CT How long was Luke on Dagobah?

And that's what makes this an interesting topic. The filmmakers told the story the way they did for a reason. Luke's time on Bespin is made intentionally unclear. How long did he train with Yoda? How long does it take to learn even enough basic skills to stand up to Vader at all? We don't know.

 

But we know from the overall timeline that several years did not pass in the outside universe.

 

Call me crazy, but my estimate is around 5-7 days (two weeks tops).
My reasoning behind this is that Han and Leia would've looked pretty disheveled if they were in the Falcon for more than a few weeks. Luke had to be on Dagobah no more than a month, and even that's too long of an estimate.
Yoda told Luke that he had much more training to do, further supporting the fact that Luke left Dagobah pretty early, and pretty fast, too.
The whole escaping from Imperials couldn't have been more than two days or so.
I could probably go through an even more detailed runthrough of the different days, and what I believe happened on those days, but it would probably be useless. Analyses like these tend to be fruitless.

 

Step One: Get a stopwatch.

Step Two: Start the stopwatch when Luke crashes on Dagobah.

Step Three: Stop the stopwatch when Luke takes off and Yoda makes his statement: "No, there is another."

Step Four: Look at stopwatch and record the time as your answer.

Simple.

 

Excellent logic!
So this means, seeing as it takes me 2 minutes to switch discs from TPM to AOTC, that Anakin aged a whole decade that quickly! He's a fast bloomer!
(I tease, if that wasn't clear)

 

Yes, that is exactly what it means.

 

You can really cut it down if you press fast forward. And you can travel in time if you hit next chapter button!

 

Impressive, isn't it?

 

He is deep inside the asteroid, and inside a worm, not on the surface.

 

The problem is that the movie really doesn't do a good job in conveying or reflecting the amount of time Luke spent on Dagobah and how long it took the Falcon to reach Bespin.

 

Honestly, you could passably make a case that it happened later that afternoon! Han sez they go to Bespin, Luke has vision, next cut at Bespin, then Luke is loading up his X-Wing. Prove me wrong, kids! Prove me wrong!

 

I just wanted to de-rail this "How long was Luke on Degobah thread" further by stating my favorite part of this discussion is imagining Leia Lounging around in Han's pajama's aboard the Falcon...

Not sure that's canon though.....

 

Seeing as this:

seems to be derailing the ST thread a bit, maybe we can continue the discussion here.


From the post-Disney-buyout book Star Wars in 100 Scenes, we have:

"The Falcon needed several weeks to limp from Anoat to Bespin with her backup hyperdrive."

 

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you mean the one published by DK that isn't a canon book...

that's like me publsihing a book on star wars.

next you are going to tell me the Taco Bell PT toys are canon. at least those are officially licensed


edit: https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Star_Wars_in_100_Scenes#cite_note-Tweet-1

man you and your sources. This is not working out well for you

 

It was believed canon initially, until it was clarified that the Story Group hadn't actually vetted it - and it was full of Legends-originating character names.

Pablo Hidalgo, who worked for Lucasfilm long before becoming one of the Story Group, said that the trip took approximately 1 month, in Star Wars Insider 99 (October 2008).

https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Forum:KB:How_long_was_Luke_on_Dagobah?

Presumably that was where The Essential Atlas (published August 2009) got the "several weeks" from, and Star Wars in 100 Scenes got it from The Essential Atlas.

So - we can trace the "one month" figure back to October 2008. Any earlier?

 

This has always been my impression. I seem to remember Kershner lamenting his mistake in not making the passage of time - several weeks - more clear, but I can't seem to find the source.

 

I googled it - and Google said it was The Annotated Screenplays that had Kershner talking about it.

 

well no it wasn't. It was never an official book reference books aren't canon. they have canon things in them but they are not considered canon. When we talking about books we are talking about things like the movies, comics or so on. Not books talking about Star Wars.

Yes we have a very early source May 17th 1980 the movie.

he might have said that but it doesn't change the movie. That's like Lucas talking abut how he wished he had Boba Fett have a better death or survive. Just because he wanted it doesn't mean it happened.


Hell if Lucas wanted to he could have added in one of the many special editions "4 weeks later"

and let's be honest that wouldn't be a bad change or feel out of place compared to Greedo shooting first or Mcklunky.

 

Sweet. I'll read up when I get home and report back.

No. One is a description of regret for portraying one event rather than another. The other is an event that occurred but the filmmaker regrets not having conveyed as clearly as was intended.

By the logic of your statement: objects that appear out of focus do not exist.

 

well no that's not at all what's going and in no way does that follow my logic.

We have a very clear view of what goes on in the movie and it's a couple days max. Looking back he realizes he might have changed it but he didn't and again George lucas has changed the movies many times now this was never something he felt the need to clarify

 

Even as a kid I thought that it was at least a month.

Han and Leia's relationship seems to have changed since we last saw them when they kissed. They seem to be a couple once they've gotten to Cloud City, and they seem smitten. They seem to worked past all their disagreements, which would take some time. Han's attitude towards Lando seems to be "stop flirting with her, she's my gal" and Leia doesn't object to that.

Luke also seems to have spent a lot of time training. We don't see him starting a new lesson. We see him in the middle of mastering different skills that would require some practice -- levitating the rocks into a pile, while balanced upside down on 1 arm; knowing the path in an obstacle course type of thing.

Also, it's clear that Falcon's hyperdrive is out-of-commission. That would make quick travel between Bespin and Hoth impossible. That means they're traveling at a sub-light speeds, and solar systems aren't right next door to one another. The closest to ours is 4 light years away, though clearly Bespin and Hoth are closer than that. Still, Bespin and Hoth couldn't be too close or their gravitation would pull the 2 stars into a single system. So, again more than a month a near-light speed would seem right.

Kershner may have wanted to make it more clear that a month passed, but I don't think that's necessary, as that was already clear to me.

 

if they are 4 light years away and are moving slower then the speed of light then it would take more then 4 years to get there.

Star Wars is sci fantasy not science fiction

 

Not all solar systems are that far apart. However, if Hoth and Bespin were only a light day, then they're solar systems would've merged into one. Also, there are the other reasons I mentioned.

 

yeah.. a light day would affect the gravity. You would need to be at least a light year apart and remember Hoth is supposed to be on the ass end of the galaxy. Hence why it's hard to find them so it's safe to assume that Bespin isn't that close.

In the old EU Bespin was about 1k light years away from Hoth. yes that is no longer canon but you can come to the conculsion that it was never meant to be just next door.

 

Fett could have followed them just long enough to extrapolate they were going to Bespin with a reasonable degree of certinty and then jumped away, tracked down Death Squadron and informed Vader. He likly could'nt have sent a message (at least in range of the Falcon) since that could be intercepted. By the time all was said and done the empire may have just decided to jump right to Bespin to set their trap if Han and Leia were close enough (not to mention harboring Rebel agents gives the Empire justification to take over the mines if they so desire - a win-win)

Padme's ship, even with a broken hyperdrive, still made it all the way from Naboo to Tatooine, which really are'nt that close to each other according to canon maps - certinly much farther apart then Bespin and Hoth which are close enough to be labeled together on at least one of the maps i have. A backup hyperdrive, even of the slowest possible sort, should still be capable of getting them to any number of places other then Bespin.

I don't think any canon source references the Falcon having a backup hyperdrive.

The Falcon has facilities - Han and Chewie live on the ship remember - it should be fairly easy for them to keep clean and even Leia (who obviusly had only a single pair of clothes) could have worn some of Han's outfits while her outfit was in whatever equivliant of a washing machine the ship has.

Even Luke presumably would have had a shaving kit and some spare clothing stored in his X-wing (he at least brought one extra pair of clothes other then his flightsuit - the combat suit he wears to Bespin)

This is something a lot of peaple seem to miss; by the time they get to Bespin their realtionship definatly seems to have evolved much further then it had in the prior scenes; Han embraces her, kisses her head and cups her cheek when their talking about 3P0 being missing and she seems neither suprised or uncofortable. I always read it as they had definatly become intimate at that point and had been so long enough to be confortable with it. That takes time - not a lot, but definatly more then a couple of days.

Anouther thing, when Luke goes to leave and Yoda warns him about his faliure at that cave Luke references that he's learned so much "since then" - the wording of which indicates that a fair amount of time has passed.

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I think what's easy to forget is these ships are much faster then real-world vessels at sublight; the Rebel fighters close the gap from Yavin 4, around Yavin Prime and too the Death Star fairly fast - hell even the Falcon's chase (which was all at sublight) took them from the Hoth system to the Anoat system (though for all we know Hoth could be at the very edge of it's star system to begin with) in a very short amount of time (days at most, and thats including time spend sitting relativly still inside the asteriod)

To use anouther famous si-fi francise as a comparison the USS Enterprise in STMP books ass from Earth to Jupiter in just "1.8 hours," while the real-world NASA New Horizons probe took thirteen months to get from here to their. Now, i'm not trying to say that the speed of one fictional spaceship in one francise proves the speed of anouther ship in anouther francise, but it does show that fictional futuristic spacecraft can be much faster then they "realisticly" should be.

Their close enough to each other to be labeled together on a map.