The Mandalorian Mandalore (the Planet) Speculation

I don’t know about that timeline - the “mid rim retreat” is a Rebels vs Empire campaign, and it’s been implied that Bo’s rebellion wasn’t in coordination with the Rebels thus far, and another Pre-OT Purge like the Jedi’s would act similarly in excusing why we didn’t see any of them active there.

Plus, since Mandalore was already gearing up for a larger rebellion under Bo at the end of Rebels, I think it would make more sense for them to publicly challenge the Empire in an official war, and get crushed in a situation where the Empire can actually claim something like a casus belli at having their representatives on Mandalore attacked “first,” and respond in a terrifying, intimidating, and overwhelming way that still doesn’t quite cross the line the way blowing up Alderaan does. And as I argued earlier, the Rebllion using Mandalore’s Purge as a strategic justification to it supporters for why it remains committed to subterfuge and limited action when possible would work pretty well.

I figure that Bo assumes control of a Mandalorian Resistance that’s a bit too public sometime after the destruction of the Seventh Fleet, there’s an escalation in hostilities that Bo participates in without the Rebellion either out of pride or disagreements on strategy, and at some point, Bo loses the support of some sects of Mandalorians for various reasons from the mundane and secular (Clans and Houses realizing how outgunned and outnumbered they are) to the religious and superstitious (the COTW rejecting her claim on the Darksaber), leaving them incapable of mounting a solid defense as the Empire annihilates their planet and drives the survivors underground across the Galaxy.

Them being an earlier, “reverse-Alderaan” that stood alone, picked a fight, and died alone feels more like what would fit the story right now. It would also explain why both the COTW and Bo Katan seem tepid at best towards the New Republic.

Any cavern deep enough and ancient enough on the ruins fo Mandalore to contain “holy water” could easily conceal some ancient animals as well…

 

I didn’t realize that the Liberation of Lothal took place the same year as ANH; I always assumed it was still like a year or so earlier. And I just always feel like the more the Rebellion and Mandalorian Resistance are co-belligerents acting at the same time, the more likely you’d see members of the latter integrate into the former after the Empire starts striking back, so Sabine’s loneliness as still the only confirmed Rebel-aligned Mandalorian would imply they weren’t coordinating that much.

I’d probably still prefer the Mandalorian Purge happening before ANH - it would actually add some extra stress and spice to the Rebel council’s panic over the Death Star in RO - but if it too place after that also has s9me delicious implications going forward.

 

You’re recalling Din’s origin as an orphan by a Separatist attack during the Clone Wars, where he was rescued by the Clone Wars-era Death Watch. Now, Gideon apparently got the information on Din from Mandalore’s records around the Purge, so he was already integrated somewhat into Mandalorian society.

 

Not much. We’ve actually seen Concordia, Concord Dawn, Krownest and Mandalore, but not Kalevala. Of the four we’ve seen, Krownest is the only one that isn’t some kind of scoured wasteland… and before the Disney buyout, Kalevala was another desert, and apparently toxic as well.

…It would probably be darkly hilarious if someone made a bad taste joke about Mandalore not being that much worse than the way it and almost every other Mandalorian planet already was.

 

I'm not sure.
There are two relatively plausible scenarios: one is that the Mythosaur is symbolic, not literal. Boba Fett rising to become Mandalore is one interpretation then, as the Mythosaur is (out of universe) tightly tied to him.
The other is literal, and there is at least one line of dialogue in The Mandalorian that would seem to set that up: in the very first episode, as Din is learning to ride the Blurrg, Kuill says "Your ancestors rode the great Mythosaur[...]". That could be a long-game setup for Din actually riding a Mythosaur towards the end of the show.

 

I also feel like there’s a chance we’ll see a Mythsoaur skeleton at some point, and my wildest theory could be that there’s a Covert of survivors on Mandalore in a redesigned version of the old City of Bone from the Marvel comics.

 

Part of me is all "the root word is literally 'Myth'! Of course it's symbolic" while the more rational part of me is all "the root is 'osaur'! Of course it's real and we need to see Din Djarin ride one to the surface of Mandalore while brandishing the Dark Saber and it steps on Moff Gideon as he attempts to flee and it is so tall that Din cuts a Star Destroyer in half while the two gangsta Jawas are seen walking Pelli Motto off screen for a booty call and Grogu holds up the orb of peace from TPM!!!

 

I think a corollary to that is that Kalevala being inhabited, and Satine still having supporters anywhere in the show, will require Mandalorian civilians to reappear in significant numbers... and the interesting thing here is that Filoni has clearly reinforced their existence in the cartoons he made in the Rebels area, so they haven't been entirely ignored thus far; we see civilians caught in the crossfire of the Siege of Mandalore from the resurrected TCW, and Sabine's father is a peaceful artist (voiced by Shang Tsung, mind you, but still a peaceful artist.)

Now... I actually kind of hope that's the case.

The dramatic implications for Din, Bo, and The Armorer alone are fascinating; throw in Sabine or Fenn Rau, and the implications the surviving civilians would have on them is even more fascinating. Neither the Armorer nor Bo are likely to value civilian input - the Armorer would declare them to not be Mandalorians, while Bo revolted against a civilian government and clearly glorifies the militarized past of her people just as much as the Armorer. Sabine and Fenn are liable to both actually consider the civilians their people, even if they see them as less useful to military situations.

And Din probably just doesn't know they exist, has his own issues with his cultural identity right now, but also has respect for civilians.

Imagine if Kalevala is the central location for Mandalorian civilians who either capitulated to the Empire, or evacuated into hidden refugee camps during the Empire's reign before returning; they'd be the logistical apparatus any Lord Mandalore would need for any major action, yet aren't favored by any of the main violent factions.

 

Kalevala, Mortis, Tatooine, Endor, Corvus - there are a lot of on the nose planet names. Kalevala is probably one of the more obscure ones for many in the audience.

 

No, and Elias Lönnrot is absolutely a household name everywhere!

 

Eh, possibly!

Of course, I think it’s the mines specifically that were destroyed, not necessarily every molecule of H20. The Empire nuked the planet, and possibly left behind killer robots to keep killing anything that landed. In theory, there would still likely be caverns somewhere under the surface, which could very well collect moisture. It would just be a matter of getting there.

And that’s the mundane option; the crazy space magic option is a Force cave protected by something.