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I hate Owen Wilson, the worst actor in Hollywood!

Discussion in 'Archive: Your Jedi Council Community' started by Palpateen, Aug 26, 2002.

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  1. Twink_Kee

    Twink_Kee Jedi Knight star 5

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    I like both Owen and Luke Wilson. Regardless of what one thinks of his acting abilities, I believe his collaberations with Wes Anderson on "the Royal Tenenbaums", "Rushmore", and "Bottle Rocket" to be outstanding. The guy has a good wit to him.

    As an actor, I've never had any trouble with him.
     
  2. epic

    epic Ex Mod star 8 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Yeh, I guess I'm biased because I love Wes Anderson and his films, but the Wilson brothers rule, mang!
     
  3. fn_clone

    fn_clone Jedi Youngling star 3

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    If Keanu Reeves can find work in Hollywood, it's possible for anyone then.
     
  4. AmazingB

    AmazingB Manager Emeritus star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    "But to cast a guy with a beak like Owen as a MODEL?"

    Yeah, it totally ruined the realism of the movie. It wasn't the plot or anything.

    After Rushmore and The Royal Tenenbaums, Owen Wilson can do anything he wants and still be funnier than most of the rest of the world.

    Amazing.
     
  5. Super_Nation_Jock

    Super_Nation_Jock Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Owen Wilson is still working in Hollywood.

    Amazing.
     
  6. JediStrider

    JediStrider Jedi Youngling star 3

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    Not only is Wilson a talented actor (see The Minus Man for one of his more dramatic roles) he is also one of the best writers working in Hollywood. Along with Wes Andersen, he created three amazingly funny and touching scripts with Bottle Rocket, Rushmore, and The Royal Tenenbaums. He's naturally funny, charismatic, and good-natured. Hollywood needs more cats like Owen Wilson... that's all there is to it.
     
  7. DarthLuxor

    DarthLuxor Jedi Padawan star 4

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    It's truly bizarre how he gets parts that he is totally inappropriate for. How in the world did he get a part playing a male supermodel in Zoolander?
    *****

    Because Ben Stiller and Owen Wilson are inseperable.

    The Cable Guy
    Meet The Parents
    Zoolander
    The Royal Tenebaums

    I sure I'm missing a few others.
     
  8. AmazingB

    AmazingB Manager Emeritus star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    "Owen Wilson is still working in Hollywood."

    Um, yeah. I know.

    And for those of us who have a sense of humor, that's a good thing.

    Amazing.
     
  9. nashira

    nashira Manager Emeritus star 4 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    I also think he's reasonably funny. More amusing than many others, at least.

     
  10. Maveric

    Maveric Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Worse than Affleck, he of the non-symetrical face? Never I say to thee!!!!




    NEVER!!!!
     
  11. Palpateen

    Palpateen Jedi Padawan star 4

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    I can't wait to see a movie by Wes and Owen where they don't rely on pop songs to fill in parts of the film where they have no idea what to do! :) It's quite a crutch for Wes, isn't it?
     
  12. JediStrider

    JediStrider Jedi Youngling star 3

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    Oh no... here we go.

    Have you seen Almost Famous... Vanilla Sky... hell, any of Cameron Crowe's films? The music isn't a filler, it's a part of the film. It the same way the dialogue, or the actor, or the plot of the film is. It is not used to "fill" in blank spots of the movie, it is used to enhance the overall movie itself. It's called subtlety, a rather nice touch in today's films considering most of the time film audiences want everything beaten into them before they can understand it. *sigh* I guess this is why mainstream Hollywood movies are turning out so bad, no one understands film anymore.
     
  13. Twink_Kee

    Twink_Kee Jedi Knight star 5

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    Wow.

    Somebody on a Star Wars message board complaining to what amounts to a "musical sequence"? If you like Star Wars - and I assume you do - you do realize that they are filled with similar scenes (ie, Binary sunset)? Of course the main difference is that Star Wars using symphony orchestra, and Anderson and Wilson use thematic modern songs (as in the case with "Rushmore", they used "British invasion" rock)

    But it is still done for the same purpose, and that is to convey moods, characters, and feelings without spoken dialogue.
     
  14. Super_Nation_Jock

    Super_Nation_Jock Jedi Padawan star 4

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    WOW.

    "No one understands film anymore." Well, speak for yourself.

    These last two messages are so arrogant and condescending it's comical. You fellows think you're pretty smart about movies and music eh?

    Let me tell you guys where Mr. Cameron Crowe and Mr. Wes Anderson got that cute little trick of using pop songs to move their story along...that's right, Mr. George Lucas used that (at the time) innovative technique to maximum effect in a little 1973 movie called AMERICAN GRAFFITI. Yes, I'm quite familiar with the lay of this particular land. And GRAFFITI was so huge and successful that the style of using pop songs was copied ad nauseum. It became a cliche'. It reached it's zenith in 1994 and it was used to excellent effect in FORREST GUMP. Actually, it was overused in GUMP.
    BUT there was still room on the GUMP soundtrack for an extraordinary score by Alan Silvestri. You knew Silvestri had a good score coming with his exquisite timing of the feather's flight path in the opening credit sequences.

    Lucas abandoned that technique in 1978 when AMERICAN GRAFFITI II was such a DOG. He had moved on to bigger and better things. Like the London Symphony Orchestra, John Williams, and music that is written and timed to the images with an emotional connection that grows from the characters and story itself, and that supports the scenes while commenting on them.

    Wes Anderson's use of pop tunes is about as subtle as hitting a mule in the head with a brick. Same for Cameron Crowe. Cameron must LOVE Tiny Dancer by Elton John and Bernie Taupin. Once in ALMOST FAMOUS on the bus was great, the sing along. I bought that. But twice?

    Lucas has made 8 hugely successful films without using the crutch of pop tunes.
    When are Wes Anderson and Cameron Crowe gonna do that? :)

    I hate Owen Wilson. The most over-rated talent in Hollywood.
     
  15. ObI-WaN-JeDi-GuRl

    ObI-WaN-JeDi-GuRl Jedi Master star 4

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    Give me a pic. SO I can se who he is...

    Error: Only 1 message post per minute is allowed.

     
  16. Darth_Goofy

    Darth_Goofy Jedi Master star 4

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    You didn't say please...

    Anyway, I don't think he's that bad of an actor. He's just kind of there. I don't hate him, but I don't love him.
     
  17. JediStrider

    JediStrider Jedi Youngling star 3

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    Wait, so, the success of Jerry Maguire, Vanilla Sky, Rushmore, and The Royal Tenenbaums is based purely on this "crutch" of pop tunes? I think not. But since you want to play this game, we will.

    In film, any device can be used to enhance the movie, wether it be a symphonic orchestra OR pop songs. But sometimes the use of such things is NOT subtle. Take xXx for example. Every action scene is over the top, crazy, and explosive, and the soundtrack tries to reflect that. But with all this stuff happening at one time, the movie suffers from overkill. The same can be said with a orchestral score. Take A Walk to Remember for instance. Every time a major "emotional moment!" would happen in the movie, the soundtrack would JUMP to life and try to initiate some sort of reaction in the audience member. Not what I'd call subtle.

    Now, let's reverse it. Star Wars has one of the absolute best scenes ever put to film, the binary sunset. The scene absolutely WOULD NOT work without John Williams music. Now take your above example of the Tiny Dancer bus scene; it, also, would not work WITHOUT THE MUSIC. Why? Because both filmmakers rely on this enhancement of their films, in this case music, to make a scene more powerful than it otherwise would be. It's not a "lack of" something, it's nothing more than good fimmaking.
     
  18. VladTheImpaler

    VladTheImpaler Jedi Padawan star 4

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    >>>He single-handedly RUINED Shanghai Noon for me. Everytime he opened his mouth and whined in that prolonged, nasal drone of his, I wanted to kill him. That movie would have been FANTASTIC if someone else had played that role.<<<

    I know everyone has differing tastes and all, but I am really shocked to hear someone say this. What exactly did you like about Shanghai Noon? The story was stupid, the characters were all cliche, and the fight sequences were probably the most boring fights I've ever seen in a Jackie Chan movie.

    The only thing that saved it for me was the comedy. And if you look at the movie in script form, a lot of the comedy could have come off as extremely bad, had it not been for Owen Wilson and Jackie Chan, who both gave very funny performances IMO.

    >>>It's truly bizarre how he gets parts that he is totally inappropriate for. How in the world did he get a part playing a male supermodel in Zoolander? With THAT nose?<<<

    Has it ever occured to you that Zoolander is a comedy?

    Also, why is it such a crime when Wes Anderson uses pop music in his movies? Pop music or orchestral score, it's all the same, really. It combines with the images to push the story forward and evoke a certain mood or feeling.

    Hell, that's what dialogue does too. What do you want? You want Wes Anderson to make a movie with no sound at all? Why don't we get rid of the picture, too. It'll just be a blank screen for two and a half hours. Yeah that would be great.
     
  19. solojones

    solojones Chosen One star 10

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    I agree with Amazing on this issue. Rushmore and The Royal Tennenbaums... hmmmm, funny. Owen Wilson is cool. And I liked Shanghi Noon, too. I think he's funny.

    And his nose could kill you [face_plain]

    -sj loves kevin spacey
     
  20. Estranged

    Estranged Jedi Padawan star 4

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    "Your sexy."
    "What?"
    "You heard me."

    Owen Wilson is funny as hell. I'm sorry he's just great and thats all I got to say.

    "Greg's Jewish."
    "Oh hey so was JC. You're in good company."


    "Hey man what's the story with our chicken? Can you believe the attitude?"
     
  21. Son of the Suns

    Son of the Suns Administrator Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    I just love how everyone and everything is "the worst" according to the JCC. [face_plain]
     
  22. Saint_of_Killers

    Saint_of_Killers Jedi Youngling star 5

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    I think he's hot.
     
  23. SW3TheHolidaySpecial

    SW3TheHolidaySpecial Jedi Padawan star 4

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    I find him amusing fow now,but when you play the same character over and over again your steam runs out fast.

    But he does have a nice "regular guy" quality to him.
     
  24. Twink_Kee

    Twink_Kee Jedi Knight star 5

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    S_N_J, Lucas used period pieces that fit in with the exact timeframe of "American Grafitti" (ala "The Wedding Singer" later on). That is completely different from what Anderson and Wilson did with their musical narrations.

    In fact, you could say what Lucas did with American Grafitti was not musical narration at all, but just source music.
     
  25. celera

    celera Jedi Youngling star 2

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    Shanghai Noon may be stupid but it's hilarious. Stupidity wouldn't work if you can't laugh at it.
     
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