how can you hate the ewoks?

Having a legion of ewoks that have the potential to be as aggressive and lethal as Tarfang would be nice in a pinch. No one would suspect them until it was too late. These ewoks are cool with me too.

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meh they didn't ruin it for me or anything and kids like them which is good cuz it's a family movie even if we don't wanna think it is. My only question is why did native teddy bears have such elaborate traps what did they expect at-sts to invade anyday now so the tied tree trunks the perfect height of their cockpits? Quite improbable imo

 

There are some pretty big and nasty things on Endor. Those traps and how to build them were passed on for generations. They were used both in hunting and defense. Luke, Han, Chewie, R2 and 3P0 all fell into one of these traps, why wouldn't the Empire?

 

Apparently you never saw the ewoks films. There are all sorts of nasty creatures on Endor with the gorax at the top of the list.

 

Then, of course, you realize that it HAD to take the Imperials a WHILE to build that bunker and shield generator and landing platform and all that stuff. They had PLENTY of time to become familiar with their oppressors, even leaving EU or even the novelization out of it.

After they're convinced, well, you can say they had agents spending all night trapping the area. The novel explains this well- Wicket recounts seeing an AT-ST tripping and falling, and its cockpit exploding on impact. This gives the other Ewoks the idea for the log roll and log swing traps that proved so devastating in the battle itself.

Regarding the 'easy' defeat of 'a legion of [the Emperor's] best troops', it's kind of hard to fight back against an enemy you've been repeatedly told is no threat whatsoever. The stormtroopers were most likely still in shock as they were being beaten senseless under a wall of fur.

They were surprised and overwhelmed by an enemy they had underestimated. It's the first Death Star's exhaust port all over again, highlighting Imperial arrogance and their tendency to believe anyone foolish enough to fight them has to be inferior to the Imperial machine.

And we see how THAT works out for them, every time.
EDIT:
You know, that sequence when the Ewoks pop out, the whole setup, reminds me rather of my favorite moment in ANOTHER big film franchise I love dearly:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=22ztVTfOeSA


Dennis Nedry works at a dinosaur park, and doesn't even BOTHER to familiarize himself with the animals he'll encounter while trying to deliver stolen embryos to a rival company. Thus, when he encounters a seemingly cute and playful animal, he never realizes how much danger he's in until it's too late, and he's Dilophosaurus-chow.

Same with the Empire and the Ewoks. They mistook them for primitive savages who were utterly harmless, refusing to give up their preconceived notions of arrogance and inherent superiority and notice how much of a danger they could truly be. Thus, when they pop out of hiding, the Imperials are totally blindsided, fighting an enemy they aren't prepared for and never saw coming.

Like Nedry, they learned the hard way that just because something's CUTE, it doesn't mean it can't KILL you.

 

Damn straight.

I've always been a little disappointed at the general lack of ewoks in the post-1980s EU.

 

I didn't see the cartoons I'm not an EU guy and it just seemed like every trap was conveniently placed not saying impossible just unlikely. They did have the saddest scene in film history when one died and the other cried chokes up even grizzled bikers.

 

I personally have nothing against the ewoks, in fact I really like them. However, I know a friend of mine hates them just because they seem to be out of place in the Original Trilogy. Almost every other species shown is ugly, gross, or violent; yet it was the sweet, furry, teddy bear creatures that helped destroy the Empire.

 

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Like Zhu Zhu pet Squiggles... the very face of death!

 

I know some guys that hate the Ewoks,

They get bent out of shape because they really wanted the Imperial Troops to look better in a guerrilla battle.

The scene where the Ewoks are throwing objects onto a squad of Scout-troopers seemed lame to the Ewok haters.

I heard all the angles, the improbability of the Ewoks tenaciously giving a good fight (distraction) and riding Speeder Bikes, etc.

These Ewok basher guys - I always felt sorry for ... I see them, and they watch the last portion of the film with a clenched fist, making lame sarcastic remarks, and fast-forwarding through a very important Rebel maneuver - that actually wraps up the Saga with the destruction of the Death Star.

I roll with it, watch the fightin' fun, and celebrate that a tribe of furballs gave the Empire fits. (Much like the fans who hate the Ewoks)

 

I retract my earlier thoughts, watching ROTJ right now and realized that the ewoks are fighting stormtroopers who,if you think about it, are the most usless people in existince . Even the Emporers best squad would be about as useful as an army of children who have never heard of guns lol

 

I don't hate the ewoks at all. The reasons that some people are giving for hating the ewoks aren't supported in my opinion.
Firstly, the ewoks shouldn't be discounted just because they are 'cute', or for any aspect of their appearance for that matter. When it comes down to our perception of beauty and what is aesthetically pleasing for us to see, I'm surprised at how many species, which certainly could be considered ugly, get absolutely no abuse yet ewoks get it down the neck for being too fuzzy, cute or small.

On the subject of the improbability of the ewoks defeating the imperial forces on the forest moon, I don't see it as all that improbable. When you take note of some key facts, I would almost bet entirely that the ewoks would come out victorius given the circumstances. Firstly, the rebel ground assault is overall a surprise. Yes, Palpatine had forseen the rebels would try to take out the shield generator, so he would have placed more than a sufficent amount of troops to make sure the rebels could be defeated. He also assumed that his groundforce would be enough to defend against any native attack. However, he can't have imagined that the rebel taskforce would ally themselves with the natives and be able to strategise against the imperials. Even with this however, I agree the ewoks are certainly the underdogs. Secondly, if the natives of the forest moon were very skilled fighters, 7 ft tall with incredibly intimidating looks, along with the help of native monstrous creatures and the rebels, and if they could easily tear the imperial forces to shreds, then there just isn't a story there. The fact that the ewoks are the underdogs should help us warm to them! It should not make us loathe them!

 

I don't mind the Ewoks in and of themselves... I just don't really like the Ewok overdose that ROTJ subjects us to.

 

the bold is not true at all this is actually called "the stormtrooper effect" and is used in tons of movies being that the "bad guys" always have bad aim or can never get the good guys.. stormtroopers are actually very very deadly good shots and can easily handle any situation with deadly effectiveness. i would not call them stupid because they are recruits from all over the galaxy (as well as some fett clones from the 501st and pockets of other various fett clones, and some centax II clones which would be percieved as "stupid" because they are born, raised and trained as a full adult all within 1 year so they are basically only flash trained and have to learn things normal born humans learn from being around other people by themselves as adults) and trained at some of the galaxies best military academies such as the main stormtrooper training base on Carida and the officer academies on raithal and coralug are among many of the very best in the galaxy. if you read the books eu and canon you would see that all of the above is true and this alleged stormtrooper effect is percieved to make us think exactly what your bold statement says.

ps. i hate ewoks more than anything else

 

Add me to the list of those that get a kick out of the Ewoks. They're very entertaining to me. Makes you just want to cuddle the crap out of one.

 

I don't hate them, but the reason they annoy me bit is because they are taking out all of the Empire's high-powered technology with tree stumps. On Hoth, the rebellion doesn't stand a chance against very similar weapons, but the Ewoks are somehow able to just destroy them with wood? I mean, get real.
I also think that the movie could have been a lot better if in lieu of Ewoks Lucas had used Wookiees, or at least something a little more hardcore- I'm not so into cuteness in Star Wars. As it is, though, they are pretty awesome for their own reasons.

 

I think that my problem with them is that they are supposed to be fighting some of the Empire's best troops, and do so pretty easily. It would have been cooler had the Wookiees replaced the Ewoks.

 

I don't hate the Ewoks, & never have. Loved them as a kid, transformed the entire front garden into an Ewok metropolis with sticks & string. Some of those platforms & flying foxes stayed there for years.

The slightly cynical nature of their creation that's emerged since through rumour & innuendo - cashing in on one of the most beloved toys of all time, saving money on costumes by basically chopping the original race (Wookiees) in half, even just reversing the name) - taints it a bit, but whatever. If the film had been a laughable disaster because of them, fine, hate them, but they did work.

Might have been heaps better with Wookiees, but we'll never know.

Funny bit of trivia I never realised until I read it a couple of years ago - the word 'Ewok' is not spoken once in ROTJ.

 

I dont hate the Ewoks -just think it was a massive missed oppurtunity not having Wookies... Everytime I watch ROTJ I cant help thinking about it.

I do like Caravan of Courage -I actually think that is better than the prequels... Maybe not better -but more real.

 

I'll admit, I didn't care so much for the Ewoks when I was younger, but they're starting to grow on me. Whilst they're not my favorite species, I'm FAR from hating them.

 

Ewoks are cool some of their lines in the movie are originally in tagalog, my native language. I crack up everytime I hear it haha. Ito. puno daw to hahahaha...

 

They're freaking teddy bears for crying out loud.

Gremlins would have been more believable than teddy bears. That and they take out Stormtroopers by tapping lightly on their helmets and the Stormtroopers go down waving their hands in the air.

They say that the stature of a hero is determined by the worthiness of the antagonist. The better the villain, the better the hero. In Luke/Vader, we had this dichotomy.

I understand the whole anti-tech/Vietnam thing Lucas was ham-fistedly trying to put on film, but having Teddy Bears fight glass-jawed Keystone Cops Stormtroopers made both diminished. In reality the Empire would have ground them into pulp -- and maybe to instill a sense of loss and seriousness to the battle, maybe they should have been.

 

Yeah, Star Wars has always been a bit goofy, but the introduction of the Ewoks went beyond that, I think, into levels of comic absurdism. Another example is the scene where the Rebels trick the Imperials out of the shield generator bunker and the stormtroopers (without firing a shot) surrender when they see the Ewoks on the roof.

That said, I don't mind the furry guys. Maybe it's nostalgia talking, but the Ewoks are great from a movie perspective (even if the Star Wars perspective is debatable). Same thing goes for Jedi as a whole. It's a movie I love despite that to me it's easily the weakest of all six Star Wars films.