Amph Marvel's Loki [Disney+]

My far-fetched theory thus far:

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The TVA exists within a time loop. The future becomes the past eventually. Basically a mobius strip. That's why we see all the weird time-looping-repeating gadgets and the name hint with Agent Mobius. They've seen the timeline play out again and again, across real time. Except when variants show up, which spin off outside the controlled loop, and could, if not dealt with, unravel the infinity loop.

And I almost wonder if the Loki Variant doesn't in some way create the TVA in the past, along with the time keepers, or wants to rule the multiverse.

But we'll see. I doubt it. But speculating is half the fun,

 

Yooooooooooooo... someone with a good spot in the credits.

Spoiler: Variant Identity

Variant Double: Sarah Irwin

Yup, that's a lady. And we know for a fact she's Sophia di Martino's stunt double on the show, sooooooo...

 

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Oh wow. Owen Wilson even breaks it down to Loki. King of Space. But king of the time lines. Even if Loki didn’t create it or runs it - you could be on to something.

I love that Loki thinks the Endgame time travel plot by the avengers was to stop a future plan of his own from succeeding.

 

You’re all breaking my brain with these theories etc.…or maybe it’s the Excel project work?

 

Anyone else watch episode 2 yet?

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Not as out of the box as episode 1. More of a procedural. But it looks like this one sets up the further story for the series.

 

This continues to be the strongest of these shows so far. Really dug episode two.

 

Can’t miss TV. Well done.

 

I would say

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it sets the further story for the MCU because at the end when the Sacred Timeline was bombarded, a MULTIVERSE MADNESS has happened;
I also liked how, slowly, but steadly, the true nature of the TVA was put in check.
Really, WHAT are these people working there? Just creations of the Time Keepers as Mobius said ? And if the Time Keepers were so might why they need these minions? And WHAT exactly these Time Keepers are ? Can they be killed? And what "was real" that C-20 looked so shocked to find out?

Overall i liked this one better 'cause i feel the entire story moved.

 

Fantastic episode. The music is really atmospheric. I have no idea what it all means.

Theories:

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1 of the Timekeepers is revolting and is behind this. Maybe they discovered that the future loops back to the beginning (Classified). Maybe they discovered there is no way to organize the chaos/future into a single sacred timeline.

This giant disk thing has a mobius strip on it. Or a hour-glass. Time cycles back to the start.


Which oddly enough...looks vaguely similar to the mask from the Jim Carry "The Mask" movie, which was created by the god Loki.

 

Can't miss and yet I keep missing it. And it's still just as good!. I still haven't caught up to the shift to Wednesday drops yet. It's like waking up to a mid-week Christmas in July.

"Oh yeah, it's Loki Day!".

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The back and forth between Loki and Mobius swerving philosophical .... yes, thank you. And he wasn't joshin' when he said "particularly dangerous variants" last episode.

Also the score continues to be amazing.

 

really enjoying the show, don’t have a clue as to what’s happening, but I don’t mind one bit lol

 

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That gets me thinking. What we saw looked like Female Loki sowing massive chaos over the entire timeline. But her target seems like it should be the time keepers.

Could it be a two part plan? Female Loki wants to target the Timekeepers themselves but can’t reach them or can’t hurt them where they are. The time keepers must be drawn out where they will be vulnerable. Overwhelming the TVA forces the Timekeepers to become directly involved become vulnerable.

 

I liked this better than the 1st episode.

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I just had a talk with a work friend about this show concerning free will and here Loki and Mobius did the same. Nice.

I think one of the other variants shown was supposed to be Loki as Lance Armstrong.

Could the roller skates be from Dazzler or Blue Streak?

I like that we all agree Loki was just playing sad while he plans to destroy the TVA. And then Mobius throws that in his face this episode.

The aura of ominous suspense was pulled off very well as Loki walked around to face off against himself.

People told me they though the cloaked figure in the first episode looked female and I did not think so. But right before she reveals herself the figure totally looked female.

 

2 thoughts:

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I- As for the people working for TVA: i kinda feel the same vibe with them that the people inside Wanda's Hex ( and were controlled by her) had.
That's why Loki's talk about free will seemed more poignant . Overall people like Clive ( who did not know what a fish was) seem to not realize the absurdity of their actions. Later when C-20 is found and is in shock because something shown to her was "real". This revelation was so shocking to her that she gave up TVA's localization.
All point that there something vary shady about the TVA and its true nature or what they really keep ( wich may not be the integrity of the Sacred Timeline)

II-TVA's location: MCU already has stabilished there's a place where time moves diferent and that the Quantum Realm. Kang The Conqueror, the time traveling villain is supposed to be the main antagonist in Antman and Wasp: Quantumania.
Also in one of the Antman movies was said there were entire civilizations inside the Quantum Realm.
So that's probably were the TVA is located

 

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So by the end of this thing, it's definitely going to be revealed to be a sort of The Wizard of Oz situation. The Time-Keepers are going to be revealed to be either a sham or evil, and we're going to find out that they're either incompetent and not actually doing anything, or that they've been limiting multiversal possibilities for their own gain, whatever that may be. Our main Loki, the newly introduced female Loki/Sylvia, Mobius, and probably some of the other TVA agents that start to see through the sham are going to inevitably lead a sort of uprising and fulfill the first episode's promise of burning the TVA to the ground. This should all really burst open the doors to the multiverse (lead Loki writer Michael Waldron also wrote Sam Raimi's draft of Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness, after Scott Derrickson's departure) and allow for infinite strings of possibilities moving forward without the TVA's interference... and also allow Mobius to freely jet ski in the 90s without getting yelled at by his bosses.

 

About a new character

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Sophia DiMartino

 

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Poor B-15. She’s the only female character I remotely like. Sadly, keeps getting played by Lokis.

Perhaps the female Loki is the Enchantress or is blond to mock Thor. Or neither. Though she is an Enchantress anyway, being a Loki...

Some good theories here...I’m content to sit back and read the spitballs on the wall as it were.

My interest is waning, but I’ll keep watching.

 

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Among the various Earth locations on the screen when Sylvie/Loki breaks the timeline, Asgard, Xandar, Sakaar, Titan, Vormir, Hala, and my personal favorite, Ego, can also be seen listed. God, if this show actually sent them to Ego I'd be the happiest person.

 

Cool to see D+ move their shows to Wednesdays, I kinda like having the shows land mid-week so can spend the weekend on original, new movies so it wouldn't bump up against that in a choice of what to watch. I wonder if that'll apply to currently running Bad Batch. (I'm guessing DisneyPlusStar will continue to drop their shows on Friday like M.O.D.O.K. just cuz). Cool to see Loki's proclamation of "Wednesdays are the new Fridays" is the trickster God reaching out into the real world to change it forcefully!

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Loki really didn't need to ruin Mobius' salad to make his point, didn't he?

 

Right, this was fantastic...

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1) So, everyone's pegging as Lady Loki -- but at least one foreign credits has her as Sylvie, which is Enchantress (Young Avengers version)...

2) The Time Keepers definitely don't exist or aren't as described, right?

3) Locations of the bombs: Vormir, Titan, etc.

https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/9191ec07fbe7cfa23cd6bda44f3948d8.mp4

EDIT: Possible speculation on the FDR High School pen: https://www.gamesradar.com/loki-franklin-d-roosevelt-high-school-pen-molecule-man-owen-reece/