997) have glowing eyes, for example.

    (And what about Dooku?)
     
  4. DARTH_BELO

    DARTH_BELO Force Ghost star 5

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    I was originally taken back abit by the lack of yellow eyes in TFA. But after learning about the whole "given themselves fully to the darkside" thing, I suppose that makes sense for Kylo Ren. As far as Snoke, although he's possibly not a Sith, it's been made clear in several different ways that he is powerful with the Dark Side. But I guess I can see how he wouldn't have yellow eyes in that case. After all, Darth Sidious went many years with no yellow eyes until his "reveal" in ROTS. I could see that being the case with Snoke here...
     
  5. thejeditraitor

    thejeditraitor Chosen One star 6

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    they are sith eyes. no sith in st.
     
  6. DARTH_BELO

    DARTH_BELO Force Ghost star 5

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    Understood, thejeditraitor , but the point I was basically making there is that although I get that idea with Kylo Ren, I feel there is a possiblity that Snoke COULD be "revealed" as Sith later, in Ep. VIII or IX. This was exactly the case with Palpatine in the PT-he had normal eyes for years, but as soon as he revealed himself to be Darth Sidious in ROTS, his eyes were yellow from then on. If we see Snoke with yellow eyes in say...Epi. IX, then that would be no different.

    I was just saying that could happen with Snoke in the future. Is it likely? Is it a long shot? No one knows at this point. (Which IMO is awesome). We know there don't seem to be any Sith at least in TFA, but there's no way we can know what we will see in the rest of the ST. And of course we can't hold any stock in what any cast/crew may tell us-cos of course they won't spoil that info. All we have to go by is what we've seen so far-and just like other trilogies, I have a strong feeling we are not privy to the truth of everything just yet, whatever those truths may be...
     
  7. Vorax

    Vorax Force Ghost star 5

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    In "Star Wars: Absolutely Everything You Need to Know", it is clearly stated that :

    *Bolded is their own emphasis in the book.

    And on Darth Sidious' page:

     
  8. BigAl6ft6

    BigAl6ft6 Chosen One star 8

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    listening to a podcast interview with Pablo Hidaglo and the yellow red eyes is one of the first questions they asked and he replied with a bit of a chuckle: "I think it's really more a cinematic choice as opposed to anything where we figured out the appropriate blood chemistry is."
     
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  9. Darth DoJ

    Darth DoJ Jedi Padawan star 1

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    IMO the difference between Anakin/Vader and Palpatine, Maul and Tyrannus is that Anakin was inherently a good, moral person who was tricked into falling to the dark side and consumed by it, letting the dark side (which seems to possess one like a demonic spirit, using that person to achieve "its" will)use him to fulfill the role laid out for him as a sith, controlling the empire and wishing to overthrow the emperor, never having been fully indoctrinated by the semi-false religion of the Jedi (in universe, the light side of the force is true, and the ideals surrounding it held true but the Jedi in reality had lost sight of them long ago and at best had become "grey Jedi" - always ready to jump into battle, fight wars, show off their skills and become war heroes, in direct opposition to the mantra that a Jedi uses his skills for defense, never for attack) and having been given reason (and paranoia) enough to question their motives and ways, he eventually fell and became a vessel that channelled and grew physically stronger with the use of the dark side.
    On the flip side, I think that Maul was raised (at least in the EU) as a sith, he knew no different, indoctrinated directly into the order with no previous knowledge of morality from any other POV.
    Palpatine and Dooku were intelligent people who chose the path that suited their selfish desires most, Palpatine becoming a sith lord as it would grant him great power with both the force and within the political world, working within the plan instigated and implemented by his predecessors, meaning that he chose to be fully dominated by the dark side and embraced its will, so he was acting more on his own desires than needing to be "possessed " by the dark side, he was perfectly in tune with it.
    Dooku was a separatist ad lone wolf, he was a delinquent Jedi who chose the group who rebelled against the republic and in doing so turned his back on the Jedi. He became a sith purely because that was the only other option that would increase his power and influence, as opposed to going completely solo. He didn't seem to have total loyalty to Sideous or the dark side, he just seemed to have certain ideals that made him the perfect pawn, though he was happy to play along with Palpatine's plan, unaware that Palpatine planned to have him murdered.

    Assuming my theory here is true - Palpatine was able to fully switch himself of from the dark side as he was in tune with it, but could also be fully consumed by it without losing himself, which allowed him to retain his human appearance, Maul was born into the sith position and had always been a dark vessel, so his eyes were always yellow, the dark side was so little of what motivated Dooku that he didn't really channel the dark side, more, he used it at his convenience, and Anakin turned to the dark side because he was duped (and, if we can be cheesey, for love) and so was conflicted rather than being fully consumed, and so only moments of extreme hate, anger and evil intent, at least at first, were enough to allow the dark side to flow fully through him for us to see the yellow eyes shine through - perhaps the mask hid his inner conflict from the emperor, buying him time.

    Perhaps, while Kylo has some impressive powers - holding a laser beam in mid air - he isn't very strong in the force, even with the dark side, and he isn't very well trained or adept at using it, and we see that he's very conflicted, trying to prove to himself that he's evil, in order to lead this neo-Babylonian Darth Vader cult, going so far as to murder his father in cold blood, but not yet showing a hint of yellow glow, so he could well be the runt of the litter, the Billy Mitchel, the Neville Longbottom of the Skywalker/Solo clan, and have very limited power, light or dark, in the force.

    That works,right?
     
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  10. mihaitzateo

    mihaitzateo Jedi Knight star 3

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    Having glowing yellow eyes is not a "being Sith" thing,but at intense use of dark side.
    When Kylo kills his father,he should have had yellow glowing eyes.
    And further,when he hits his wound and uses his pain to strongly force push Rey,he should have had even more intense
    yellow glowing eyes.
     
  11. ATMachine

    ATMachine Jedi Master star 4

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    I suppose it's just old-timers like me who remember the days before the PT who don't expect that all dark-side users should have glowing yellow eyes as a matter of course, then?
     
  12. thejeditraitor

    thejeditraitor Chosen One star 6

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    sorry you're wrong. only sith have them. this is respecting gl's work since there are no sith in tfa.
     
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  13. TCF-1138

    TCF-1138 Anthology/Fan Films/NSA Mod & Ewok Enthusiast star 6 Staff Member Manager

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    Do we know this for sure?
     
  14. thejeditraitor

    thejeditraitor Chosen One star 6

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    yes.