Killik Sith Lord--Continuity mess!

Unless a "Legions of Lettow" or a "True Sith Empire" retcon is instituted, he wouldn't be directly connected to the Jedi Order. Or perhaps as an independent darksider who happened upon the race during a much earlier era.

 

the (temporary) fix I used on Wiki:

The Killik was a Darksider, and later people whom were ignorant of hiostory mistakenly thought him a Sith Lord

 

they were dark side sect before they were ruled by dark jedi lords. not very kind

this, coupled with the above idea that maybe this was before the dark lords, could give a suitable explanation as to why they were a dark side sect. their contact with a darksider had given the race a fascination with the darkside.

 

ok, here's a weird idea

a Jedi travels to Sarafur (he's bored) and finds the Darkside Killik King's tomb, corrupting him to the Dark Side c. 7000 BBY, returns to the Jedi on Ossus or Coruscant, and start the Jedi Dark Lords after the Killik's teachings, after 100 years they are defeated by the Jedi on Corbos 6900 BBY, they flee to Ziost and Korriban, conquer the Sith, and become the Dark Lords of the Sith, and retroactively consider the King of Sarafur as the "godfather" of their teachings to have been the first Sith Lord despite the fact he never called himself that...


OR

The Killik from Alsakan conquered the Sith species after the collapse of the Infinite Empire but before the rise of the Republic, thus becoming the first true Sith Lord and teaching certain Dark Side practices to the Sith species; he then got homesick, returned to Alsakan, was exiled for his corruption, and conquered Sarafur

long afterwards, 6900 BBY, the Jedi Dark Lords come to Ziost and Korriban, and incorporate his teachings from the Sith species into their own, becoming the Dark Lords of the Sith

either way, the Killik King of Sarafur would be an influential character

btw, the Sarafurians were not Killiks, but were insects, so they may have had a hive mind, and perhaps became Joiners under the Killik King; he may have transformed their society (and led to its extinction?) much as Raynar, Lomi, and Welk did the Killiks later on....

maybe this Killik's proper name was...Sith...so the Sith species took their name from him, as Joiners of his "hive"

 

What source invented the Killik's anyways? I'ma ssuming somethinge arlier than Tatooine Ghost introduced them for it to be possible for a Gamer article to mention them...

 

The Illustrated Star Wars Universe. They were extrapolated from Alderaanian termite hills in old McQuarrie paintings.

 

I balance on the precarious fence of not knowing whether you're serious or not, waiting for the wind of certainty to prod me one way. Coin toss?

 

Not sure if you're talking to me, but just in case...

http://www.starwars.com/eu/lit/ref/f20051025/indexp2.html

The Killiks first appeared in The Illustrated Star Wars Universe (1996, Bantam Books), a lavish coffee table book that served as a tour of the galaxy. The Alderaan chapter included previously unpublished concept artwork by Ralph McQuarrie, identifying enormous termite-like mounds on a grassy landscape as Killik mounds, the monumental remains of a vanished race. The Killiks are hardly vanished, and have been appearing most recently in The Dark Nest Trilogy (2005, Del Rey Books).

 

The wind should have spoken.

There could well be Killik dark Jedi from the First Schism... Killik Sith Lords of the (True Sith) Empire. Killik Krath even... While the species might not be known, I wouldn't discount the possibilities of odd ball individuals lurking around. People would wonder about them like they wondered about Thon and Yoda.

 

interesting idea, but as much as I like retcons and new info, we shouldn´t alter what we know about history too much! like the rakata killiks arn´t superbeings and responsible for everything! every time a new superspecies turns up, rakata, killiks, celestials, architect, gree, sharu, aing ti etc. all is blamed on them.. be careful with such stuff. though your idea is interesting and there is something up with the force and that killik and darksiders / sith, I think the easiest explanation should be taken, because otherwise it gets too messy historywise.

 

If, by "Killik Krath," you're referring to the ancient Krath -- the ones Satal and Aleema based their Neo-Krath movement on -- it could see that work, since we ain't had much info on that original group to date.

Assuming we take the c. 27,500 BBY dating-lock as a given (as we should, for the moment), we're still probably looking at a "True Sith" retcon for this, or something else entirely...Senator_Cilghal's oblique-oblique-retrofix of a some Third Great Schism-era darksider happening upon an ancient post-Rakatan Killik darksider's holonotes somewheres, then spreading those teachings like the bird-flu.

(Think I prefer the "real Sith" hypothesis, meself.)

 

Wasn't the force only discovered 25, 000 years BBY by the people who become the first Jedi? Unless I got my numbers wrong, that doesn't make the date 27, 000 BBY plausible.

 

How do we know that the ancient Sith weren't actually Killiks? The chin-tails could be the vestigial mandibles of "Sithified" hybrids?

- The Imperial Ewok

 

the thing that makes the SW so great is the continuity, they start using time travel to explain things, and its no fun anymore.

Something Jacen Solo came very close to doing in TJK.

 

This is one of those rare occasions when I'm mum concerning events of this topic. I'll have to databyte myself uptodate.

 

An interesting theory, McEwok. True Sith are routinely described as having insectile-characteristics....

 

Are you referring to the Korriban Sith-species? The "True Sith," we don't have much true physical data on as of yet; all we can infer from them at the moment is their architecture and a few other things...but on the other hand, who's to say that perhaps the Korribani ones aren't descended from the "True Sith"?

 

Any possibility that the Killik Sith Lord could be a Sith Mystic who stumbled across a Killik Nest and became a joiner? We know that the Killiks can and have detached joiners from their hives, but while they're connected, a joiner is effectively a killik with a different set of vocal chords. Perhaps the blending was complete enough that the Sith shaman priest mystic person became very similar to the Killik.

I also like the idea that the Sith might have some Killik in them, but I doubt that they are direct descendants or evolved from a Killik nest. The original Sith stock would need to have been humanoid enough to produce reproductive organs capable of interaction with their human counterparts...quite impossible for insects.

 

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