The Mandalorian Mandalorians (Clans, Tribes, Mercs) in The Mandalorian (Spoilers)

it goes beyond that going by Carl Weather's line. Apparently

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Mandalorians themselves are a rarer sight than their armor these days. Makes me think that the Mandalorians went the way of the Jedi. This could have led them to abandon their political factions and band together in small posses like we see i this series. But yeah, with a Vizsla that sounds like Pre and a horned armorer it seems like they're dropping hints at a Maul/ Death Watch connection

 

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I wonder if they mean it's rare to see them these days as they have motlsy locked themselfs inside mandalore and it's systems or that the empire wiped alot of them so mutch that they are scattered trough the galaxy and has revive themself from extiction.

 

I am also assuming this great purge also has to do with why some of their customs are different than TCW and Rebels

 

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The concept art at the end of the episode has the blacksmith/armorer with a red painted helmet matching her curass in the show.

 

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These Mandos never remove their helmet, huh? I thought The Mando choice of word "religion" is a bit weird in chapter 2 but chapter 3 shows that this particular tribe/coven really has this religious/ritualistic aspect to them which give them a different vibe from TCW/Rebels Mandos. I guess this Great Purge turned the previous Mandalorian culture upside down or something.

 

Unless I'm mistaken this is the first instance of the Mandalorian leader having the title "Manda'lor" (The armorer had that speech including "Those who follow Manda'lor" or something to that effect)

Satine went by Dutchess, Maul never went by a title (just "ruler of Deathwatch) and I don't think we heard anyone from Death Watch refer to Pre Vizsla as such despite his possession of the Dark Saber. Same with Bo-Katan but we didn't see much of her after Rebels, and things aren't looking great for her and the Mandalorians of Mandalore.

 

It’s the first time we have heard it but Pre Vizsla was Mandalore for that short bit

 

What is with all the 'keeping the helmet on' stuff. They did not seem to have a problem going around without during TCW and Rebels.

 

My guess is either Mandalorians since Rebels have reverted even more back to old traditions or it’s a new thing since the Mandalorians or at least this group is hiding

 

It’s pretty much stated in episode 3 that they keep their helmets on because they’re in hiding.

 

Aren't they just easier to spot with their traditional armor on?

 

The title comes from the old EU, but yeah, this is the first time somebody mentioned it on screen I believe. It was mentioned in some canon reference books already though, so its not the fist canonical appearance.

I took it as a religious thing. Because there's so few of them left in the galaxy, they cling to their traditions and beliefs even more now.

It actually reminded me a lot of Islam while I was watching the episode. Like this is a hardcore orthodox Mando group that follows strict interpretation of the old Manda'lor teaching and interpret everything literally. So all Mandalorians have to always wear their helmets, except in privacy. While someone like Sabine from Rebels is a very liberal Mandalorian who doesn't take all that old stuff about always covering your head with a helmet too seriously.

 

I hope they resolve/address the Jango/Boba is not a Mandalorian thing, especially if the show involves Kaminoans as Dr. Pershing is implied to be affiliated with them (I can't imagine a Kaminoan seeing Mando and not bringing up Jango).

 

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Last time we saw the Mandos, they were all united under one banner of Bo Katan, which probably means the Empire wiped them all out.

 

I’m guessing that the greatest insult of this Purge was that the Empire confiscated and melted down all the beskar they could find as part of a cultural genocide, and to make sure the Mandalorians would never be a military force again. Which is why Viszla is so incensed by Mando taking it from Imperials as payment.

I kinda wonder how this history fits in with the Client saying that giving him the beskar was restoring the proper order of things, if the Empire had attempted to destroy the Mandalorians.

Side note - I really need a Clan Ordo namedrop out of this show

 

This makes the most sense. Out of all the political systems in the galaxy, the Mandalorians would have likely posed the most serious military threat to Imperial rule. And so the Empire opted for an all out war on them.

 

There's ton to know about the Mandalorians in the new canon. From the Clone Wars to Rebels to The Mandalorian. But what I'm wondering is that they all hold togehter?

In the Clone Wars, the Mandos are originally presented as peace loving with a criminal element known as Death Watch. Death Watch did kill innocent people and weren't the honorable warriors one would like to believe from the EU. Death Watch did however wear beskar (or so we are led to believe) and they did practice the ancient Mandalorian code of honour, since they did engage in single combat to resolve conflicts and duties.

In the Rebels series we are presented with Mandalorians who are warlike. In Sabine Wren and Fenn Rau we see the typical Mandos of old and not plagued with the pacifism of the Duchess. In this series the Mandos are honorable and noble and do wear beskar, often forged from ancient armour (Sabine).

In the Mandalorian we see a different Mandalorian. They only appear one at a time, don't show their faces and they prize foundlings, which I interpret as the adoptees of the old canon. But aren't any new Mando babies born? Are they only found? The Purge is mentioned twice. What purge is that? Were the Mandos hunted and killed off by the Empire due to Bo-Katan's rule as Mand'alor? And that's why they don't show themselves at all, even their faces, while their predecessors could? Where is the Darksabre at this time? Will it show itself again?

Come on and discuss what you think and share your theories.

 

I think there were three factions of Mandalorians following the devastating Civil War mentioned in TCW

1) New Mandalorians: So appalled by the damaged they caused to themselves, New Mandalorians rallied behind Satine Kryze and the Protectors and pursued neutrality in galactic affairs as well as staunch pacifist policies.
2) Death Watch: a small army of fundamentalist warriors who were willing to push the envelope regarding their honorable ways. Their mission was to topple the New Mandalorian regime.
3) Interlopers: Mandalorians who fled from Mandalore in search of fortune and renown. Following the old ways, but having no desire to topple the government, they become mercenaries .

The Protectors, who were introduced in TCW and by name in Rebels, are sort of a fourth party. They are the best warriors from all of the clans who are selected to protect the Regent (Manda'lor) and enforce their rule. They seem to have become interlopers after the fall of the New Mandalorian regime.

After the fall of the New Mandalorians, Mandalorians seem to have turned more to their political House system, whereas previously they were divided along pacifist and warrior beliefs.

 

I think it is rational that the nature of Mandalorian society very much depends on their own circumstances and the galaxy around them.

During the Civil War there were likely many different groups competed for dominance.

When the New Mandalorians came to power I suspect they demanded any warriors either throw down their arms and join them in creating a prosperous, peaceful society, and any that didn't were grouped together under one banner and exiled to Concordia. Many years passed, and eventually they came to the presumption that the had all died off, so that by the time of TCW they could credibly claim there were no true warriors left. Just the Death Watch which they dismissed as teenagers and radicals.

Pre Viszla ruled over a united Mandalore briefly, but after Maul executed him they splintered again, the most prominent would be the Mauldalorians who ruled over Mandalore itself, and the night owls that resisted them. But the chaos of this new civil war allowed several other clans and houses to go their own way. This included the Protectors, who previous served as a royal guard of sort, and elected to take a more honorable route by helping out the Republic war effort. This is also probably the time period where the titular Mandalorian of this show got adopted into their culture,

Certainly by the end of the war the New Mandalorian basically ceased to exist. They lost the support of the public and anyone left who did sympathize with them would certainly hold their opinions to themselves for fear of being ostracized. When Maul was deposed, and Bo Katan put in power she probably reinstated many of the historical conventions her sister got rid of. Clans probably existed all along, primarily in the immediate family sense. But the return of Houses as independent political factions is one aspect I believe received new emphasis when the dust settled. There is also the return of Beskar armor and a clan colorings to just about every family, even if some chose to take less active roles (Like Sabines father) as long as they supported the warrior class it probably didn't make much of a difference.

This is a very short transition period, but is probably the most logical transition between the warriors of TCW and Rebels, which while not radically different, the later of which certainly had stricter honor codes and a bit more diversity in their ranks.
After the Empire turned its attention to Mandalore Bo Katan was deposed, and Saxon placed in charge. During this time period you either supported the Empire or were marked for death.

Sabine stoked this rebellion, and with the backing of Bo Katan, her clan, and several others they struck at the Empire on their own. They hoped that their revolt would make them strong, but the Empire was not going to let them go without a fight. This is almost certainly where the Great Purge came into effect. The Clans were scattered, and it probably made them far more protective of their culture and heritage. It may have been a quirk of a particular group of Mandalorians initially, but I believe that this is the point where the whole 'never take your helmet off' thing became as strict as it is depicted in the show.

 

When Fennec mentioned in Ep 5 that she heard things didnt go so well on Navarro and that the Mando got off easy, she might be referring to the other Mandalorians. I hope they weren't introduced just to be slaughtered. That'd be a bummer.

 

We’ve seen shots in the trailers of stormtroopers entering the Mando forge, so an attempt at rooting them out likely happens. But we’ll see it.

 

yah the Mando mentions that he hasn't taken his helmet off (with others) since he was a kid, who as we've seen was a kid in the clone wars, and even Death Watch in TCW were taking their helmets off at that same time period, so whoever the tribe is, I would think their no helmet rule extended from the Clone Wars which means they were probably radical traditionalists even by Death Watch standards since they would have been around at the same time.

I'd love for Katee Sackhoff to show up as Bo Katan, take off her helmet, and proceed to chew these folks out for being nutjobs.

 

That line got me worried as well... especially with how quickly this show chews through new characters.

They definitely return this season as there’s footage in ads that haven’t appeared yet, but I’m hoping they become recurring characters and not cannon fodder.


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