Mon Mothma (RD Spoilers)

Personally I think it's a travesty that we didn't get to read about her passing until now. She's an OT character, although be it a small one, and in the early days of the EU she was the focus of the NR. Her death not being written is a huge slant against the EU in my opinion. By the way...

Jedi Knight 2: Jedi Outcast spoilers...





She's in JK2, commanding Kyle Katarn on his latest mission after he has forsaken the force. Which he eventually works back towards out of necessity, reclaiming his Jedi heritage. Sound like Jacen Solo anyone?

 

doesnt jedi outcast happen like durring the beginning of the NJO or something like that.

 

JKII is set about 12 years prior to the NJO. So Mon Mothma's only been out of office for a few years.

I've checked SbS. Defender-class SD's aren't mentioned anywhere in there, let alone as the class that the Mon Mothma and her sisters belong to. I think that maybe a Defender-class would be too small to fit the new gravity-well projectors - they already packed as much firepower and shielding as an ISDII into a hull only 65% as big as an ISD, so it's likely that there wasn't enough room for extensive mods.

 

JKII date is actually in dispute, the game gives out two conflicting dates in several places.

The most accurate possibility is that it takes place about 19 aby, 9 years after JK: MOTS. Which is what the page 14. Official site and other places in the manual have just combined events of mots and jk as being the same game. So events would have taken place 8-9 years after mots most likely.

 

repost from here: Oh... so that's what happened to.... RD spoilers...

but my thread kind of stalled, so this one should continue

 

Actually, its impossible to de from old age, old age always leads to soem kinda dieses or malfunction in the body.

 

ya good point. when people die from old age its usually from a heart attack.

 

Outcast better not happen at the beginning of the NJO since that means the treaty is pretty much over.

I'm just going to belive that it occurs about 8-9 years after ROTJ which makes sense with Mon Mothma being in command of Katarn. Though Mothma resigns at the end of CotF, but the Empire is still very much a threat. **Shrugs**.

 

19 aby is before the treaty as I recall. So there is no problem then.

 

Hmmm, I must be going blind. I thought for sure, I saw someone say that JK2 took place right before the NJO which would make the treaty void. But it seems that I am going crazy, so carry on .

Anyone finish it yet? I'm curious if it tells how Mothma dies.

Heh, that would be pretty funny to see her carbonite corpse at the tip of her SD.

 

The only things that would make good on this claim that Jedi Outcast being at the beginning if the NJO would be if we get Yuuzhan Vong to fight in the GAME! Woo Hoo! Imagine that! I think I read somewhere that there may be something like that in the game or something, but don't quote me on that b'cos I'm not entirely sure.

Anyway, this is another example of George Lucas screwing us over and basically pooh-poohing the EU, a practise which unfortunately is becoming more and more prevailant. If Lucasfilm endorse this date, them the Treaty is null and void, much to many people disgust, feeling the post RotJ storylines have been done to death. Both Let's hope they don't contradict themselve anymore.

Anyway, I'm not here to slang Sir George! So long as he doesn't kill it all our charactors and plausable plotlines I don't mind!

As for Mon Mothma, yeah I think she (the ship) and the Elgos Akla (spelt phonetically no dictionary!) are both enhanced and improved ISDII with added Yuuzhan Vong busting weapons and shielding technology including turbolaser stutters and gravity well projectors, much like the Dominator in the Dark Horse comics from years ago.

But to me, a better question would be not when and how did the great Mon Mothma die, but what about this: is the traitorous bitch Viqi Shesh dead yet? And if not, why not? Someone should've popped her a long time ago!
Maybe she'll hook up with Tsavong Lah and have a crude hybrid human/Yuuzhan Vong charactor that'll grow up to become something of a pivotal role, maybe having to fight Ben Skywalker in order to bring long drawn out conflict to end? I dunno', but I'd like to see her killed by the Jedi in some 'Not of the Dark Side' fashion - preferably, Leia seeings as she's the one who seemed to get the worst end of the treacherous senator's attentions...? What do you think? Maybe I'll start new thread about this.

Anyway, long live the Jedi and the Rebels! Just like old times!

Mon Mothmas should be remembered fro her role in saving the galaxy from that lonely Dark Side upstart Palpatine and the subsequent defeat of the Imperials - not the wannabe try hards who came later, but the genueine foes - Thrawn, Daala etc. Also, Admiral Pellaeon should be given a medal. Why? B'cos he saw the futility of it all and knew Mon Mothma's 'Rebels' had won!

Long live Mon Mothma!

Just a little bit of droll!

 

p. 4, Rebel Dream

"Mon Mothma, one of the newest cruisers in the New Republic's fleet, a Star Destroyer refitted[/i] with gravity well generators . . ."

This suggests that she was not built with gravity-well generators in the original design - maybe she was an incomplete or damaged Imperial-class hull that was hurriedly rebuilt with new technology (maybe even one of the Dominator-class ISD variants equipped with Interdictor Cruiser gravity well domes).

Mon Mothma is also referred to on the same page as "a sharply angled triangle in white," which fits with an ISD. So I'd say the ship probably should be classified as an ISD variant, maybe ISD-IV.

 

ya good point

 

As far as I know the book star ships of the galaxy said that Mon Mothma, Eelogs A'Kla, Obi-wan Kenobi and Bail Organa were all Defender Class Star Destroyers. A few peices of info I can think of off the top of may head are:
They are 1050m in length
They Have 40 turbolaser and 40 heavy turbolasers as well as 20 ion cannons they have something like 4-6 squadrons. If you want to find out more I know there has been a discussion already at Jedi Council Forums, and there should be some information in the unoficial encyoclopedia at forcenet.

 

i had no idea they had so much stuff on them

 

The thing is, the NR doesn't make Imp-class SDs. Also, the Defender-class is the same as the Nebula-class (REC) from the BFC. Or it could be a Republic-class (Rendili StarDrives). I know REC builds their ships at Fondor, and since their shipyards were destroyed, they could've moved operations to another shipyard. I don't know about the Republic-class, but Nebula (Defender)-classes are very angular.

Or it could be an entirely new class (doubt it) of star destroyer. It never says what class in SbS or RD, I'm sure of that. Lets ask Denning and Allston if they visit the boards again.

 

i think that it's criminal that the first chief of state of the NR dies in EU limbo... sure, she may not have been a major character in the books, but she was an IMPORTANT character, and deserved at least her own death scene...

hmmph... i'm sulking now...

 

ya. she was one of the OT characters. she should atleast be acknowledged in some way other than having a ship named after her and just a quick little, half sentanced blurb.

 

i had thought that she had died before the hand of thrawn duology (spelling) since i think there is a line in one of the novels about mon mothma being dead already

 

I just liked how Mon Mothma and Hiram Drayson had their little fling pre-Thrawn, producing that new Wraith agent. Nice bit of backstory we didn't know about.

 

Mon mothma is an ISD.. in rebel dream pg 112 "Indeed, there was another Imperial Star Destroyer, in their path, an older model than Mon Mothma;" Notice it says imperial, not just star destroyer. This definetely links the Mon Mothma into the imperial branch of the star destroyers.

 

And I don't remember SOTG saying that the Mon Mothmas were Defenders - just that the lead ship of the Defender-class was the Obi-Wan. The ships were not listed as Defenders in SbS, either. Possibly with all the goodies crammed into the Defender class hull there was no room for gravity well projectors and they had to use ISD hulls for the Mon Mothmas.

And that Wraith wasn't related to Mon Mothma - Drayson had something going with that Alpha Blue exobiologist from the Black Fleet Crisis and Hero's Trial, Dr. Joi Eicroth I think. They were just noting that she had a Chandrilan accent.