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Saga KOTOR: Should it be canon?

Discussion in 'Star Wars Saga In-Depth' started by Darth Formidious, Sep 3, 2016.

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Should KOTOR be reintroduced to canon?

  1. Yes, they were brilliant!

    17 vote(s)
    53.1%
  2. No, I hated them!

    4 vote(s)
    12.5%
  3. Impartial (apathy is death!)

    11 vote(s)
    34.4%
  1. TheMoldyCrow

    TheMoldyCrow Jedi Master star 3

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    But did we need to see a lightsaber every five minutes? After all, the Jedi can do a lot more than swing around a lightsaber. We especially didn't need to see Yoda and Palpatine have one.
     
  2. darklordoftech

    darklordoftech Force Ghost star 6

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    Maybe KOTOR is the content of a holocron? I know that Tales of the Jedi was intended to be the content of a holocron.
     
  3. missile

    missile Jedi Padawan star 1

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    I agree, the jedi should be using the force most of the time any way.
     
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  4. ConservativeJedi321

    ConservativeJedi321 Force Ghost star 6

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    To each there own. I like seeing Jedi use the Jedi's weapon. And the Sith too as they have always been portrayed too.[face_dunno]
     
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  5. Huttese 101

    Huttese 101 Sam Witwer Enthusiast star 6

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    Personally I could go either way. I don't see how they could re-canonize KOTOR at this point after the canon reboot was touted as a clean break, but at the same time, the KOTOR games were very well made and they each made fantastic contributions to the breadth and depth of Star Wars canon. I just voted "impartial." Would it be weird to say I wouldn't mind them being made canon again, but with a tweak to the timeline? I mean I used to think the Old Republic era was really cool but one thing about it that constantly bugged me was just how many years before the Saga movies it took place. 4,000 years BBY? What? Why? Maybe they could move 'em up a bit to circa 1,000 BBY, around the time of the New Sith Wars in the old canon (since I think it's been hinted that the Ruusan Reformations might kind of be grandfathered in too). I think that could dovetail nicely with the way canon is headed. Anyway I suspect it won't ever be canon again wholesale, but Lucasfilm is going to keep doing the piecemeal thing they like to do.

    Taris is canon again too. I'm sure everybody already knows that though. One of the New Republic politicians standing on the balcony on Hosnian Prime before it was blown up in TFA was actually the NR senator from Taris. It was in TFA Visual Dictionary, I think.
     
  6. Talos of Atmora

    Talos of Atmora Force Ghost star 5

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    Yeah, why would they be using their primary weapon in a combat situation?! I mean, what a ridiculous notion! :rolleyes:
     
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  7. TheMoldyCrow

    TheMoldyCrow Jedi Master star 3

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    Yes, combat situations typically against Battle Droids, probably the most ineffective villains in cinema.
     
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  8. Talos of Atmora

    Talos of Atmora Force Ghost star 5

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    And?
     
  9. Huttese 101

    Huttese 101 Sam Witwer Enthusiast star 6

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    I don't understand this useless KOTOR vs. prequels antagonism. I like both. I'm not even sure I've heard a "KOTOR is better than PT because XYZ" argument before until now. And these comparisons are pretty disingenuous. Fact is, the prequels are still SW canon whereas KOTOR isn't anymore.
     
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  10. darklordoftech

    darklordoftech Force Ghost star 6

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    There wouldn't even be KOTOR without the prequels. KOTOR started development as a Clone Wars game, but Bioware found they were constrained by the timeline, so they rewrote their game to take place thousands of years earlier. Also, before the prequels were written, "Darth" was a first name (although it was an alias), not a title, meaning none of the characters in KOTOR would be called "Darth" without the prequels.
     
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  11. Force Smuggler

    Force Smuggler Force Ghost star 7

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    So people can't like KOTOR more than the PT because the PT is canon and the KOTOR isn't? Maybe they just like KOTOR more than the PT. Opinions and all that.
     
  12. Huttese 101

    Huttese 101 Sam Witwer Enthusiast star 6

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    [face_sigh]

    Never said that. You can like whatever you want however you want. You do you. I just think it's a useless debate here. Why does it matter if you like KOTOR better than the PT? It's apples and oranges anyway. But this is about whether KOTOR should be canon again. The PT was always canon.
     
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  13. Force Smuggler

    Force Smuggler Force Ghost star 7

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    Seemed like you meant it that way to me.
     
  14. Talos of Atmora

    Talos of Atmora Force Ghost star 5

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    I think Force Smuggler's reason for asking is that this same kind of argument appears in Republic vs TCW debates. They argue that TCW is better than Republic because it's canon and that's where it stops for them. Like canonicity determines quality.
     
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  15. Force Smuggler

    Force Smuggler Force Ghost star 7

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    The actual characters, their characterizations and relationships, the planets, ships, alien species, alien societies, groups the plot of the story, how coherent it feels, etc. Not whether it is deemed canon or not. All of it is just work of fiction anyway.
     
  16. Talos of Atmora

    Talos of Atmora Force Ghost star 5

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    Essentially. Which is why I wasn't really mad that long when Legends was labelled as a separate continuity.
     
  17. darklordoftech

    darklordoftech Force Ghost star 6

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    I feel like KOTOR should have been set in the 2000 BBY - 1000 BBY era instead of immediately after TOTJ. KOTOR feels disconnected from TOTJ, has way more advanced tech than TOTJ, and 2000 BBY - 1000 BBY was already established to be an era of Sith wars.
     
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  18. Blackhole E Snoke

    Blackhole E Snoke Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    It feels that way only if you fixate on TOTJ's ancient design style in its artwork. If you ignore that and say its just an artists impression of the time and not necessarily accurate or true, and concentrate on the history told in the dialog of kotor, it feels far more connected. Although it certainly would have helped if Bastila was still Nomi Sunrider's daughter Vima.

    I think the technology in Exar kun's time is the same as in Revan's time. In what way would you say it advanced?
     
  19. M4A1

    M4A1 Jedi Youngling

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    You're forgetting that this was before the Rule Of Two was introduced. There were so many Jedi and Sith at the time that lightsaber battles happened much more frequently.
     
  20. M4A1

    M4A1 Jedi Youngling

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    KOTOR was set before the prequels. About 4,000 years or so. The newer iteration, the MMORPG version takes place some 300 years later. It's not about whether or not it's better than the prequels per se, rather that it should be considered canon.

    The main reason it isn't is because Revan is considered too powerful for this to make any logical sense whatsoever, and therefore can no longer be considered canon.