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Kenobi Obi-Wan Kenobi - Part 4 - Discussion Thread (Spoilers Allowed)

Discussion in 'Star Wars TV- Current and Future Shows' started by Todd the Jedi , Jun 7, 2022.

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Grade the Episode

Poll closed Jun 15, 2022.
  1. 10

    8.1%
  2. 9

    15.2%
  3. 8

    22.8%
  4. 7

    23.4%
  5. 6

    11.2%
  6. 5

    7.1%
  7. 4

    5.6%
  8. 3

    2.0%
  9. 2

    2.0%
  10. 1

    2.5%
  1. Jcuk

    Jcuk Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    To me it just felt as though the episode is there to show that Obi is starting to get his ***t together finally.
    Nothing else of consequence actually happens
     
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  2. Glitterstimm

    Glitterstimm Force Ghost star 5

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    They made a similar mistake in Mando imo, keeping his backstory secret until the end, when having that info could have made all his mysterious-cpyher scenes that came before more interesting. This problem feels endemic in tv after LOST employed flashbacks on an industrial scale. Writers used to understand that characters-with-a-secret work better in movies than tv.
     
  3. Master Jedi Fixxxer

    Master Jedi Fixxxer Force Ghost star 5

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    Completely agree on that.

    This is the KENOBI show. All the people who are complaining about Reva stealing the spotlight from Kenobi (and are so far incorrect), will have a very solid argument if that happens. If this show reveals background, plot twists and character development for Reva all in the last episode, the gravitas of Kenobi and Vader's role in this will obviously be diminished.
     
  4. The Chalk Jedi

    The Chalk Jedi Jedi Master star 4

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    The reliable leaker thinks that Ep 5 will provide Reva's background and also be a very short episode. He also says it's supposed to be one of the best episodes.
     
  5. Master Jedi Fixxxer

    Master Jedi Fixxxer Force Ghost star 5

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    Dude. I don't want to know leaks.
    Fortunately I closed it after I read "the reliable leaker"
     
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  6. Jcuk

    Jcuk Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    For me the main issue with her is knowing about Anakin being Vader..
    And there really is only one way she could’ve learnt that . A ‘way’ which fans have already figured out.
    She witnessed Master Skywalker slaying Jedi and being called Lord Vader by Clone Troopers during the Temple
    massacre. I cannot envisage there being any other way.
    As for the true motivation/intent of her character? It’s not a reveal I’m especially excited for
     
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  7. Pro Scoundrel

    Pro Scoundrel Socially And Emotionally Distant Mod Of New Films star 6 Staff Member Manager

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    I didn't mind it too much with Mando, because he was based on a "Man with no name" archetype. And, the drama of the series was well handled, so that it never felt dull for me when they weren't focusing on backstory.

    With Obi-Wan, I want to be drawn in to the story of the characters more than I am, and the story is much more focused on the plot. So, a short episode like this one feels like development time that's been lost.

    Still enjoyable, but not what I feel it could be.
     
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  8. SateleNovelist11

    SateleNovelist11 Force Ghost star 6

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    I didn't recognize Tera Sinube the first time I watched the fourth episode. But I did the second time. I believe that was because I was so accustomed to him being in animation. However, now we know what was done with the bodies at the Jedi Temple after Operation Knightfall. It sucks.
     
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  9. DarthKreVass

    DarthKreVass Jedi Master star 3

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    It's possible they are preserving these "Jedi" for nefarious reasons.. Cloning experiments that were hinted in BB, Mando, etc.
     
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  10. Jcuk

    Jcuk Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    In my mind the episode could really have done with an extra 15-20 mins of exposition.
    Certainly on Jabiim and with O’Shea Jackson’s character.
    And 100% on the Fort escape which is contrived and poorly executed
     
  11. TCF-1138

    TCF-1138 Anthology/Fan Films/NSA Mod & Ewok Enthusiast star 6 Staff Member Manager

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    "It sucks" as in you don't appreciate the storytelling/world building, or "it sucks" as in 'goddammit, those poor Jedi; this is an awful time for the galaxy'?
     
  12. Master Jedi Fixxxer

    Master Jedi Fixxxer Force Ghost star 5

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    I think this is what they mean, I will wager $0.05 on that :p
    I need to read more about Operation Knightfall. Somehow, it has escaped me.
    I hadn't even heard of the term before I read it here.
     
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  13. SateleNovelist11

    SateleNovelist11 Force Ghost star 6

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    The second one. I'm sad that they died!
     
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  14. Darth Chiznuk

    Darth Chiznuk Bitter Ex-Mod star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    You guys realize that Andrew Stanton only has a co-writer credit and Joby Harold is still credited as the main writer on the final two episodes, right?
     
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  15. Glitterstimm

    Glitterstimm Force Ghost star 5

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    I did that not realize that. Well, it's clear that Harold needed help, so here's hoping Stanton provided it.
     
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  16. Jcuk

    Jcuk Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    No I didn’t know that. Has any light been shined on why it was decided to get Stanton involved with the penultimate episodes?
     
  17. Ender_and_Bean

    Ender_and_Bean Chosen One star 6

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    I thought Stanton did all of episode 6 but split writing with Harold on 5? They might have even agreed to that for the guild since some of the ideas Stanton would be picking up on cams from Harold. There’s weird stuff like that with the writer’s guild.
     
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  18. Jcuk

    Jcuk Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    He sure did. Especially if Ep 4 is anything to go by.
     
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  19. BigAl6ft6

    BigAl6ft6 Force Ghost star 7

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    I was kinda thinking there'd be blatant fan service with "Only one man can break in, Cal Ketis!!".

    Anybody else notice that the key art for Part IV was totally just Vader and spoiled his appearance in the episode? Thanks, Disney plus!
     
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  20. Darth Chiznuk

    Darth Chiznuk Bitter Ex-Mod star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    No they’re both credited for both episodes.
     
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  21. Jedi of Baker Street

    Jedi of Baker Street Jedi Master star 1

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  22. Sproj

    Sproj Jedi Knight star 4

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    I wonder if she might show up in Andor.
     
  23. Ender_and_Bean

    Ender_and_Bean Chosen One star 6

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    I would welcome it and love it.
     
  24. Jcuk

    Jcuk Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    Is it wrong to admit I’m looking forward more to Andor than I am the conclusion of Obi-Wan-Kenobi? Lol
     
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  25. Christopher Blair

    Christopher Blair Jedi Master star 4

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    Me too