Senate Misogyny, Entitlement, and Pop Culture

Okay, so why was it "worth pointing out" that fangirls also like boobs in metal bras?

I was simply responding to, and agreeing with, Jello's post. I'm not even really sure why this debate got so heated. So they are scaling back on the slave Leia toys. Is this really something to be pissed off about? If so, why? I already said that I'm not personally offended by the outfit; I just think some more variety would be nice. I mean, for kids who are playing with the toys, it would make sense to have a rebel Leia to engage in battle play, a Hoth Leia for another scenario, etc. The most prominent options are Leia in the slave outfit, and Leia in the prisoner outfit. That's all I was saying.

 

I agree more variety would be nice, and especially that kids should have costume options that don't include dressing up like a slave. I don't know who is pissed off that the manufacturer or Disney are scaling back slave Leia toys, but it isn't me. That's just one outfit among several; others should/could definitely see more exposure in the marketplace.

When I said "fangirls also like metal bikinis and boobs" I was thinking of my lady wife. It doesn't need to be important, I was just contributing an alternate viewpoint to a discussion that seemed centered on male enjoyment of the outfit. Some women like it also, was my tiny point amidst all the hub-bub. I'm just glad we avoided a fight, as I deeply respect your opinions, harpua.

 

I'm still waiting for real-size replicas of the TPM handmaiden dresses...

 

... for sale. Time is money, friend!

 

You lot are disgusting. Has anyone even mentioned Leia's Cloud City outfit, which is clearly her best one.

 

Let's just take 'sexy' out of the equation (mild swear):

Spoiler

 

Walmart used to sell a Leia figure that was dressed only in a towel!

 

I have a rare variant of that which is actually Luke.

 

Jello, taking away a toy of a woman wearing a skimpy outfit under public pressure fits the definition of censorship perfectly.
And from a toy perspective, it's like taking out only the Han in carbonite figure.

I don't care one way or the other - I don't collect toys or any other merchandise and I'm not interested in the slave outfit - but if Disney discontinues Slave Leia, the only reason is because Disney is always inclined to take rough edges off of anything because it will appeal to the masses more. No other reason. They're not progressing just because they're so righteous.
And I couldn't call it progress, either - I'd sooner see it as a sign that we're entering another era of comparative primness to set off the previous era of comparative looseness, and it will revert, and happen again, and again.

 

The rare "swaddling outfit" Leia. Complete with a blue-milk-bottle and a lasersword pacifier.

But not really.

 

Lets take a look at the recent figures offered by Hasbro of Leia.

2015
Space Buns Leia and Han Solo mission series 2 pack
Black Series 6" Boushh
Black Series 4" Boushh
Black Series 4" Ceremonial Leia (upcoming)
Black Series Slave Leia in Jabba's Rancor pit set. (Toys R Us Exclusive)

2014
Mission Series Space Buns Leia with Luke Stormtrooper
Saga Legends Endor Leia

2013
Black Series 6" Slave Leia
Vintage Collection 4" Bespin Leia

So that's hardly all Slave Leia. There were two. One in a high priced set and one in the Black Series 6".

 

The business censors itself.

And yes, people did say it was inappropriate, which was what started this whole thing:
http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2015/07/16/inappropriate-princess-leia-action-figure_n_7810128.html

 

It's not a good thing that you think this.

 

sexillillexpialidocious

 

I'd say those people are idiots.

The problem isn't the outfit. If Luke in Bacta Tank nappy was released no one would care. The figure isn't objectifying women, the people thinking women can't wear whatever they want are the problem. Clothes shaming is a thing, right?

 

So some idiot from New Jersey got on the news with this and thus alerted the Privileged White Women With Blogs and Tumblr Feminists who found something new to complain about.

The 6' Black Series is focused on the adult collector, with the appropriate for 4+ on the package as a safety warning saying that that the the minimum age a child should be so it doesn't choke on the small pieces and die. The crappy 5POA figures are for the kiddies and no Slave Leia there. Most collectors of Star Wars merch are male. So Hasbro is appealing to them, or attempting to.

Think whatever you want to think. But when you try and call people creepy and worse for something they think that is not illegal, its way too close to what happened to the gay community for me to ever be ok with it. Thought crime I know.

 

Given who liked my post, I completely retract it and offer an unconditional apology. I clearly did not make my point coherently and for that I am sorry.

 

Yeah.... "privileged white women with blogs and tumblr feminists" is a totally appropriate thing to say in a thread about misogyny entitlement and nerds.

Know your audience, etc...

 

harps. Jesus. Always angry and with an opinion you insist on sharing.

Just be grateful someone is taking the time to explain this. Patiently, too, which is frankly more than the thread deserves.

 

Not just women, not just privileged women, but privileged white women - the very worst kind of privileged women. And they're using the internet to complain about trivial stuff! White women! It's disgusting. And certainly not a trivial thing to be complaining about on the internet. We have to protect the gays from feminism.

 

Uh, I'm not angry... and yes, I will share my opinion. That's kind of the point of threads.

 

Do some people get up in arms over things many others don't? Sure.

Listen carefully (in case I'm not too clear on my intent): I don't believe clothes shaming is appropriate. As a "in betweener feminist" my attitudes are shaped, and I am aware of that, that while it is perfectly fine for women to dress however they wish to, it's a bit head scratching to see how many women are embracing the very idea of dressing "sexy" when earlier feminists were fighting to not be reduced to such.

And while many women are making their own choice, some women are still bombarded with sexual imagery - heck, look at the recent "uproar" over the sexy cop costume for young girls vs cop costume for boys (I'm talking KIDS not adults here), Even adult women were bombarded with sexy choices more than not.

As far as censorship, I don't see it in this instance. No individual is being silenced. The market is responding to pressure - it's the nature of our economic system. If the customer decides a certain product needs to be revised, replaced, or eliminated - so be it. (Nor am I saying public pressure per se should always be the guiding aim).