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Korum Sugaram from Temple of Doom???

Discussion in 'Lucasfilm Ltd. In-Depth Discussion' started by Indy3, Mar 22, 2002.

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  1. Indy3

    Indy3 Jedi Knight star 5

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    what does that ritual during the movie mean?
    korum sugaram????
    and
    the shankara stones is that based on anything true?

    SEYA
     
  2. flyingseal

    flyingseal Jedi Padawan star 4

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    During the sacrifice, Mola Ram chants in Hindi, imploring "Kali Ma Shakti de," asking for the "Spiritual power of Mother Kali."

    The village shaman refers to the Sankara stone as "Shiva linga". In traditional Hinduism, the linga is a tall, cylindrical stone representative of a phallus, often set inside a circle representing the yoni, or female organ. Together, the two symbols stand for the dualistic sexual energy of the god Shiva.
     
  3. flyingseal

    flyingseal Jedi Padawan star 4

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    sorry but i don't know about korum sugaram, hope my other message was usefull
     
  4. Indy3

    Indy3 Jedi Knight star 5

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    do you know hindi?
    how do you know that?
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    was the thuggee cult have a background with the "Shiva linga"
    SEYA
     
  5. Darth_Sidious7

    Darth_Sidious7 Jedi Youngling

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    He read it in the "Indiana Jones And The Temple Of Doom" trivia section in imdb. He copied it word for word.
     
  6. Indy3

    Indy3 Jedi Knight star 5

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    does anybody know what that means????

    SEYA
     
  7. Dubya_Fett

    Dubya_Fett Jedi Youngling star 3

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    I thought they were chanting "Mola Ram Suta Ram". Mola Ram is the name of the Thuggee high priest in the movie.

    I don't know if the Sankara Stones are actually part of Hindu myth, but Hindus do worship sacred lingas like the stones in the film. Sankara was an actual historical character, a Hindu prophet. Mount Kailash was the fabled home of the god Shiva, and the lingas are also representative of it.

    The Thuggee cult in the film is inspired by an actual secret society of thieves and murderers that operated in northern India until the early 19th century, but the movie takes great liberties with the facts. "Temple of Doom's" Thuggee cult is more a pastiche of various occult practices from fact and fiction. The reality was quite different.

    Members of the cult were known as Thugs (meaning "charlatans") and the practice of being a Thug was called Thuggee. The Thugs did not rip out people's hearts and lower them into lava pits like in the movie. Instead they preyed upon unsuspecting travellers, befriending their victims before strangling them with scarves. The Thugs would rob their victims, then bury the corpses in pre-dug graves. For this reason the Thugs' symbol was a pick-axe.

    The Thugs worshipped the Hindu goddess Kali and claimed their crimes were motivated by her will. Kali is sometimes worshipped with blood sacrifices, mostly from animals, although there are theories that humans may have been sacrificed in ancient times. However, the Thugs had both Hindus and Muslims as members, and some say it was a band of foreign Muslim that first formed the group. The Thugs perfected the art of strangling, as killing without shedding blood was deemed a great show of skill.

    Stories say that the Thugs would spare the lives of their victims' children, then train them in Thuggee. Once one took an oath to be a Thug, they were to stay obedient to the group until death. It's hard to know how many of the stories about the Thugs are true, due to the secrecy of the cult and xenophobic propaganda by British colonialists. The British played up the legend of the Thugs for their own agenda and used the dismantling of the secret society to justify their "civilizing" presence in India.

    -Dubya Fett
     
  8. DarthYama

    DarthYama Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    There's people like that in the later books in the Black Company series, for the record.
     
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