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Luke, Mara, the Force, and Sex in the Expanded Universe (Spoilers Allowed)

Discussion in 'Literature' started by HanSolOKniser3, Jul 14, 2004.

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  1. EH_Pilot

    EH_Pilot Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    I want the Solo twins to fall to the Dark Side...

    So I'll take what I can get :p

    Good theory! :D
     
  2. Asajj_Kenobi

    Asajj_Kenobi Jedi Master star 1

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    EH_Pilot: I want the Solo twins to fall to the Dark Side...

    Jacen will fall under Darth Vergere?s evil spell, but (in my theory) Jaina will not. Do you remember Luke?s little speech to her during her knighting ceremony? Jaina is the Sword of the Jedi and she will never know peace. She will never know peace because it will be her destiny to stop her brother and Vergere?s plans for Sith domination of the galaxy. Due to their twin bond Jaina can sense Jacen and better predict his actions. And only her love for Jacen could bring him back from the darkside.

    AK
     
  3. Jort

    Jort Jedi Padawan star 4

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    And then she will try to rescue Jacen but will get seduced to Jacen and the dark side herself. They kill Vergere and Jacen takes on Jaina as an apprentice and together they are incesteous twins until Luke and Mara come along and kill them. :p
     
  4. academygrad88

    academygrad88 Jedi Master star 5

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    ......and that's the rest of the story. [face_laugh]

    ;)

    Now we just have to get somebody to write that up as a fanfic. McEwok? [face_mischief]

    AG88
     
  5. EH_Pilot

    EH_Pilot Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Hey, I was going to do that, but NO! Incest between the Solo twins in a fan fic is inappropriate!

    :p
     
  6. academygrad88

    academygrad88 Jedi Master star 5

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    Yeah, but somebody can write the story and post it in one of the other fanfic websites that do allow NC-17 tales.

    You would not believe some of the things that are posted in those sites. Recently I read some really erotic Kyp/Jaina fiction. ;)

    [face_laugh]

    AG88
     
  7. EH_Pilot

    EH_Pilot Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    I suppouse PMing it would be ok......

    ....if I could just finish the fic I'm already writing (non-SW).

    It's nice to see I have support for my theory :D :p
     
  8. DarthBoba

    DarthBoba Manager Emeritus star 9 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Nah. Anakin comes back from the dead as a Sith Lord/backup drummer for KISS. He kills his siblings and declares he's Ben's dad.


    repost from earlier-by Assaj Kenobi:

    AK: I was also thinking about what AG88 said about Callista taking over Cray?s body. It got me thinking about Anakin, and whether upon his death, could his spirit have been transferred to another?

    I pondered these matters for a while and came up with a combined theory, which I named A/M - LS = BS

    It starts during Star by Star and ends during The Unifying Force. Let me know if you like it. Please be kind, after all, I am no Matt Stover.

    ~~~~~~
    *****************

    Vong Enemy Worldship near Myrkr:

    Anakin raised the detonator so his brother and sister could see. Thirty seconds. He released the trigger. Take her, Jacen. Kiss Tahiri for me.

    That was Anakin?s last clear and distinct memory from his previous life-- his life as Anakin Solo. He vaguely remembers fighting the many Vong Warriors that finally took his young life and his last desperate nudge with the force that propelled the thermal detonator into the cargo pod full of voxyn tissue.

    And then Anakin Solo was no more.

    Anakin thought he would be frightened to die, but to his surprise he wasn?t. He was calm, at peace and one with the Force. He looked down at his feet and was startled to see his own body lying there.

    There was a bright explosion as the Thermal detonator went off. The Vong warriors shrieked in rage ...then everything went silent.

    ?Anakin.? A voice called from behind. Anakin turned to see a shimmering and translucent young man standing a few feet from him. The man was tall with blond hair and striking blue eyes. He wore the clothing of a Jedi Knight.

    ?Who are you?? Anakin asked hesitantly.

    ?You know who I am.? The man replied, ?You are my namesake.?

    Anakin was not surprised to see his grandfather. His Uncle Luke had often told him of Yoda, Obi-Wan or Anakin Skywalker visiting him after their deaths.

    ?Anakin, ?the man continued, ?this was not your destiny. This is not your time to die.?

    Anakin looked down at his crumpled and badly damaged body. ?It doesn?t look like there is much I can do about that now.? He said sarcastically.

    Anakin?s grandfather smiled sadly. ?Anakin,? he said, ?you will not be allowed to cross over into the Force until your destiny is fulfilled. Stay with your brother and watch over him. He will lead you to your true destiny.? And with that said, the man faded into nothingness, leaving Anakin alone once again.

    ********************

    Lord Shimrra?s personal vessel in orbit near Coruscant:

    Anakin, in his non-corporeal form, watched in amazement as his brother, Jacen, fought Shimrra?s Shamed familiar, Onimi. Anakin realized he was witnessing the most astonishing display of lightside Force power ever seen. At that moment he knew his siblings would survive this war. But Anakin still remained uncertain of his fate. What was his destiny? If he was not allowed to cross over into the Force, would he remain doomed to wander the galaxy as a Force projected apparition?

    He continued to follow his brother hoping that his grandfather?s words were true; That his brother would lead him to his true destiny.

    **********************

    Millennium Falcon:

    ?Where?s Uncle Luke?? Jacen asked.

    Anakin watched as Mara grabbed his brother?s arm and hauled him into the aft cabin space. Anakin followed and saw his Uncle Luke laid out on one of the small sleeping platforms. His uncle had a deep Amphistaff puncture wound in his chest. Anakin could sense that Luke was growing weaker and weaker in the Force. He was dying.

    At that moment Anakin noticed that everything had went quiet. He looked at his family crowding around his dying Uncle. They were not moving. It was as if time had suddenly stopped. Without warning a bright flash filled the room and Anakin saw the ghostly form of his Uncle Luke walk toward him.

    ?Anakin.? Luke said softly, ?It is now time for you to fulfill your destiny.?

    Anakin shook h
     
  9. academygrad88

    academygrad88 Jedi Master star 5

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    What are you trying to say DarthBoba?

    Oh, I get it. We need to combine AK's Vergere/Sith theory with her Lunakin theory and Jort's Luke and Mara killed the J/J incestuous Sith lovers theory.

    That makes a lot of sense. Anakin takes over Luke's body and when he discovers his brother Jacen had not only led his love Tahiri to the darkside, but was using her to breed a super race of Sith/Vong/Human warriors he was enraged and killed his Sith brother.

    Very interesting DB, but shouldn't you be watching the Army/Navy game!!!

    ;)

    AG88
     
  10. DarthBoba

    DarthBoba Manager Emeritus star 9 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    I have better things to do with my time. Like sit on here and disparage Mara.
     
  11. academygrad88

    academygrad88 Jedi Master star 5

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    With an Army 2-8 record, that is probably the better choice. :p

    I have trouble watching it and they are my Alma Mater.

    AG88
     
  12. DarthBoba

    DarthBoba Manager Emeritus star 9 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Bloody West Pointers. :p Only thing they're good for is making idiotic orders and losing football games. :p j/k
     
  13. academygrad88

    academygrad88 Jedi Master star 5

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    ....and making asinine conspiracy theories in the Lit thread.

    And it is all paid for by your tax dollars. Thanks buddy! :p

    AG88
     
  14. DarthBoba

    DarthBoba Manager Emeritus star 9 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    I wonder if the Imperial Army has to pay planetary & galactic taxes...kinda like we have to pay taxes to a state that we don't even live in.

    I also wonder if there's an equivalent of the cartoon strip Pvt. Murphy's Law of the Imperial Army.

    "murphy!! Please don't tell me me I just heard the term "whoops!" and "AT-AT" in the same sentence!"
     
  15. academygrad88

    academygrad88 Jedi Master star 5

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    Great, you killed the thread DB!! :mad:

    AG88
     
  16. DarthBoba

    DarthBoba Manager Emeritus star 9 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    <<Thread-Killer>>

     
  17. academygrad88

    academygrad88 Jedi Master star 5

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    HSOK3: How does your theory work with Force-users experiencing strong emotions such as happiness and love?

    I was thinking about your question some more and I started wondering if the EU Jedi are actually stronger than the Jedi of the PT because of these emotions of love and happiness.

    I mean Luke, Kyp, and Jacen appear to be much stronger than the Jedi in the PT. Luke even walked on Lava in one of the books. I bet that trick would have came in handy for Anakin Skywalker.

    Maybe by forbidding any passion in the lives of the Old Jedi Order they ended up restricting their powers.

    What else could account for the extreme difference in abilities (other than bad writing)? I would think the PT Jedi would be stronger because of their years of training from birth and their thousands of years of experience, but Luke seems to blow them all away with just a few months of training from Yoda and Obi-Wan.

    I would argue it was because he is the son of the Chosen One, but other Jedi trained by Luke also surpassed the Jedi of old. What do you think the reason is for this?

    By the way, I found an interesting story on the web:
    http://slate.msn.com/id/80225#ContinueArticle


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  18. HanSolOKniser3

    HanSolOKniser3 Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    AG88:
    What do you think the reason is for this?

    A while ago, I was driving home, and I made a sudden decision to change lanes and go to a Video store and rent a movie. I checked my rearview mirror and made the change legally. I was going exactly the speed limit. A car who had changed lanes illegally in an intersection and was definately speeding swooped up behind me, had to stop suddenly, then switched lanes and told me to go...uh "love" myself and flipped me the bird while passing me on the right. (I was turning left.) This seriously ticked me off and my adrenaline levels shot way the "H" up. Under your theory of Force-users and adrenaline, any powers I might have would be hyper-accentuated by this. If I was a violent man, and a Force-user, who's to say that I might not have Force-choked that guy and laughed while he crashed his truck and burned up in the resulting explosion.


    If I had done that man violence, canon would suggest that this is what Yoda was talking about when he said that the "Darkside" was easier, and seductive. Vergere might say that what I would have done wouldn't have been of the "Darkside" of the Force per se, but instead of the "Darkside" of myself. Regardless, I do think that in that situation any Force powers that I had would have been amplified.

    On the flipside...

    As you know, I've been married for over a decade now so it's difficult for me to remember how thrilling it is to meet someone new, be attracted to them, get to know them, and experience them physically for the first time. But I do remember that my adrenaline levels went off the charts when my wife and I kissed for the first time. And I'll never forget my wedding day. I was walking on air, and my sense of time stretched and slowed down dramatically when my wife approached me on the porch which overlooked the Pacific Ocean where we got married. If I had been a Force-user, my adrenaline rush would have allowed me to be able to have grabbed my wife, scoop her up and fly straight out over the beautiful blue and green rolling waves, while kissing her passionately in the face of the setting sun.

    So I guess what I'm saying here is that I do agree with you that Force-users of all philosophical persuasions must get a turbo boost from highly-charged emotional situations, and since the NJO allow themselves the freedom to experience the majestic power of love and not be fearful of it, than I think that it is reasonable to assume that their power levels would be at least slightly elevated.

    As I have said before I think that this is a significant philosophical difference between the two Jedi orders.


    Now having said all of that, in the Clone Wars cartoon serial Mace, Yoda, and Anakin all went off and busted a...uh, Force-legume (meaning their power levels were all cranked up). :D So I think that it safe to say that Star Wars's's's' (Where's Homer when you need him) inability to enforce a legitimate sense of true continuity is also definately partly to blame. :rolleyes: But then, that's common knowledge, ain't it?

    I am off the freq! (Freak!) Have a nice day everyone.

    [face_peace] :D [face_monkey]
     
  19. academygrad88

    academygrad88 Jedi Master star 5

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    Ahhhh....Han what a romantic story. [face_love]

    I will always remember the first time I met my husband at the Academy. He hazed me until I broke down and cried. [face_laugh]

    AG88
    [face_devil]
     
  20. DarthBoba

    DarthBoba Manager Emeritus star 9 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    lol, soudns like a charming story..
     
  21. academygrad88

    academygrad88 Jedi Master star 5

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    Don't worry DB I have exacted my revenge for the last 19 years. [face_devil] Today he called me Lord Darth Nagger. [face_laugh]

    AG88
     
  22. DarthBoba

    DarthBoba Manager Emeritus star 9 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    lmao.


    I'd post the joe equivalent of your story, but it isn't family-friendly. :p
     
  23. Dantana Skywalker

    Dantana Skywalker Manager Emeritus star 5 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Recently I read some really erotic Kyp/Jaina fiction. wink

    Hmm. *cough*


    Dana
     
  24. EH_Pilot

    EH_Pilot Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    You know, considering people "become one with the Force" when they die, Shmi could have been impregnated by the non-corporeal form of TRILLIONS of potential males strong in the Force :p

    I've always had an idea in my mind that Revan, from KOTOR, was the Chosen One of that era. So maybe Anakin Skywalker is the son of Revan. :D
     
  25. DarthBoba

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    LOL, perhaps.

    1800!
     
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