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A/V No Bigger Luke Here- Massive Star Wars Video Game - Star Wars Outlaws!

Discussion in 'Literature' started by Charlemagne19, Oct 18, 2017.

  1. AvarandElzarsittininatree

    AvarandElzarsittininatree Jedi Master star 4

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    This is clearly going to be a fetch quest game like most open world games are. Pretty much what I was expecting but those mainly looking for an intriguing story might not be as excited about it.

    Will be interesting to see though how many quests they will have in the game.
     
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  2. MercenaryAce

    MercenaryAce Chosen One star 6

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    Looking interesting. I wonder how well they will actually pull off that dynamism or if it is going to come off like Oblivion where they talked up the ai system a lot only for it to feel fairly artificial. But then again I had plenty of fun with Oblivion anyway, and even despite its wonky combat.

    Fleet junkie that I am, hearing about pirates immediately made me wonder what kind of ships they will be flying. New designs, or will use some of the pirate ships from the tv shows?

    I also wonder if that will be pure space or if there will be boarding actions - probably the former because I imagine they would have bragged about the latter.

    Also seems like in general there will be enemies coming after the player more rather than just statically patrolling like most open world games. That can be annoying, but it does make the game feel more real and alive.
     
  3. AvarandElzarsittininatree

    AvarandElzarsittininatree Jedi Master star 4

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    If they do have characters hunting us down that would become annoying after awhile. Hopefully we can just deal with them once and be done with it.

    Hopefully they fill the world up with in-game books and what not such as what Elder Scrolls has. That's how Elder Scrolls built up it's lore even though it essentially are just fetch quest games as well.
     
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  4. Foreign32567

    Foreign32567 Jedi Master star 4

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    With Hidden Empire #1 showing that not only Zerek Besh, but the Droid Gotra as well are now in top-5 syndicates, seems possible that it will be at least mentioned that ND-5 is the latter's former member.
     
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  5. Jedi Ben

    Jedi Ben Chosen One star 9

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    Enemies coming after the player= you hacked off Faction X, don't do some stuff for a while to let the aggro level go down or pay it off.

    This is unlikely to be a revolutionary game, but it is likely to be a good synthesis of current game systems, with a SW aesthetic, which means it should be a fun time.
     
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  6. MercenaryAce

    MercenaryAce Chosen One star 6

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    Or at least have some way to get them off your back, like paying off whatever faction you injured.

    That would be great! Really make the world feel more alive.

    I imagine there will definitely be some sort of databank system like a lot of star wars games telling you about the stuff you encounter, but some in-universe fiction would go a long way to making the world feel alive.

    There is a shot in the story trailer of a bunch of droids of unknown make shooting - while I suppose there are a lot of those things the droids could be, I do wonder if they might be Droid Gotra.

    Similarly, Black Sun almost feels conspicuous in its absence give they are the second most common reoccurring syndicate after the hutt cartel with a prominent place among the other syndicates featured in the game.

    Well said.
     
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  7. AusStig

    AusStig Force Ghost star 5

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    clonegeek Jedi Knight star 3

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  9. Barriss_Coffee

    Barriss_Coffee Chosen One star 6

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    This is an entirely novel concept. The future of gaming will never be the same.
     
  10. AusStig

    AusStig Force Ghost star 5

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    I do, but they are removing the LICENSES so even a disk is usesless, also the might not sell physical media
     
  11. Foreign32567

    Foreign32567 Jedi Master star 4

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    https://www.gameinformer.com/preview/2024/04/10/exclusive-hands-on-impressions
    Finally, name of the Pyke's current leader. Was hoping for Fife though.
     
  12. MercenaryAce

    MercenaryAce Chosen One star 6

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    That would give a definite answer if these pykes are a redesign or separate sub-group...

    Well, probably good to have a few cartels change leadership. It is not a job you are likely to die of old age doing after all.

    I know I said it before, but man Black Sun feels conspicuous by its absence, especially given this is set the same time as Shadows of the Empire.

    I like that Toshara's capital is small but dense. Cities in open world games can feel rather empty, so sacrificing some space to increase the hustle and bustle works well, especially on some backwater moon like this that probably wouldn't have a very large city anyway.

    I have a feeling I will try stealth most missions then fail and get in shootouts anyway.

    That is most disturbing. Sadly, the way trends work now probably won't be long before other companies do the same.
     
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  13. Foreign32567

    Foreign32567 Jedi Master star 4

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    Maybe it will reappear in DLC, with appropriate title like "Xizor's return". Or maybe he is a true antagonist of the game, acting behind the scenes.
     
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  14. Darth_SHOT

    Darth_SHOT Jedi Grand Master star 3

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    Xizor and Black Sun are almost guaranteed to be a faction on one of the DLCs (Ubisoft is known to make quite large DLC packs, and that would be an obvious selling point).

    Another probable route will be to show, via some kind of flashback, Maul leading Crimson Dawn.

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  15. Jedi Ben

    Jedi Ben Chosen One star 9

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    The Crew was an online-only game, with no offline version, unlike Steep or Riders Republic. The servers for it were switched off thus it's dead game. Doesn't matter if you still technically have it listed in your game library, you boot it up, it tries to connect to servers that aren't there.

    Back to Outlaws and it is surreal how just how much pointless crap is being stirred up around it, as UbiSoft do... what the gaming industry has been doing for years, with a very known pattern of activity. If it's really that big a problem for you? Don't buy it at launch, wait for a sale, it's guaranteed to be in one before long.
     
  16. MercenaryAce

    MercenaryAce Chosen One star 6

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    Hmmm....interesting ideas.

    How big dlcs does Ubisoft do? Think they might include another planet?
     
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  17. Foreign32567

    Foreign32567 Jedi Master star 4

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    Seems like Akiva is going to be Crimson Dawn's main base, since for other planets in the game it is already established which syndicates control them. Maybe in DLC Black Sun will take Akiva for itself, also making a connection with Aftermath.
     
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  18. Jedi Ben

    Jedi Ben Chosen One star 9

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    Possibly planets. Or, more accurately, areas on planets - it'll never be an entire planetary area which some expect. You can have that from procedural generation but it isn't that interesting.

    The DLCs they did for the big open world trilogy of Origins-Odyssey-Valhalla varied from small to medium to massive areas. The idea that you'll see online that it could have all been ready for launch originally doesn't fly when you play them.

    Plus, the world and story is very accommodating of further adventures and locations.
     
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  19. Darth_SHOT

    Darth_SHOT Jedi Grand Master star 3

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    I think a smaller planet could be definitely on the cards for the DLC. If we go with the Assassin's Creed DLC plans as an example, Ubisoft always did a "smaller" DLC with a new area and a "big one" with a huge one (Valhalla was an exception, were they did even bigger DLC's with Ragnarok and what not). I also fully expect a store with items, cosmetics, etc.

    I also don't understand the bad discourse about the game i keep seeing online. The Season Pass, preorder missions and items and so forth, are standard practice in the industry for a decade now (does anyone remember how Bioware sold Javik as DLC for Mass Effect 3, despite the fact that he was already on disc, on day 1?), and even the 130$ price tag is something that's sadly the norm now for all "Ultimate editions".

    The game looks amazing, the gameplay reveal last year was awesome, and if it could turn out in any way like Red Dead Redemption 2 with regards to the immersion with the world(s), could very well be one of the best Star Wars games ever.
     
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  20. Jedi Ben

    Jedi Ben Chosen One star 9

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    Things that UbiSoft deserves flak for that are new:
    • The 3-day "early access" rubbish, every company should get criticised for this.
    • The price of the Gold / Ultimate editions is significantly higher compared to other games from them.
    All the other stuff has been crappy gaming industry standard practice for over a decade.
     
  21. Fredrik Vallestrand

    Fredrik Vallestrand Force Ghost star 7

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    You think we get only small DLC or any big ones like AC Odessy big episodes and Valhalla big DLCs. Black Sun DLC package maybe.
     
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  22. Jedi Ben

    Jedi Ben Chosen One star 9

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    Probably both given UbiSoft's past record on this.
     
  23. Fredrik Vallestrand

    Fredrik Vallestrand Force Ghost star 7

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    Is same with other Ubisoft games, i only played AC.
     
  24. Jedi Ben

    Jedi Ben Chosen One star 9

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    Don't know as I'm mostly AC only, but it's a pretty common pattern to put out a smaller DLC sooner, while working on a bigger one that needs the time. That was done for both Witcher 3 and Final Fantasy XVI.
     
  25. MercenaryAce

    MercenaryAce Chosen One star 6

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    Interesting idea, I could see that work.

    I see. Yeah, more areas for the planets is probably the more logical option, as fun as it would be to include, say, Niamos or Daiyu. Wonder how different the new areas will be from the base ones though, always fun to see star wars planets get some variety in their terrain.

    And also true actually going for a full planet, even a shrunken one, doesn't seem that likely. Does make me wonder how they will create borders - I would assume water, but then there is a shop of the speeder bike going over water, and Tatooine doesn't have any big bodies of water. Maybe the Krayt dragon's job will be to kill players who go out of bounds?
     
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