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Jake Lloyd - Now Discussing 'Ten Years After TPM'

Discussion in 'Prequel Trilogy' started by Jedi_Learner, Feb 15, 2003.

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  1. NearysEpiphany

    NearysEpiphany Jedi Youngling star 1

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    Jedi, have you ever seen Apocolypse Now?

    People sure are quick with the "why would anyone waste their time making that" stock reply. Photoshop isn't that hard folks.
     
  2. Strilo

    Strilo Manager Emeritus star 8 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Jedi Learner... no life. :)


    How can they have wanted that when The Matrix was released a long time after The Phantom Menace?

    According to boxofficemojo.com, the Matrix was released on April 2, 1999 in the U.S. The Phantom Menace was released May 19, 1999. Sorry Steve, but that's why they could have wanted to see Anakin be like Neo.

     
  3. Oakessteve

    Oakessteve Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Not over here it wasn't, strilo. :)

    "Jake's performance was fine, which also refelcts well on Lucas' directing style."

    Reflects badly, though, Go-Mer-Tonic. George is no Francios Truffaut when it comes to directing children. He isn't even an M. Night Shyamalan. That's probably why Jake's scenes were so hit and miss for me.
     
  4. NearysEpiphany

    NearysEpiphany Jedi Youngling star 1

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    Definition of Irony:

    When someone with over 4,000 posts on a message board claims that another person with less than 100 posts has no life, for taking 15 minutes to make a funny little picture.

    EDIT: This post and the last one have pushed me over 100 posts. Ok, you're right, I have no life.
     
  5. Strilo

    Strilo Manager Emeritus star 8 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    NearysEpiphany did you not see the :) ? That means I was JOKING. Lighten up.


    Not over here it wasn't, strilo.

    Steve... MILLIONS of fanboys live in the U.S. :p Just because your tiny little island ( :D )has messed up release dates does not mean that over here, people had already seen the Matrix when they saw TPM. TheFury's comment still stands, despite him being a scottish bloke... :D


    -Stri, who has HUGE love for the UK... :)

     
  6. NearysEpiphany

    NearysEpiphany Jedi Youngling star 1

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  7. stone_jedi

    stone_jedi Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Jake's performance was fine, which also refelcts well on Lucas' directing style.

    Again, that's just your opinion, not a fact. Several of us didn't think he was fine, but indeed, that does reflect on Lucas's style and casting decisions.
     
  8. General Kenobi

    General Kenobi Administrator Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    NearysEpiphany, I thought that strilo made it plain that he was joking. No need to start attacking people based on their posting habits.

    Thanks.



    On topic: I liked Jake just fine. I can see where people might have different expectations based on child characters in other films. And I'm not saying Jake's performance was Oscar-worthy or anything. Sure, he could have been given a few better lines, and he could have made a few better deliveries, but I don't think it really detracts from the overall film.
     
  9. Go-Mer-Tonic

    Go-Mer-Tonic Jedi Youngling star 6

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    [b]Go-Mer (before):[/b] "Jake's performance was fine, which also refelcts well on Lucas' directing style."

    [b]stone_jedi:[/b] Again, that's just your opinion, not a fact. Several of us didn't think he was fine, but indeed, that does reflect on Lucas's style and casting decisions.[hr][/blockquote]I could see your point if Jake had been bad in his role, but since he was great for the part, it reflects well on Jake for his acting ability and it also reflects well on Lucas for making the best casting choice.
     
  10. Strilo

    Strilo Manager Emeritus star 8 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    But see you are both simply stating opinions. The only thing you two agree on is that either way, it reflects on GL.
     
  11. Go-Mer-Tonic

    Go-Mer-Tonic Jedi Youngling star 6

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    As long as enough people like what he is doing, the rest don't really mater.

    Just like it was with the classic trilogy.
     
  12. DrEvazan

    DrEvazan Jedi Youngling star 4

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    RE: Jake Lloyd and the other kids in TPM

    they may be kids, but they are also actors...

    in most other films where there are kids they seem to be able to act just fine, no one has to make excuses... why do the kids in TPM get different treatment?

    i could go through a list of other films with child actors who actually perform and act convincingly. if anything, bad acting from kids is the exception to the rule. look at all the tv shows and commercials where no one has to make the "they're just kids" excuse.

    Mickey Rooney, Ron Howard, Roddy McDowell, Ricky Schroeder, Tatum O'Neal, Jody Foster, River Phoenix, Billy Mumy, Lukas Haas, Ethan Hawke, Dean Stockwell, Anna Paquin, Natalie Wood, Dana Hill, even Natalie Portman in "The Professional"... no one ever had to make the excuse for them... they were all fine actors when they were "just kids"... why the excuses for Jake Lloyd and the kids of TPM?

    what is it about Jake Lloyd's completley unskilled delivery makes his performance right for the part? he is acting like a kid who can't act. in other words, he's not acting, he is just reciting lines with no spin, motivation or meaning behind them. i cannot see why that is a good thing. he is not acting "innocent" he is not acting "mean" he is not acting "excited" or "kind-hearted". he is not acting at all. i do not blame him or hate him, i just do not think he is much of an actor, just a kid reading lines by rote. how anyone thinks that's a good thing that helps tell the story or make TPM a better film is beyond me.

    also, why is jedi learner responding to his own thread using a different name?
     
  13. Go-Mer-Tonic

    Go-Mer-Tonic Jedi Youngling star 6

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    Our point isn't that they need excuses, but that they were fine for their respective roles.
     
  14. DrEvazan

    DrEvazan Jedi Youngling star 4

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    fine meaning "good enough"?

    i dont agree. Lloyd's performance does not do the job it needs to, which is convey information or further meaning through his performance. any nine year old could have read his lines with just as much conviction. he simply was not believable to me. the only thing he managed to convey in the film is that he was nine years old, and that alone is not "good enough".
     
  15. JKBurtola

    JKBurtola Jedi Youngling star 4

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    DrEvazan, just accept that people have that opinion.
    The whole idea of whether JL was perfect for Anakin is purely SUBjective.

    I personally disagree with your opinion (but you're determined to hate anything prequel based and bitch about it).
    Just get over it, you wont win any supporters ok.

     
  16. Go-Mer-Tonic

    Go-Mer-Tonic Jedi Youngling star 6

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    I have a feeling that Jake wasn't supposed to be conveying the things you feel are "missing" from his performance, DrEvazan.

    Jake wasn't oscar worthy, but he was more than capable in his role.
     
  17. DrEvazan

    DrEvazan Jedi Youngling star 4

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    "I have a feeling that Jake wasn't supposed to be conveying the things you feel are "missing" from his performance, DrEvazan."

    well as i said, he didnt convey anything other than he was nine years old, so im not sure what you are saying.

    ill just agree to disagree, "good enough" is not always "good enough"...

    and i would appreciate it if you dont characterize my expressing of opinions as "bitching" next time just because you dont agree with them jedi_learner/jkburtola/whatever other name you go by.
     
  18. AdmiralOzzal

    AdmiralOzzal Jedi Youngling star 1

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    I agree with DrEvaZan, Lurking, Hawk, Nearus and the others on this thread who felt that Jake's performance was at best bland . . .

    The best that I can say for Jake was that he finished his lines . . . the worst that I can say about him is that he protrayed his character without depth, emotion or care . . . he was not an actor that captured the character and protrayed him (Anakin) convincingly to many in the audience . . . to many, he seemed no more than a cardboard "actor" that blandly recited memorized lines from one scene to another . . .

    I also agree with most in this thread that Jake's performance is a reflection on GL's current ability to direct not so "stellar" actors (for good or bad, depending on which way you see Jake's performance)
     
  19. Juan_Tufte

    Juan_Tufte Jedi Master star 1

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    I loathe Jake Lloyd with every fiber of my being.
     
  20. General Kenobi

    General Kenobi Administrator Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    OK, let's stay on topic and keep from getting personal.

    JK, telling someone to stop bitching and get over it is not good discussion or constructive in any way.
     
  21. topgoalscorer_no11

    topgoalscorer_no11 Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Jake Lloyd diddled my childhood.
     
  22. Juan_Tufte

    Juan_Tufte Jedi Master star 1

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    I was exaggerating but was too lazy to use one of those "smiley" icons.
     
  23. Jedi_Learner

    Jedi_Learner Jedi Knight star 5

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    GK edit: OK, I just warned you guys to get back on topic and stop with the personal attacks.
     
  24. TokyoXtreme

    TokyoXtreme Jedi Master star 4

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    Interesting angle on this thread: what is TPM's Anakin Skywalker supposed to be outside of a nine-year-old kid? Lucas didn't paint a whole hell of a lot with his characterization. Is Anakin cold? He says so I guess. Does he miss his mom? Well if he says so. And so on.
     
  25. Go-Mer-Tonic

    Go-Mer-Tonic Jedi Youngling star 6

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    All Jake was supposed to be was a 9 year old kid. What else were you guys expecting?
     
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