Jedi religion founder accuses Tesco of discrimination over rules on hoods

Haha! This is totally hilarious!

1. I didn't know an actual Jedi religion existed.

2. The grocery store owners make all the right points by saying Obi-Wan and Yoda appeared hoodless so the guy doesn't HAVE to wear his hood. Go them!

3. Wearing a hood doesn't make you a follower of the Jedi way. If the religion is REALLY inspired by the films then they should be following the philosphies and not be pedantic about the associated clothing. The Jedi in the films are not about symbols and material things. In fact, if that religion demands you wear the hood in public, I wouldn't want to be a part of a religion that tries to control how I express myself.

 

I'm glad to see Ender_sai talking sense here. Can it just also be pointed out that as the Jedi religions "founder", the absurd rule that Jedi have to wear hoods in public probably came from Jones himself. It's like Bobby Henderson claiming religious discrimination for not being allowed to wear a pirate outfit. (Pastafarianism if anyone doesn't know what i mean)

 

Of course. I always talk sense.

ES

 

I agree. It's totally silly and I'm sure it's an attention-seeking exercise.

 

I distinctly remember that when a census was held in New-Zealand in 2000, Jedi got officially listed because there were over 10.000 people who filled that in as their religion. This guy was 14, then... So we could sue him for falsely appropriating the title of Founder Of Jediiism.

Or else we could talk about the Flemmish headscarf ban.

 

I've always thought the rules against hoods and hats were rather silly. But I also think it's silly to create an entire religion based on a fictional religion. So they're both foolish. I think the Jedi will lose, though, since you'd have a hard time proving you actually believe in it or that you're just a nutter.

 

Given the popularity of Star Wars and the pioneering effort of Scientology I'd say this religion has a shot at going mainstream.

 

Agreed. Although I think it'd be just as silly as $cientology.

 

Eh, one could make the cripplingly ignorant argument about any religion. And the belief in the ability to manipulate the Force isn't THAT much different from the Catholic belief in miracles as a prereq for sainthood.

Honestly, I don't consider "I believe the story from a sci-fi movie is real" to be any more ridiculous than "I believe there's a magic man in the sky who created EVERYTHING and who, despite being omnipotent, took thousands of years to work out the kinks of the whole prophet/'delivering My message to the people' schtick, including that one that went WAY off the rails when people started thinking he WAS God." Sure, one side has had many more people believing it for much longer, but that doesn't make it any less ridiculous.

 

Agreed. I can't make a good case for why the Jedis are more wildly wrong than the Scientologists or the Christians.

 

But in the GFFA they got the Force. We don't have the Force. As can be demonstrated. The people who call themselves Jedi lack the abilities to properly qualify as such according to their source. The Bible doesn't have that problem...

 

Who says the Force doesn't exist? When I start my own Jedi compound, I will use Jedi mind tricks to recruit and retain new members. You will give me all your money (A Jedi craves not these things). You will provide your teenage daughter to me for my harem (let go your anger). You will perform a hard day's labor in return for a cot on the floor and three square meals of gruel each day (Don?t center on your anxiety. Keep your concentration on the here and now).

 

Sure, sure, but I mean: how are you going to make a pear float.

 

But to engage in a little cross-thread examination here-E_S, you have to see how your stance in the capital punishment thread is now returning full circle?

And comparisons with Islam are idiotic, I expected better from you of all people Malkie. One's a religion with over a century of tradition and millions of followers, the other's only marginally less nerdy than learning to speak Klingon.

To be fair to Malkie, he's now taking the exact same position you took in the other thread, which was why I was so puzzled at your stance then. Remember when you indicated that you didn't care about centuries of tradition in Japan, or that you thought the strong religious foundation was meaningless in Middle Eastern states?

The same social ties guide both areas here, because as you said, it's society that places values on the concepts themselves. I just don't understand how in one thread, you can label the views of millions of people as "barbaric," and then now turn around and differentiate between "One's a religion with over a century of tradition and millions of followers.."

Especially when you included this paragraph in your following post:

But honestly, when you have a lack of rights like in China, an upper middle class nerd with a painful inability to separate fiction and reality being told to drop his hoody makes me angry. It devalues rights, makes the West look absurd, and me ashamed to be a fan.

Now, I don't disagree with your characterization of this Jedi hoodie wearer, but you post represents an interesting dichotomy, to say the least.

 

SW, these requests for crude demonstrations of power badly miss the point of what it means to be a true Jedi.

 

Ugh. That sounds as if they're not just Jedi... They're PT Jedi!

 

Well, heh, there was that one time, after you had that wine cooler...


Slightly more on-topic, how is it that an alleged Jedi Master was unable to just mind trick the store's proprietor into going along with it?

 

Isn't there a "real" religion where the Nuns have to go around with these big elaborate fem-pope hoods with wings on their heads? Do Nuns get kicked outta stores on the threat that someone will yank the hood off their bald heads if they don't let the CCTV see their face?

I'm w/ Jabbadabba here man, all these religions are fake lies, so why is it just chicks getting a break again over some wannabe Jedi? This double standard...

 

I wonder if this is the same Jedi "church"

http://www.jedichurch.org/

In any event, I have to say many of today's religions are fantasy religions anyway, they are just older, giving them some sort of ill-informed legitimacy.

Newer always seems to equal cult,sect or crazy.

But some of the so called newer religions have really examined old idea's and come out and said "This can't be right based on what we know right know".

A good example of that is those that cling to the hopelessly out dated literal 6 - 24 hour days of creation. Not to switch the debate, but the point is newer doesn't always equal wrong.

 

As far as I can tell, no. I saw nothing about hoods up in public when reading about their Jedi way

 

After having read this stunning piece of news, I decide to know a little bit more about this church of Jediism and I think I found it


Now apparently, he is still in the process of writing the guides on how to become a Jedi and frankly some pieces are just hilarious.
But as far as I can see on the website, it does not say anywhere that you HAVE TO wear a hood in public places..must be for the private levels, not the public ones