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levels of the emperor's force users...

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  1. Thief

    Thief Jedi Grand Master star 2

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    By the way, notice that the Emperor's Dark Jedi are not the same things as dark side adepts.

    I took the liberty of making my own version of the list, to compare with your own:

    Aloo, Sim ? Dark Side Adept
    Ap-Llewf, Gwellib ? Dark Side Adept
    Argor ? Lesser Prophet of the Dark Side
    Azrakel ? dark Jedi
    Boc the Crude ? dark Jedi
    Brandl, Adalcri Cessius ? High Inquisitor; dark Jedi Knight
    Brandl, Jaalib ? dark Jedi
    Blackhole ? Emperor's Hand; former Prophet of the Dark Side
    Brie, Shira Ellan Colla (Lady Lumiya) ? Major ? Emperor's Hand; Dark Lady of the Sith
    C'baoth, Joruus ? dark Jedi Master
    Constable of Homunculi ? Dark Side Adept
    Darys, Ameesa ? Inquisitor
    Declenn, Nial ? Grand Admiral ? Dark Side Adept
    Drayneen ? Inquisitor
    Droga, Jeng ? Emperor's Hand
    Fass, Baddon ? Emperor's Dark Jedi
    Gepta, Rokur ? Sorcerer of Tund; Dark Side Adept
    Goir, Vill ? Emperor's Dark Jedi
    Gorc ? dark Jedi; "Brother of the Sith"
    Greejatus, Janus ? Dark Side Adept
    Gthull, Kvag ? Emperor's Dark Jedi
    Hethrir, Lord ? Procurator of Justice ? dark Jedi
    Ismaren, Roganda ? Emperor's Hand
    Jade, Mara ? Emperor's Hand
    Jax, Carnor ? Sovereign Protector
    Jedgar ? High Prophet of the Dark Side; dark Jedi Knight
    Jerec ? Inquisitor; dark Jedi Knight
    Kadann ? Supreme Prophet of the Dark Side; dark Jedi Master
    Katth, Zasm ? Emperor's Dark Jedi
    Kogo, Vess ? Emperor's Hand
    Korrot, Del ? Jedi hunter
    Lyn, Arden ? Emperor's Hand; Follower of Palawa
    Maw ? dark Jedi
    Mordi, Krdys ? Emperor's Dark Jedi
    Nefta ? Dark Side Adept
    Nist, Xecr ? Military Executor ? Emperor's Dark Jedi; Dark Side Adept
    Pic ? dark Jedi; "Brother of the Sith"
    Quest, Sarcev ? Emperor's Hand; Dark Side Adept
    Redge, Loam ? Inquisitor
    Tedryn-Sha ? Emperor's Dark Jedi; Dark Side Adept
    Thimram, Savuud ? Dark Side Adept
    T'iaz ? Dark Side Adept
    Torbin, Laddinare, Lord ? Grand Inquisitor
    Tremayne ? High Inquisitor; dark Jedi Knight; Dark Side Adept
    Sa-Di ? Dark Side Adept
    Sariss ? dark Jedi
    Sedriss ? Military Executor ? Emperor's Dark Jedi
    Skywalker, Tan Anakin (Darth Vader) ? Dark Lord of the Sith,;dark Jedi Knight
    Solusar, Kam ? Emperor's Dark Jedi
    Stele, Tan Maarek ? General ? Emperor's Hand; Emperor's Reach, Secret Order of the Emperor
    Vialco ? Inquisitor
    Yun ? dark Jedi

    Additionally, you have the Sentinels, the Sovereign Protectors, and the Darktroopers. Plus folks like Durrei, Vost Tyne, and Quarmall (all dark Jedi, I believe), whom I can't remember if they served the Emperor, or were just random dark siders (like Halagad Ventor).

    You may notice that I used the terms "dark Jedi", "Emperor's Dark Jedi", and "dark Jedi (Master, Knight)". I did that to separate the three kinds; the first are people trained as Jedi in the dark side (Jerec's cohort, Jaalib Brandl, Azrakel), the second are Dark Side Adepts promoted upward, or other folks seen in Dark Empire II (Sedriss and his cohort), and the third are literally Jedi who fell to the dark side (Anakin Skywalker/Darth Vader, Tremayne, Jerec, Kadann, et al.).

    Plus, you have some Prophets of the Dark Side who may just be the ersatz ones set up by Isard, or might have genuine Prophet counterparts. These would be Gornash, Defeen, and Miralli. and the other "Prophetess" mentioned in the Decipher CCG. I didn't include Brakiss because he never served the Emperor; he was trained by agents of the Inquisitorius after the Emperor's death.
     
  2. Valiento

    Valiento Jedi Knight star 7

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    I was looking into this, "Dark Jedi" is always proper no matter who it came from, or what era it applied to. Dark Jedi is the proper version. Even Timothy Zahn used "Dark Jedi" whenever describing Dark Jedi. Some authors have been known to write it dark jedi, with no caps for either word, but that has no difference in meaning from what was is the proper form that applies to any kind of Dark Jedi, and most likely was a typographical issue instead, as the they way they used dark jedi was the same way that other authors used Dark Jedi. Encyclopedia, and guide to star wars points this out.

    So generally any differences seen in the books is most likely cosmetic rather than having any difference in meaning.
     
  3. Thief

    Thief Jedi Grand Master star 2

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    Valiento, did you miss the part where I said "personally, I always preferred"? I'm pretty sure I started the post by writing that.

    I never said I wrote "Jedi" with a lower case "j", I said I prefer to write "dark Jedi" with a lower case "d", to distinguish one type of "Dark Jedi" from another. It's a personal preference. I frankly don't care how it's usually written in official publications, because I write differently than they do. I also write "lightsabre" and "the Baron d'Asta".

    I might add that "Dark Side Adept" and "Dark Side" are spelt with capital letters in the DESB. I cheerfully ignore that, too, and spell them with lower case letters.

    Anyway, on the original topic:

    Inquisitor Loam Redge was mentioned in passing in J. D. Wiker's article "Who's Who in Star Wars Galaxies", in Insider #65.

    Sim Aloo and Janus Greejatus are characters from the Decipher CCG, who accompanied the Emperor aboard the second Death Star. The DSSB has a picture of them and says they're dark side adepts.

    Gwellib Ap-Llewf and Savuud Thimram are from Dark Empire, but they were first named in DESB.

    And mechu-duru is, according to Gamer #5, an "obscure Sith discipline" that entails "mechanical manipulation using the Force". It's related to how Irek Ismaren was able to exert control over the Eye of Palpatine and R2-D2.
     
  4. Valiento

    Valiento Jedi Knight star 7

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    Valiento, did you miss the part where I said "personally, I always preferred"? I'm pretty sure I started the post by writing that.

    "I never said I wrote "Jedi" with a lower case "j", I said I prefer to write "dark Jedi" with a lower case "d", to distinguish one type of "Dark Jedi" from another. It's a personal preference. I frankly don't care how it's usually written in official publications, because I write differently than they do. I also write "lightsabre" and "the Baron d'Asta".

    I might add that "Dark Side Adept" and "Dark Side" are spelt with capital letters in the DESB. I cheerfully ignore that, too, and spell them with lower case letters."


    Well as long as we have that clarified that to the people who may not understand that. Thanks for the heads up.

    "And mechu-duru is, according to Gamer #5, an "obscure Sith discipline" that entails "mechanical manipulation using the Force". It's related to how Irek Ismaren was able to exert control over the Eye of Palpatine and R2-D2."


    It also allows for bio-mechanical constructs as well. Which could lead into how Irek became a bio-mechanical dark side construct in NJO.
     
  5. Esplin9466

    Esplin9466 Jedi Master star 4

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    Thanks for all those new names, Thief. I have a couple of questions about them, though. Were Azrakel, Joruus C'baoth, Rokur Gepta, and Del Korrot really Imperial Darksiders during Palpatine's reign? Was Carnor Jax really a Sovereign Protector? And was Vialco really an Inquisitor?
     
  6. JoinTheSchwarz

    JoinTheSchwarz Former Head Admin star 9 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Rokur Gepta and Del Korrot worked for Palpatine, but they were not part of the "secret order". They were freelancers, as to speak. Azrakel was just Kadann's experiment. And about C'Baoth, well, he was the guardian of Mt. Tantiss and thus an Imperial Darksider if we believe he was delusional when he spoke about having killed the former guardian.
     
  7. Terranix

    Terranix Jedi Youngling star 3

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    Is Hethrir up there?

    I would have preferred it if they'd used the term Dark Knight rather than Dark Jedi (Also Dark Master, but not Dark Padawan. Dark Apprentice.). It just sounds better.
     
  8. Xenomaniac

    Xenomaniac Jedi Grand Master star 2

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    which sources did:

    Miralli
    Laddinare Torbin


    come from?

     
  9. Mateo

    Mateo Jedi Padawan star 4

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    There's a named Dark Jedi in EE named T'iaz basically just a replacement for all of the Dark Jedi killed in DE2 and EE,theres also another unamed one in EE that gets captured on Palpatines shuttle,i wonder if Luke ever took palpatines Sith Oracle Stone and had it destroyed or studied it.
     
  10. Esplin9466

    Esplin9466 Jedi Master star 4

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    Force-users of the Galactic Empire, Version 5.0--3/5/03

    Aloo, Sim: Dark Side Adept
    Ap-Llewf, Gwellib: Dark Side Adept
    Argor: Lesser Prophet of the Secret Order
    Boc the Crude: Dark Jedi
    Brandl, Adalric Cessius: Dark Jedi Knight; Inquisitor
    Blackhole: Emperor's Hand; former Prophet of the Dark Side
    C'baoth, Joruus: Dark Jedi Master
    Constable of Homunculi: Dark Side Adept
    Darys, Ameesa: Inquisitor; Dark Jedi (?)
    Declann, Nial: Dark Side Adept
    Drayneen: Inquisitor; Dark Jedi (?)
    Droga, Jeng: Emperor's Hand
    Fass, Baddon: Dark Jedi of the Dark Side Elite
    Goir, Vill: Dark Jedi of the Dark Side Elite
    Gorc: Dark Jedi; Sith Knight (?)
    Greejatus, Janus: Dark Side Adept
    Gthull, Kvag: Dark Jedi of the Dark Side Elite
    Hethrir: Dark Jedi
    Ismaren, Roganda: Emperor's Hand
    Jade, Mara: Emperor's Hand
    Jax, Carnor: Royal Guard
    Jedgar: High Prophet of the Secret Order; Dark Jedi
    Jerec: Dark Jedi Master, Sith Knight (?)
    Kadann: Supreme Prophet of the Secret Order; Dark Jedi
    Katth, Zasm: Dark Jedi of the Dark Side Elite
    Kogo, Vess: Emperor's Hand
    Lumiya: Emperor's Hand; Dark Lady of the Sith
    Lyn, Arden: Emperor's Hand; Follower of Palawa; Master of Teras Kasi
    Maw: Dark Jedi
    Mordi, Krdys: Dark Jedi of the Dark Side Elite
    Nefta: Dark Side Adept
    Nist, Xecr: Dark Jedi of the Dark Side Elite; Dark Side Adept
    Pic: Dark Jedi; Sith Knight (?)
    Quest, Sarcev: Emperor's Hand; Dark Side Adept
    Redge, Loam: Inquisitor; Dark Jedi (?)
    Tedryn-Sha: Dark Jedi of the Dark Side Elite; Dark Side Adept
    Thimram, Savuud: Dark Side Adept
    T'iaz: Dark Side Adept
    Torbin, Laddinare: Grand Inquisitor; Dark Jedi (?)
    Tremayne: High Inquisitor; Dark Jedi; Dark Side Adept
    Sa-Di: Dark Side Adept
    Sariss: Dark Jedi
    Sedriss: Dark Jedi of the Dark Side Elite
    Solusar, Kam: Dark Jedi of the Dark Side Elite
    Stele, Maarek: Emperor's Hand; Emperor's Reach of the Secret Order
    Vader, Darth: Dark Lord of the Sith; Dark Jedi
    Vialco: Dark Jedi; Inquisitor (?)
    Yun: Dark Jedi
     
  11. Thief

    Thief Jedi Grand Master star 2

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    Azrakel was Kadann's apprentice, sort of his own attempt at creating a Darth Maul for himself. He first appeared in the Dark Side Sourcebook, and was mentioned in Insider's new article on grand admirals.

    Rokur Gepta didn't exactly work for the Emperor, but the Essential Chronology kind of hints that they were on good terms; the Emperor did let him run the Centrality pretty much any way he liked, and even let him use Imperial ships and personnel, so I tend to classify him with the dark side adepts, because he does roughly fit the general category (except for the loyalty thing).

    Del Korrot, I gather, is just a Jedi-hunter who was officially tolerated, until he got annoying.

    Joruus C'baoth.... I believe it's been established that he was "the Emperor's Guardian" on Wayland, and that he's just mentally extremely ill, and doesn't remember that. I gather he manufactured his memories of his battle with "the Guardian".

    Yes, Carnor Jax was really a Sovereign Protector. That's courtesy of "The Emperor's Pawns", in Gamer #5.

    I already listed Lord Hethrir and T'iaz in my version of the list.

    Vialco....

    In "Uhl Eharl Khoehng", he is first described as "Vialco, a dark Jedi assigned to the garrison" (and yes, Valiento, that is copied exactly so from the text -- the letter "d" is lower case in Tales from the New Republic), and then, a second time, as "Vialco, the dark Jedi they would later encounter in the command station".

    I haven't seen the original Adventure Journal #8, but I gather there's a brief biography of him in it, and that it explains that Vialco was trained by High Inquisitor Tremayne, and believed himself to be Tremayne's logical successor. Since the Dark Side Sourcebook explains that you got promoted to High Inquisitor from Inquisitor, I infer that Vialco was an Inquisitor.

    (Incidentally, "Uhl Eharl Khoehng" calls Lord Brandl -- the elder Brandl, High Inquisitor Adalric Cessius Brandl -- a Jedi Master. His son, Jaalib Brandl, later served the Empire as a dark Jedi, in "Betrayal by Knight".)

    Miralli is from the new Insider's article on the grand admirals.

    Lord Torbin was the Emperor's Grand Vizier, in the Star Wars Sourcebook, and mentioned in the Han Solo and the Corporate Sector Sourcebook (the official site's entry on Odumin incorrectly calls him a High Inquisitor). In the old sources, I can't remember any indications that he was a Force-user, but "The Emperor's Pawns" indicates that he literally disarmed Arden Lyn with his lightsabre after she injured Inquisitor Tremayne and killed Inquisitor Ameesa Darys. Considering that Tremayne is himself a dark Jedi, I assume that Lord Torbin has some Force-training, himself.

    Plus, the Dark Side Sourcebook indicates that the Grand Inquisitor is in charge of the Inquisitorius -- including High Inquisitors and Inquisitors -- and oversees their advancement in rank.

    The name "Laddinare" is from HNN, wherein we were introduced to Judicial Department Information Director Laddinare Torbin.

     
  12. Valiento

    Valiento Jedi Knight star 7

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    "(and yes, Valiento, that is copied exactly so from the text -- the letter "d" is lower case in Tales from the New Republic), and then, a second time, as "Vialco, the dark Jedi they would later encounter in the command station".

    As I said before that's probably just a typographical issue rather than meaning anything special(for the record, Vialco's bio in AJ #8 lists him as "Dark Jedi" in caps just like the norm, and the same for Aldaric Brandl as well). Dark Jedi is the standard form but sometimes authors have deviated from the norm, and in that case it's probably a type similer to how authors have forgotten to put caps on proper place names from time to time. But I assume you don't want to get into more of a discussion on this matter, as it does kind of get into the realm of anal nitpicking of the text :p...

    Anywho this post had nothing to do with your preferences just to set the record straight for everyone else the facts surrounding the original text, and continuity way of doing it. What you do for your own preference is none of my business anyways, so I'm not commenting on that anymore.
     
  13. DaJames

    DaJames Jedi Master star 4

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    My personal understanding of this very confusing system would rank the Darksiders of the Classic/Empire era like this :

    - Dark Side Adepts (equivalent to Luke Skywalker of ANH-ESB era, note that some will grow in power past this level yet still be called 'adepts')
    - Dark Jedi (broad classification, ranging in power, but usually your stock-standard darksider, will often be actual Jedi gone bad, includes Master ranking which can reach near-Sith level)
    - Sith Acolytes/Knights (these guys are serious Dark Jedi in power and faith, wannabe Sith)
    - Sith Lords (now you're talking. A Master and an apprentice is a fashionable structure for the organisation, with some acolytes hanging around who wouldn't mind breaking in on the club)

    The other classifications are merely groups of the above.


    The Secret Order tends to attract (IMHO) the weakest Force-users in the Empire, though still devoted utterly to Palpatine, they are messengers and sometime planners, not fighters.

    The Prophets (the real ones) are a group (loyal to Palpatine) that is noted for their prescient abilities. Palpy can't be everywhere at once, so these guys are his fall-back visionaries. Their main job is insight, and they'll take anyone with good psychic abilities no matter what their skills are in other areas or general power level. I imagine they both travel the Empire and spend long periods in meditation, attempting to ferret out trouble spots (such as warlordism, rebellion, etc) before they grow out of proportion. The reason why i think they travel a bit is because their role is well recognised in the higher echelons of the Imperial Command.

    Inquisitors are professional torturers and hunters that probably grew out of original teams hunting Jedi (a job which would have been shared by most if not all of the Imperial Darksiders back in the day). After the Purge ended, Palpy let them continue doing what they loved best as they would be sent into trouble spots as visible signs of Palpy's response.

    Finally, Emperor's Hands. Unlike the others, these tend to range in power level extremes, from the slightly Force-enhanced piloting of Maraak Stele to the Sith level of power demonstrated by Lumiya. They are Palpatine's personal agents, loyal to answerable to him alone. They are not exactly a club, like other groups and fulfill a variety of functions (most of them requiring violence). What they do have in common is subtlety, they are the non-visible people sent in to deal with problems.

    Whoa, that went a little overboard ;) So Val, does my understanding resemble the real thing in any slight way or are you about to rip me to shreds ? :)
     
  14. Valiento

    Valiento Jedi Knight star 7

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    "The Secret Order tends to attract (IMHO) the weakest Force-users in the Empire, though still devoted utterly to Palpatine, they are messengers and sometime planners, not fighters.

    The Prophets (the real ones) are a group (loyal to Palpatine) that is noted for their prescient abilities. Palpy can't be everywhere at once, so these guys are his fall-back visionaries. Their main job is insight, and they'll take anyone with good psychic abilities no matter what their skills are in other areas or general power level. I imagine they both travel the Empire and spend long periods in meditation, attempting to ferret out trouble spots (such as warlordism, rebellion, etc) before they grow out of proportion. The reason why i think they travel a bit is because their role is well recognised in the higher echelons of the Imperial Command."

    I do believe you have the two mixed up.

    The secret order is the prophets of the darkside, one and the same as is stated in NEGTC, and gamer #5. These guys can be pretty powerful depending on the prophet. Maarek Stele is part of this group, as is the real Kadann, and Real Jedger.

    The weak prophets are the false prophet group from GODV. They are imposters that try to look like the real order.

    As for your personal order of things? It's pretty good I guess. I don't think this is something that can really be defined in order really as there are overlaps, and some members of groups that defy the norms, but your basic idea could be useful for someone that wants a basic ordered list.

    One comment though, "wannabe Sith". That seems rather imprecise terminology, I think I prefer "Sith Cultist" instead, the term given in Jude Watson's books. It gives them a bit more validity, but still points out that they are merely a cult and not of the level of the DLOTS.
     
  15. DaJames

    DaJames Jedi Master star 4

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    Thanks for clearing that up, Val. That wasn't nearly as bad as i thought it would be ;)
     
  16. Esplin9466

    Esplin9466 Jedi Master star 4

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    I was looking at the Dark Side Sourcebook today, and I noticed that it says one of the main factors in picking Royal Guards from the stormtroopers is their ability to use the Force. This made me wonder if Kir Kanos and any other Guardsmen who've been named should go on our list.
     
  17. Esplin9466

    Esplin9466 Jedi Master star 4

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    Upped for future reference.


    Force-users of Emperor Palpatine's Galactic Empire, Version 6.0--7/31/03

    Aloo, Sim: Dark Side Adept
    Ap-Llewf, Gwellib: Dark Side Adept
    Argor: Lesser Prophet of the Secret Order
    Boc the Crude: Dark Jedi
    Brandl, Adalric Cessius: Dark Jedi Master; High Inquisitor
    Brandl, Jaalib: Dark Jedi
    Blackhole: Emperor's Hand; former Prophet of the Dark Side
    C'baoth, Joruus: Dark Jedi Master
    Constable of Homunculi: Dark Side Adept
    Darys, Ameesa: Inquisitor; Dark Jedi (?)
    Declann, Nial: Dark Side Adept
    Drayneen: Inquisitor; Dark Jedi (?)
    Droga, Jeng: Emperor's Hand
    Fass, Baddon: Dark Jedi of the Dark Side Elite
    Goir, Vill: Dark Jedi of the Dark Side Elite
    Gorc: Dark Jedi; Sith Knight (?)
    Greejatus, Janus: Dark Side Adept
    Gthull, Kvag: Dark Jedi of the Dark Side Elite
    Hethrir: Dark Jedi
    Ismaren, Roganda: Emperor's Hand
    Jade, Mara: Emperor's Hand
    Jax, Carnor: Dark Lord of the Sith; Sovereign Protector
    Jedgar: High Prophet of the Secret Order; Dark Jedi
    Jerec: Dark Jedi Master; Inquisitor; Sith Knight (?)
    Kadann: Supreme Prophet of the Secret Order; Dark Jedi
    Kanos, Kir: Royal Guard
    Katth, Zasm: Dark Jedi of the Dark Side Elite
    Kogo, Vess: Emperor's Hand
    Lumiya (Shira Ellan Colla Brie): Dark Lady of the Sith; Emperor's Hand
    Lyn, Arden: Emperor's Hand; Follower of Palawa
    Maw: Dark Jedi
    Mordi, Krdys: Dark Jedi of the Dark Side Elite
    Nefta: Dark Side Adept
    Nist, Xecr: Dark Jedi of the Dark Side Elite; Dark Side Adept
    Pic: Dark Jedi; Sith Knight (?)
    Quest, Sarcev: Emperor's Hand; Dark Side Adept
    Redge, Loam: Inquisitor; Dark Jedi (?)
    Sa-Di: Dark Side Adept
    Sariss: Dark Jedi
    Sedriss: Dark Jedi of the Dark Side Elite
    Sidious, Darth (Palpatine): Dark Lord of the Sith
    Solusar, Kam: Dark Jedi of the Dark Side Elite
    Stele, Maarek: Emperor's Hand; Emperor's Reach of the Secret Order
    Tedryn-Sha: Dark Jedi of the Dark Side Elite; Dark Side Adept
    Thimram, Savuud: Dark Side Adept
    T'iaz: Dark Side Adept
    Torbin, Laddinare: Grand Inquisitor; Dark Jedi (?)
    Tremayne: High Inquisitor; Dark Jedi; Dark Side Adept
    Vader, Darth (Anakin Skywalker): Dark Lord of the Sith; Dark Jedi
    Vialco: Dark Jedi; Inquisitor (?)
    Yun: Dark Jedi
     
  18. JansonYellowAces

    JansonYellowAces Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Is it possible that you could list which ones are living as of the NJO? It would be much help to me.
     
  19. Knight1192

    Knight1192 Jedi Knight star 6

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    First, I would add Luke Skywalker to that list as he did serve Palpatine for a while, even if he was learning how to defeat him from within. Second, I'd like to add this on the subject of Dark Side Adepts. From the DE sourcebook, page 65:

    Dark Side Adepts

    At the height of the New Order, long before the Rebellion gained its first victories, Palpatine would vacation on Byss and entertain his circle of intimates. Beings of great intelligence, they had proven their loyalty to their master. Guests at the palace were soon indoctrinated into the ways of the Dark Side.

    Unlike many of the Emperor's other servants, a number of these were aliens. Most of these individuals had already mastered the unique sorceries of their own species, and the Emperor has brought them to Byss as much to study their knowledge as to train them in his.

    While none of them were permitted to advance far compared to Palpatine's own level of power, they did become quite powerful indeed. Some were taught the ways of combat and made into Dark Jedi. Others joined the elite of Imperial functionaries, traversing the galaxy and seeing to the proper enforcement of Palpatine's decrees. Still others were courtiers at the Palace in the new capital on Byss.

    Whatever they do, they enact the Emperor's will and ploicies with his total trust and confidence because their link to him through the Force allows him to always observe them. Before the Emperor's defeat, many had been gathered in the Imperial Ruling Council. It had been planned that eventually these adepts would replace the system of Moffs, Grand Moffs and governors, instituting a Dark Side Theocracy. With his adepts securely in power, they were to participate in experiments on the "Sience of Darkness," feeding on and draining the life essence of the citizenry.
     
  20. Even__Piell

    Even__Piell Jedi Padawan star 4

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    shouldn't darth vader be in there ? he was the emperor's right hand man ya know
     
  21. Esplin9466

    Esplin9466 Jedi Master star 4

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    Is it possible that you could list which ones are living as of the NJO? It would be much help to me.

    If any of these guys aren't alive as of the NJO, we have no knowledge of their deaths:

    Brandl, Adalric Cessius: Dark Jedi Master; High Inquisitor
    Brandl, Jaalib: Dark Jedi
    Blackhole: Emperor's Hand; former Prophet of the Dark Side
    Jade, Mara: Emperor's Hand
    Jedgar: High Prophet of the Secret Order; Dark Jedi
    Kadann: Supreme Prophet of the Secret Order; Dark Jedi
    Kanos, Kir: Royal Guard
    Lumiya (Shira Ellan Colla Brie): Dark Lady of the Sith; Emperor's Hand
    Redge, Loam: Inquisitor
    Solusar, Kam: Dark Jedi of the Dark Side Elite
    Stele, Maarek: Emperor's Hand; Emperor's Reach of the Secret Order
    Tremayne: High Inquisitor; Dark Jedi; Dark Side Adept

    I don't know what happened to these guys, but, based on what they did (Arden Lyn betrayed Palpatine) and where they were (Sim Aloo and Janus Greejatus were aboard the Death Star II), most of them are probably dead, but, having little knowledge about the stories/articles in which they appeared, I cannot say for sure.

    Aloo, Sim: Dark Side Adept
    Ap-Llewf, Gwellib: Dark Side Adept
    Argor: Lesser Prophet of the Secret Order
    Constable of Homunculi: Dark Side Adept
    Drayneen: Inquisitor
    Greejatus, Janus: Dark Side Adept
    Kogo, Vess: Emperor's Hand
    Lyn, Arden: Emperor's Hand; Follower of Palawa
    Quest, Sarcev: Emperor's Hand; Dark Side Adept
    Thimram, Savuud: Dark Side Adept
    T'iaz: Dark Side Adept

    Everyone else on the list is dead.

    First, I would add Luke Skywalker to that list as he did serve Palpatine for a while, even if he was learning how to defeat him from within.

    Good idea.

    Skywalker, Luke: Dark Jedi

    When did Luke become a Jedi Master? Was it after he returned to the light side or while he was dark?

    shouldn't darth vader be in there ? he was the emperor's right hand man ya know

    "Vader, Darth (Anakin Skywalker): Dark Lord of the Sith; Dark Jedi"

    Yeah, he's up there. :)
     
  22. sk8boardbob2

    sk8boardbob2 Jedi Youngling star 1

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    Weren't the DARKTROOPERS THE ROBOT STORMTROOPERS THAT KYLE KATARN DESTROYED?
     
  23. JoruusCbaoth

    JoruusCbaoth Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Just to throw in my .02...

    When doing my research for this thread, I recalled Grand Admiral Makati's dealings with Kadann, and he did kill Kadann before his own death.
     
  24. Matthew Trias

    Matthew Trias Force Ghost star 6

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    Sep 8, 1999
    At least, he thought he killed Kadaan

    Remember, the Prophet from GoDV was a fake. If that was the fake Supreme Prophet that Triclops took to spacestation Scardia, then Makati only killed someone he thought was the real supreme prophet.

    The real Supreme Prophet should still be out there.
     
  25. JansonYellowAces

    JansonYellowAces Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Jun 28, 2002
    Thanks Espline.
     
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