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ST Ian McDiarmid (Plapy) in Episode IX

Discussion in 'Sequel Trilogy' started by dlbates, Dec 24, 2018.

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Will it be revealed that Palpatine created Vader in episode IX?

  1. Yes

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    42.2%
  2. No

    196 vote(s)
    57.8%
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  1. ThisIsTheWay

    ThisIsTheWay Jedi Knight star 2

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    It's possible the original model was simply created and the copies Kylo discovers are copies of the OG.
     
  2. jedijax

    jedijax Force Ghost star 6

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    Who/what is the "OG"? Old grandpa?
     
  3. ThisIsTheWay

    ThisIsTheWay Jedi Knight star 2

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    Meant to say the original creation.
     
  4. jedijax

    jedijax Force Ghost star 6

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    Original creation of what?
     
  5. ThisIsTheWay

    ThisIsTheWay Jedi Knight star 2

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    Of Snoke. I’m saying that it’s possible that there is no original template because Palpatine had the original snoke cursed be it via science, the force or some mixture of the two.
     
  6. Biel Ductavis

    Biel Ductavis Jedi Master star 4

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    Maybe an imperfect clone of Sheev or maybe one of Plagueis, to add insult to the injury of killing him.

    It would be totally like Palpatine, to resurrect his master, who knew the secret to keep others from dying, to become his servant and mock him after the death through his hands
     
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  7. jedijax

    jedijax Force Ghost star 6

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    Plaguis clone.....in order to learn how to cheat death perhaps? That would actually be pretty interesting.
     
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  8. The Chalk Jedi

    The Chalk Jedi Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    It would be more interesting to me (maybe only to me) if Palpatine didn't return at all, but we explored his legacy more. We could have done this through his son/daughter or a group of Sith priests or cultists who are looking for the heir of Palpatine. The entire trilogy would have been more fun if something like this had been brought up in episode 7. We could have had different wannabe Sith competing for dominance, until Kylo takes control. The Knights of Ren would have worked well as this Sith cult, and we could have done away with the First Order and created a much darker, weirder groups of baddies than wannabe Imperials. The First Order doesn't really get into the creepy weirdness of the return of alt-right wannabe fascism, IMO.

    And if Palpatine's son/daughter are established, then they could have dangled the possibility of Rey being related much earlier, and actually explored how this would affect her over the course of three films.

    I like Palpatine and all, but I think general audiences will be confused and bored by his return. Most people have some understanding he was killed in ROTJ, and will likely roll their eyes when he comes back.

    With me at least, I would have been more interested in his return if his legacy was explored more deeply first so it didn't just seem like an easy plot solution.
     
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  9. Harbour

    Harbour Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Sorry, Plapy, you didnt deserve this. Ill miss you.

    [​IMG]
     
  10. MagnarTheGreat

    MagnarTheGreat Force Ghost star 5

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    https://uproxx.com/movies/chris-terrio-interview-rise-of-skywalker-palpatine-lando/

    https://io9.gizmodo.com/why-star-wars-past-is-so-important-to-the-future-in-the-1840182217
     
  11. DarthPhilosopher

    DarthPhilosopher Chosen One star 6

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    Palpatine has so many trailer bait lines in the PT and OT. Talk about cherry picking.
     
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  12. Lord Exor

    Lord Exor Jedi Master star 4

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    Chiznuk Edit: Removed image that contained disallowed word.
    Hah, does anyone know where this came from?
     
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  13. Darth Chiznuk

    Darth Chiznuk Superninja of Future Films star 8 Staff Member Manager

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    No idea but since it contains a disallowed word let's refrain from posting it here.
     
  14. jedijax

    jedijax Force Ghost star 6

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    People are taking this "it was all part of the plan" thing way too seriously.

    The fact that Palpatine was an idea from the beginning was just that. An idea from the beginning. Doesn't mean that every single thing was planned from the beginning.
     
  15. Aximili86

    Aximili86 Jedi Master star 4

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    Perspective is not allowed, man. Those lines in the prequel promos don't count, they weren't done by Abrams or Johnson!

    :)
     
  16. Harbour

    Harbour Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Thats what Disney sells for Palpatine. I would be very happy if in the movie itself he would show himself as cunning and good orator. Right now it doesnt look like the case.
    And let be honest - his plan is just get two force sensitives and suck them dry, and later he would be cucked by Rey like a joke. The meme depicts the reality now and most likely would demand even more harsh picture December 20th.
     
  17. DarthPhilosopher

    DarthPhilosopher Chosen One star 6

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    His dialogue is no more 'hammy' than dialogue in the other films; you're referring his public speeches, which he probably doesn't make in IX. I'm sorry to say it but this is an over the top false complaint.

    Also not only did you use the word cucked but you used it wrong (thank God).
     
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  18. Jedi_Sith_Smuggler_Droid

    Jedi_Sith_Smuggler_Droid Force Ghost star 6

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    Sorry mate this meme's a bust. Is it a meme or some sort of history chart? Did you make it? Good choice of images. The pit fighting oen haveing a getty stamp on it adds to the cheesy charm of the lower portion. Big up on that. Font choice isn't getting any awards.

    But Palpatine is a big ham and a promoter."Get this stilted slime out of my sight." "Not for the Sith - Now it's a tag team. This is Darth Maul." And unlike the UFC Palpatine's the real deal and not staged.
     
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  19. Aximili86

    Aximili86 Jedi Master star 4

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    Psh, the UFC's not staged, man. They're all naturally that drama-queen-y in their real lives, they actually talk that way.

    Bonnneeessaawwww is rreeaaa-ddyyyyy... Etc.
     
  20. themoth

    themoth Force Ghost star 5

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    Judging an entire characterisation based on trailer dialogue? Okay.
     
  21. Darth Smurf

    Darth Smurf Small, but Lethal star 6

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    Has anyone any idea why Ian and Mark were missing on the press conference?
     
  22. Aximili86

    Aximili86 Jedi Master star 4

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    Making out in the green room. Duh.

    Heh, it's probably just something like their characters having the most big revelatory moments and Lucasfilm/Disney brass didn't want to risk either actor dropping something big.
     
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  23. miasma

    miasma Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Alternatively:
    Disney's Palpatine: "Long have I waited, and now your coming together will be your undoing!"

    Lucas's Palpatine: "Ultimate POWERRRR!!!"

    Cherry-picking phrases is fun!
     
  24. Daxon101

    Daxon101 Force Ghost star 6

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    Probably because mark isn't in the film enough to justify him even being there. and with Ian i think they are still fairly secretive about how big of a role he has.
     
  25. Alien Vanguard

    Alien Vanguard Jedi Master star 3

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    Has Mark said anything at all about TROS recently?
     
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